This is diabolical | TheaterFire

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Ancient-Composer7789@reddit

That's why you go to a truck stop with DEF pumps for your diesel.

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Crashy1620@reddit

That’s usually what ppl do until the pumps freeze up.

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I've seen truckers have spare DEF bottles that they keep the fluid in during winter months when the DEF pumps freeze. They fill the bottles from a DEF pump that us not frozen. I've had to get anti-gel for the diesel tank in Wyoming.

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MrRiski@reddit

Old truck I drove had an issue for like 6 months were if the gauge went below half the truck immediately thought the tank was completely empty and derated the motor to like 50% power and 55mph. I ran local and learned it did this 3 hours from our shop. They asked me to drive it back because we didn't know the actual issue at the time. I stopped at the first gas station I saw and bought a jug of def and dumped it in to test my theory. Fixed it right up. Refilled it when I got back to the shop and never left without the jug again til they got the truck fixed. Saved me the one day our def pump died at the shop and I was low. Dumped my spare can in and refilled it the next day. 🤷‍♂️

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lord_nuker@reddit

Yeah, but when the pump freeze up, it is frozen solid in your tank as well. At least over here in Europe. My Scania didn't use def when it reached -7 celsius, so in the winter there is about a month where i dont need to fill it at all.

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Crashy1620@reddit

I’ve wondered about that. I haven’t had to deal with a frozen DEF tank on the truck, only frozen pumps.

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DocConstantine@reddit

Exactly, I see a few bitch about pickups in the truck lanes, but I’m not paying 3x’s and dealing with that cheap hose attachment

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SchlomoSheckelburg@reddit

good thing all that super duper environment saving DEF is put in completely wasteful plastic jugs that everybody just throws in the ditch anyways

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Beekatiebee@reddit

Would you rather have some plastic jugs, or acid rain?

DEF was in response to NOx, which was the primary cause of acid rain.

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Plus_Piglet5017@reddit

So explain to me how injecting liquified nitrogen fertilizer (which is exactly what DEF is) into a superheated exhaust system is supposed to reduce the amount of nitrous oxide in said exhaust.

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SkribbyCakes33@reddit

Urea metabolizes N-compounds.

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Plus_Piglet5017@reddit

So nitrogen metabolizes nitrogen compounds? I still don’t understand

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SkribbyCakes33@reddit

No. Urea is a nitrogen compound itself. But yes it assists in breaking down other N-compounds. I’m no chemical engineer but it is produced in the metabolism of all mammals and has been widely researched. It’s also very easy to produce urea via simple chemical reactions. That being considered I would say DEF is criminally expensive.

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Plus_Piglet5017@reddit

Urea is nitrogen fertilizer. We inject it into the soil when planting corn. Ever seen a pile of DEF jugs alongside a field when they’re planting… it’s not for the equipment lol

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SchlomoSheckelburg@reddit

Reducing NOx and getting rid of these wasteful containers can BOTH be done

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Beekatiebee@reddit

I don’t disagree! But the containers are easier to deal with and can be disposed of properly.

And the biggest users of DEF in the US are semis, and for the most part we all get it from the pump.

IMO this is one of those “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good enough” things. Acid rain was a far far more pressing and damaging situation when these laws were implemented.

And a lot of folks in this thread are opposed to DEF entirely, instead of supporting creating alternatives to using plastic jugs. We should just start adding a DEF line to diesel pumps for 4 wheelers, too. If you need to carry some off, get a gas can like you would for regular fuel.

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mmshirley123@reddit

i deleted my cummins and have no regrets. 😂 f the def bs

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FarCryptographer4343@reddit

And f pilot. The worst TS in America.

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jabber1990@reddit

...worse than TA/Petro?

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FarCryptographer4343@reddit

In my opinion, yes.

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jabber1990@reddit

not been to that many have you?

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FarCryptographer4343@reddit

😆 🤣 😂 😹

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potato_farm86@reddit

Whats the best?

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zpass97@reddit

Loves are nice but can be small and crowded

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FarCryptographer4343@reddit

Not sure, but hate Pilot

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CobraWasTaken@reddit

Uhh no. TA/Petro is the worst.

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Lavasioux@reddit

Excited to see what sort of long term health problems and birth defects arise later down the line. Oh boy oh boy!

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errie_tholluxe@reddit

What? The consequences of our actions to try to help ourselves by screwing up and doing exactly the wrong thing? Now when has that ever happened before?

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Moist_Tortoise@reddit

Pfft my great grand pappy smoke 2 boxs cigs every day and lived to a healthy 52 years old 💀

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errie_tholluxe@reddit

Damn beat my grandpappy by 25 years

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Leader_Confident@reddit

Trucks run better and cheaper on a diet anyway

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Extra_Significance81@reddit

Why not reusable? I picked up a discarded jug next to a pump one day, filled it when I filled my tank, and keep it on the truck just in case. I have needed to use it then refilled again at my next fill-up. Never had any problems with this.

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Nickeleye715@reddit

We had a driver do this, but he used some that he got a couple years ago that was almost completely crystalized. Had to replace the DEF system. Then he did it again....

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Extra_Significance81@reddit

I do use and refill mine every few months. Just for this reason.

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AndromedanPrince@reddit

im at a truck stop and its $20 for a 4 piece combo at popeyes. thats diabolical

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Mickey10199@reddit

I stopped at the TA in Florence sc last week. Went into the Popeyes to grab some dinner and just left when I saw the prices. Ridiculous

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AndromedanPrince@reddit

i was at some Petrol in VA that was basically a whole shopping mall. they had a department store n everything

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Naborsx21@reddit

Whites travel center. I love that place

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AndromedanPrince@reddit

yea thats the one! i didnt stop until 9:30 and there was still a few spaces. got to be like 400 spots there

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Naborsx21@reddit

Haha for sure that's my go to spot when I'm up near there. Way in the back there's always parking kinda like Iowa 80. It's a good time.

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AndromedanPrince@reddit

i pulled in head first like a savage 🤣 the staff was awesome. the TA on exit 219 going northbound is also awesome. I ended up at Petrol cuz u cant access the TA southbound.

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Mickey10199@reddit

There’s one like that in Kenly nc. Has a huge food court and everything

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RevCyberTrucker2@reddit

Well, it IS supposed to feed two people, so $10 a head ain't that bad.

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qnod@reddit

I watch for sales and ish and I picked up an 8 piece from Albertsons for $6 the other day but yesterday at Sapp bros it's $3.99/piece

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AndromedanPrince@reddit

i bought air fryer/microwave combo and the butch dont work lol i got the broken out the box one. getting a new one when i get back home. i have steaks n hamburgers just staring at me laughing n shit.

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qnod@reddit

That legit sucks, hopefully you can get it replaced. Sometimes all you get on the road is life's fucksandwiches

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AndromedanPrince@reddit

yea i still got the box gonna return it back to walmart. yup fuck and shit sandwiches is a regular thing lol

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wukillabee2744@reddit

Just bought a Ninja Foodie air fryer. So far it's fucking awesome!!

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Equivalent_Drawing32@reddit

Hell, my buddy air fries his steak. At home. Too easy, he says.

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qnod@reddit

Considering this is a post complaining about the cost of things, I figured the couple times I tried it with steak wouldn't be too applicable. But yes it's super easy, not the best way to have a steak but still pretty great considering it's only 15 minutes in a truck stop parking lot.

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AndromedanPrince@reddit

4 piece for 2 people? i eat that by myself and not a fat ass. even still i can feed 2 ppl at food city for $10. 1lb tenders, 1lb, wedges n 2 biscuits.

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AreGoingBananas@reddit

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago? Vote with your wallet. "It's the economy stupid."

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JimiTrucks1972@reddit

For a jug of piss.

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Frenchie1001@reddit

Real g's turn the def off

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Telo712@reddit (OP)

Or remove it completely like i did with my truck

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Ben325e2@reddit

Any reason you can't re-use the container?

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overboost_t88@reddit

Piss Jugman has entered the chat. "With the mega def piss jug you can go 10,000 miles before you need to leave it filled at a random truck stop in Indiana".

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TellTaleTimeLord@reddit

As a truck driver and Hoosier, this is fact

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Lavasioux@reddit

PeeJug Pete!

https://youtu.be/vqDADXDTuYA?si=LK7c9V4tI2ZivQ1n

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overboost_t88@reddit

Is this Canadian

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GasStationSushi7777@reddit

As a Hoosier and a truck driver this is the truth

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SkribbyCakes33@reddit

But where is the best Hoosier gs sushi?

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JoshHatesFun_@reddit

Speedway

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WackoMcGoose@reddit

Wouldn't the residue cause chemical burns to your "exhaust pipe"? Or are you using a funnel?

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lostthepasswordagain@reddit

I thought it was basically urine anyway?

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theberg512@reddit

Concentrated urine (like when you're severely dehydrated) actually burns a bit, due to the higher concentration of urea. Def is urea and water, so it'll burn, too.

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Crashy1620@reddit

Yes, I took a DEF shower a few weeks ago, I was burning for 2 days, and I showered after about 15mins of getting soaked.

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Fibrosis5O@reddit

Piss Jugman would like a years supply

Gotta pee in bulk

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