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JorgeIronDefcient@reddit

The crew needed to renovate the house would probably have all their shit stolen by junkies by day 2 of their project.

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Used to work in sithole like Gary (chicago heights). One time I parked my van with the side doors maybe 4" from a brickwall. A crackhead still got in there and got the tools. It was actually impressive.

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UkraineMykraine@reddit

In fucking Gary Indiana, and I bet it still needs a shitload of work.

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KITjhn@reddit

Just a little clean up and some wallpaper put up should have it looking spic and span!

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UkraineMykraine@reddit

Holy shit, that's worse than I imagined. Looks like water damage in the ceiling, so a full gut is the minimum unless you like mold.

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ii_zAtoMic@reddit

Definitely should gut it down to the studs. Even then, given that it’s in Gary, Indiana, I bet I could get it done for $200k. Not worth it for the location, but compared to other countries, still a relatively good deal.

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howrunowgoodnyou@reddit

Yeah but jobs there pay 45k or some shiz

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Eledridan@reddit

What if you work remote?

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shibitybwop@reddit

Imagine being able to work from anywhere and choosing gary

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Spice002@reddit

That's what you fail to understand. You get a remote job, but live in a low cost of living place like Garry or Goshen or whatever rural Midwest town you want and even making $80k/yr is going to be comfortable living there.

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CryoToastt@reddit

I don’t think they fail to understand that, it’s just hell living in a place like that. Genuinely.

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RevolutionaryTakesOn@reddit

What's it like to live in a place like that?

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crazycar12321@reddit

Well if you are single the dating pool goes very quick. It also gets awkward when you go to the corner store on any given sunday and see brenda who u dont fw there. Not much interesting to do outside the mall with the same stores youve visited every time youve gone the past 5 years, or the movie theater, or the bars. Depending on where you are at, the nature trails and opportunities can be more or less limited. But thats my experience living in kansas my whole life 🤷🏽‍♂️

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RevolutionaryTakesOn@reddit

So basically there's just no entertainment around town? That doesn't sound too bad for someone who really doesn't care about that type of stuff.

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CrashDummySSB@reddit

It's more like there's plenty of entertainment, if the entertainment is shootings, meth, burglaries, porch piracy (so much for "I'll just order it online-" if you leave that house, they'll break in. And no, the cops won't respond to 911 for a burglary.)

For some Comparison: Gary’s crime rate is higher than 94.5% of U.S. cities.

Your utilities may also be bad- as in, water testing is just not done. They say it's done, but ask anyone- they'll tell you that they can cook the books on water testing results, and in Gary the water is not good.

The Dollar Store is the ONLY store to buy anything, and sometimes shopping online just is not an option.

Also, good luck renovating when the supplies you're stacking outside get picked through by several groups of tweakers per night. And the construction crew may be in on it as well.

There is a total breakdown of social trust in places like that.

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Leftnuttrauma91@reddit

https://youtu.be/Y2Kh1njdXJU?si=AnQ-aUNUZzGioMUR

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formershitpeasant@reddit

It's 40 minutes from downtown Chicago. There's plenty to do.

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CryoToastt@reddit

If you don’t care too care much about… anything a town would typically have to offer

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RevolutionaryTakesOn@reddit

Well yeah my hobbies include watching sports, exercising myself (mostly alone) and playing video games. I'm not that into a vibrant environment and going out or anything.

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CryoToastt@reddit

Honestly, it’s manageable given you aren’t missing out on much. And to be fair, there’s plenty of places with similarly cheap real estate that have a lot to offer. Here in Michigan in just about half the state you can find cheap housing with pretty amazing natural features nearby, inland lakes/state forests/ORV trails.

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formershitpeasant@reddit

It's basically a suburb of Chicago. It's not that bad.

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kippy3267@reddit

The issue with Gary is not that it’s boring, it’s proximity to Chicago would fix that. It’s a long abandoned city filled with an incredible amount of violence

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l3gion666@reddit

Try googling gary indiana crime lol

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CryoToastt@reddit

Very tightly knit groups of quite commonly generationally traumatized people (not necessarily a bad thing, just very much a thing in job/food/social deserts) if you’re lucky your town will have a popular place to congregate for the typical age groups of casual congregation, other than that social life is generally stunted. You’re completely vehicle dependent. If you’re lucky, you will have a food mart, supermarket or barely holding on mom and pop store. At this point it’s usually dollar stores and fast food save for the towns that get enough traffic to justify anything more. To be frank, manageably soul sucking given you have a vehicle.

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RevolutionaryTakesOn@reddit

I guess I'm just not into whatever it is that other places offer. Like I don't really enjoy going out for coffee or for food for the most part. I'm not about the nightlife either. Most of my hobbies are done by myself.

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I_SuplexTrains@reddit

Redditors will say this and then spend 99% of their lives in their shitty apartments in a HCOL area anyway.

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boyproblems_mp3@reddit

HCOL areas actually have shit to do, which is good for long-term satisfaction

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SalmonSwiper@reddit

You act like Gary isn't fucking less than an hour to Chicago

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boyproblems_mp3@reddit

Ah yes, so fun to spend 2 extra hours out of my day in just travel and parking time to go into the city to do something I want to do.

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SalmonSwiper@reddit

Yeah, 2 hours, of the 24 in a day, you're acting like paying substantially less to simply live isn't worth an extra bit of driving a few times a month. I live next to one of the biggest cities in the US and don't pay shit for pretty much anything, meaning I can actually take advantage of living near a city since I'm not spending all of my money on fuckin rent or gas or food

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tukatu0@reddit

Gonna give you a small calculation for what i consider my time on the road to be valuable.

Assuming a minimum wage of $18. 2x or $36. Gas would need around 4 gallons on a fairly economical big sedan. So let's say each is $4.50. That's another $18. So that's $54 a day just for my time and gas alone. I'm not even going to include wear and tear on the car.

Atleast 250 days of that kind of travel. I value that at $13400. I would need to save atleast that much just to accept the alternative of building equity rather than say the career.

Since I am talking about the perspective of earning near minimum wage.

I was going to say more but I already forgot. Well whatever

Theres also more nuance like extreme weather. Which isn't exclusive to the desert regions. Not sure indianna would be one of them unless it's vulnerable to tornadoes.

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boyproblems_mp3@reddit

I live in a decent sized city and pay $1200 for a 2 bedroom and don't drive because I can walk to work and everything else I need. Or bus to downtown just across a river to do the more "downtown" things. That saves me and my partner a HUGE amount of money to no longer have to pay for a second car to maintain, insurance, parking etc. Groceries are expensive anywhere. You get old enough and you get sick of driving home after a late concert. People have different things that are worth it to them.

When I moved back home in 2020 after living in Seattle I was happy because of the lower COL on the other side of the state. Ultimately I chose to move to a bigger city after a couple years because it wasn't THAT much cheaper in my hometown and I was miserable because I had none of the events and activities I loved in Seattle and the small town politics were fucking toxic.

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SalmonSwiper@reddit

Y'know what, fair enough

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I_ONLY_CATCH_DONKEYS@reddit

What do you do in HCOl areas besides go to bars and restaurants.

Psh people just wanna pretend they way more interesting because of where they live.

In my experience people who seek out alternative place to live usually engage more with the community and get out more, not just because it’s way more affordable

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boyproblems_mp3@reddit

Have closer access to stores with more options? Better libraries, parks, museums, restaurants, concerts, culture in general. I've lived in small towns (like drive 30 minutes for groceries) and a bigger city and I like an in-between. The place I live now has concerts by artists I actually like, more to eat than fast food and places to go other than the same bar everyone from high school has drank at since they turned 21.

I don't think having lived in a bigger city makes me "more interesting" but it definitely gave me MUCH easier access to things I personally was interested in.

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I_ONLY_CATCH_DONKEYS@reddit

It’s always the same lmao. Concerts, restaurants and bars. Boring people always gotta go somewhere to have someone else entertain them.

You can literally do all of those things anywhere, the only thing you get from a large city is snobs claiming their restaurants and concerts are significantly better for things that don’t matter.

Every large concert I went to in a major city was lip syncing, I consistently see way better energy at small local concerts with bands and people that actually care about each other. Also the quality isn’t that much worse it really makes you realize that the music industry is just about who you know.

Restaurants are almost never as good as the price increases from being in the city.

I don’t even understand how people differentiate clubs and bars that much, you’re either there to drink or there to dance, what changes so much? Maybe having more people makes it easier to get down but who even cares once you get like 20 people in there.

Maybe you got the museums and parks but everybody I know who lives in boston or nyc hit the museums once and never go back, except for maybe a date. So why not just visit?

I can understand not wanting to live in a exceptionally rural community (30 mins to a grocery store) but i don’t understand why so many people discredit small and medium cities and jump right to the top 10.

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boyproblems_mp3@reddit

Every concert you went to in a big city was lipsyncing? Okay.

I guess if I wanted to sit at home and twiddle my thumbs, I could live anywhere. You are saying that there are not different levels of quality at any establishments (what?) and that people who live in cities never go to museums/aquariums/zoos more than once. What about people with kids?

People aren't snobs for liking different things. I don't have to tell you that Japanese food is better in Seattle than it is in Caldwell, Idaho. I live in a medium sized city. Medium sized cities can also be HCOL these days.

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I_ONLY_CATCH_DONKEYS@reddit

Yes every triple a artist at large concert venues is lip syncing, it’s like they won’t even let them sing without a backing track nowadays.

There’s obviously differences in quality but there so minute and insignificant that they only matter to people trying to seem more cultures, i.e. snobs.

Maybe not in Caldwell, but I bet you get to Bozeman and there’s at least one sushi spot as good as any in Seattle.

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DerpityHerpington@reddit

I will personally pay for your moving costs if it means you move to Gary, Indiana.

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vosinterioiam@reddit

Having gone hcol to lcol, I'd go back any day. Much easier to go the direction I went than it is to go back

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JuicyBeefBiggestBeef@reddit

Having third places to exist in and hang out with people, establish social relations, and generally relax?

Get that shit out of here, I want to live in a dying town surrounded by asphalt where I need to drive 20 minutes at the very least to get anywhere that's remotely relevant to my needs.

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I_ONLY_CATCH_DONKEYS@reddit

There’s no boring places just boring people

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The_Mad_Duck_@reddit

This but live somewhere actually fucking nice for cheap like rural TN, I'm 30 minutes from a city with actual stuff to do

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vegetabloid@reddit

That's what you fail to undesirable. There are much less expensive and more comfortable places to live than the US.

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StrengthfromDeath@reddit

Happiness not important. Just min max your money. Only important aspect in life. Get a couple more jobs with the time you're saving by working remote. Get a japanese pod apartment in a ghost town and save even more money. Gosh golly me, don't have any dependents, sell your car (useless because work remote) stop taking weekends off to hang out with friends (waste of money and time) and now you'll REALLY be winning. You'll have sooo much money bro, it's worth it.

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howrunowgoodnyou@reddit

Have you been to a horrible failing Midwest town before?

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spiritofporn@reddit

What's it like? I'm European and those American small towns all seem so charming.

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UpboatOrNoBoat@reddit

It’s charming until you realize rural America has zero infrastructure. I grew up in a town of 650 people.

The nearest grocery store is over 30 minutes away. No restaurants that aren’t fast food. There’s no movie theaters, sports teams, maybe one or two bars if you’re lucky. A couple gas stations though.

There is no public transit. You have to drive to get anywhere, and drive far. The nearest airport is probably 2.5-3 hours away. The nearest hospital, dentist, eye doctor, even general practitioner is 40-50 miles away. My mom almost died a few times from medical emergencies because the ambulance takes over 30 minutes to get there (type 1 diabetic, low blood sugar in the middle of the night, dad worked night shifts).

It’s okay to live if you’re perfectly healthy, incredibly handy, and work remotely.

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Conch-Republic@reddit

Depressing, high crime rates, a lot of poverty, nothing to do because everything closed when the local industry either left or collapsed. The closest grocery store will be a dump with a broken air conditioner, so you'll have to drive 30 minutes out of your way to hit the Walmart in a neighboring town.

This is why people end up leaving those places. No one wants to live in a city or town that isn't thriving. There are even some small towns that are actually doing well, and cost of living wouldn't be much more than a dump like Gary Indiana.

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howrunowgoodnyou@reddit

Poverty. Addiction. Some bars with boomer alcoholics. Maybe a resale shop of shitty garbage that used to be in old peoples houses. And farm fields. It fucking sucks.

Corporate America shipped all the manufacturing jobs overseas, and nobody can start a new company here and compete with Chinese labor, so it’s just no opportunity and a lot of depressed angry people.

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spiritofporn@reddit

That's just sad. We have a few places like that, the towns where the coal mines used to be, but in the north of the country alternatives were found. Down south it's still offensive pretty bad. But it's a small country, so you're guaranteed a job if you're up for a 1h commute.

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Denvosreynaerde@reddit

Ah a fellow Belgian I see.

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spiritofporn@reddit

I've always compared the Borinage to Mordor.

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Denvosreynaerde@reddit

Can't disagree with that, though there are a few more regions I'd put up for consideration.

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howrunowgoodnyou@reddit

This is basically all of rural America. And there is a lot of it. If you get the opportunity, you should drive across the us sometime.

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spiritofporn@reddit

Been a dream or mine for a long, long time. Fly to Atlanta, rent a truck and drive across as many states as possible in like a month. I've little interest in the very tourist places like NYC or LA, but I'd really like to see the 'real' America. The one that has plenty of superficial similarities to us, but that we don't really understand.

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howrunowgoodnyou@reddit

I think the biggest thing you guys don’t get is the size of it. I wake up at 8am. I drive 80mph for 10 hours, and I’m maybe a state and a half over.

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spiritofporn@reddit

I don't really mean precisely that.

I live in NW Europe, pretty much much the best region to live if you discount the weather. Americans are predominantly white, culturally christian, speak a European language that we all hear our entire lives. So we see an American and think 'hey, their obviously about the same as we are'.

And then you find out they find it normal to be able to fire people without cause, for media outlets to publish the names of suspects in a crime even before conviction, that you can just look up someone's address and which political party they're registered for. Just an example, but there are so many differences that aren't apparent at first glance.

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crazycar12321@reddit

That part. I live in kansas and visiting my dads family in east texas is a 10-12 hour drive, depending on dallas traffic. The type of thing where you have to take a week off work not including the travel days to make it worth the drive.

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MaurerSIG@reddit

Think of it as like Serbia or something, pretty damn shitty, but like it's also okay at the same time?

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Luke22_36@reddit

It's pretty cozy tbh.

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SllortEvac@reddit

Lol this is one of the factors that contributed to my city’s enormous COL increase. Nearly everyone I now know had this exact plan during covid. Lots of them just got called back to the office.

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CaterpillarLoud8071@reddit

I think this is what we don't understand about the US - different parts have basically a different economy, completely different prices and incomes and house prices. That just doesn't happen in European countries. We see a $100k house and think about the $150k jobs in LA, but I guess people in Gary are on a pittance and a house in LA costs millions.

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Everestkid@reddit

I mean, it's Gary, isn't Chicago literally right next door? Should be plenty of jobs there.

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vinnymendoza09@reddit

So? I basically get paid that and the mortgage for this would be cheaper than what I pay now. And I'm doing well financially. Would you rather get paid 90k in a city and have to pay over a million for a home plus high COL expenses?

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howrunowgoodnyou@reddit

I think I’d choose some sort of middle ground in a place with nature and outdoor activities. Not Gary fucking Indiana.

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formershitpeasant@reddit

Gary is on lake Michigan and is 40 minutes from downtown Chicago...

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DerpityHerpington@reddit

And it only takes you 10 to get killed in Gary.

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CTizzle-@reddit

There’s a pretty big population of people there that commute to Chicago for this reason. You get the pretty well paying jobs without paying for the COL of the city. Of course, you still live in what is unarguably a decently shitty town, but you get what you pay for.

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OrangeJuiceAlibi@reddit

I swear it's become a meme just.

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Ssyynnxx@reddit

enjoy living in that bro

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TheKnightsWhoSay_heh@reddit

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Ssyynnxx@reddit

no dumbass

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TheKnightsWhoSay_heh@reddit

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k1ll3rM@reddit

That's a high salary in Europe while a house like that, even in this state, would cost 200k minimum

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formershitpeasant@reddit

Still super affordable.

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skiddster3@reddit

I don't know what it's actually like in America (I'm Canadian), but I'm assuming it's similar.

The jobs pay less in smaller cities, but the upside is that everything is also cheaper in these cities, so you actually end up with more money in excess.

I don't remember the numbers, but it was a considerable amount per month. I think it was like 3-400$ more.

Because rent was like 500$ less. Groceries were like 10-20% less. Gas was like 10-20% less.

But to be completely fair, I was using Vancouver as a variable which could be skewing the math.

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ChiBurbNerd@reddit

Yes but then you get the home invasions and burglaries.

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Chreed96@reddit

You fix it up just for the neighbors to steal the copper out of the wires.

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Raesong@reddit

racks hunting rifle

If they want copper that badly I'd be more than happy to give them some.

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Chreed96@reddit

Are you shooting copper rounds? Lead wasn't already expensive enough?

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DerpityHerpington@reddit

Lead bullets still have copper jackets.

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Raesong@reddit

Well, technically I'm using brass casings, so close enough?

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dfcool@reddit

Cave Johnson's ad about shooting whole bullets finally come true

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WeathermanDan@reddit

You could do a full gut rehab for $100k? Where do you source your migrant workforce from

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ii_zAtoMic@reddit

Typically Central America

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Confident-Aerie4427@reddit

in my country with 200k you can easily buy a duplex apartment in front of the sea

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autistic_chihuahua@reddit

Coming from a poor family, I see this as a challenge. My mom bought her 1100sq ft house on 1 acre for 30k. And we had it in good condition in 3 years. I'm building my small house from scratch rn. I'd definitely buy this and fix it up.

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InOChemN3rd@reddit

3 bed 2 bath with the ceiling falling out = mansion

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geofox777@reddit

Rearrange and add and subtract some letters from “mold” and you get “pussy”, I’m down

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pants-pooping-ape@reddit

Factcheck: true

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pants-pooping-ape@reddit

There is a non zero chance that some of thr fungi is black truffle. People love truffle. Qed, black mold is good.

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CaesarsArmpits@reddit

Looks like the place from the kids aren't alright mv

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bowdo@reddit

"...old fashion charm ready to be brought back to life"

Yeah, as landfill.

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ResponsibleStep8725@reddit

It's pretty mych ready to move into, what are they complaining about????

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HumanContinuity@reddit

Hardwood floors! What a steal!

To be honest, I do love the aesthetic of the exterior. Not the close-ass neighboring houses, nor the ghetto vibes they couldn't quite trim out of the peripheral of the exterior photos.

Interior looked like it probably was nice and homey once upon a time. Then the last middle class job in Gary, Indiana dried up 50 years ago and it fell to shit.

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tigertoken1@reddit

Good Lord, you would need to invest like 100k more to get that house into acceptable condition. Also yeah, fuck living in Gary, Indiana. That house is worth more like 50k in my opinion.

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AsbestosDude@reddit

Nah bro it's 1928 that shit is full of asbestos.

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Juliuscesear1990@reddit

Everything in that house will probably be trying to kill them. The paint, flooring, insulation, plumbing and wiring all are the deadliest versions of themselves. Knob and tube/aluminum, lead pipes, asbestos tiles and lead paint.

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qtquazar@reddit

Well, it's Gary, Indiana. A good portion of the population outside the house will be trying to kill you as well.

(68,000 people and 52 murders a year was considered a 'good' year. I live in a city of one million and we had fewer than that.)

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Isneezepepsi@reddit

wtf thats terrible, sounds like Gotham irl

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DerpityHerpington@reddit

Gotham is at least a coin flip whether you can walk home from the convenience store in one piece. Gary is a GTA lobby.

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Tetronamyl@reddit

I live and work construction around Gary, been doing some flip houses like this in the area recently.... Respirators the whole time for asbestos black mold and animal dung... Disgusting but Gary itself is just an abandoned city at this point.

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firewire_9000@reddit

WTF in my country which has 47 million of people we had 336 murders in 2023.

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LordMarcusrax@reddit

PvP is always enabled in Gary.

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pacard@reddit

Shouldn't that self correct at some point once they've all killed each other?

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XDDDSOFUNNEH@reddit

Yeah you're gonna be hearing "Gentlemen, welcome to Pandora..." as soon you walk into that shithole

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Ice_Swallow4u@reddit

Just need to get a good meth cook going in there. The fumes will kill the mold and scare away the asbestos.

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NotTodayGlowies@reddit

Oh it's probably copper, but there's a huge chance it's still knob and tube.

I had a home built in 1915 and had to update all the wiring upstairs because it was still knob and tube, but the wiring was copper.

Also, fuck plaster... fuck horse hair plaster with asbestos. When I had to tear out the walls, I had to hire a company to come in and setup these giant filters and plastic wrap everything. Hindsight, I would've kept living at home and just ripped up everything to the studs and started fresh, but I moved in and fixed / updated as I went along. 5 years and $50K-$60K later, it was finished.

The home wasn't a disaster like the OP, in fact, it had been maintained pretty well, but a 100 year old home requires extensive maintenance and updates for modern living. You're either running around slapping bandaids on everything or you're putting in the work to actually update it... and brother, it's a massive load of work.

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pants-pooping-ape@reddit

I love asbestos.

Makes me feel butterflies in my belly

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JudsonIsDrunk@reddit

buy it, wait 3 months, burn it down

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Snazzle-Frazzle@reddit

Wow, 95k plus what looks to be at least 80k worth of repair and renovations, what a steal

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flyingasian2@reddit

It’s a shame, it looks like it was a nice house but was severely neglected

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snackynorph@reddit

It sold last year for $15,000. Looks like they did the bare minimum of throwing shit away and put it back up for more than 6x they paid for it

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Cubicleism@reddit

Trash removal is shockingly expensive. A handful of buckets of hazardous materials costs $8k to dispose of.

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pants-pooping-ape@reddit

Only if done legally.

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Cubicleism@reddit

Sure. But then organizations like mine come in and then the cost is doubled or more thanks to the contaminated soil and/or water. Turns simple waste disposal into a full on remediation

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pants-pooping-ape@reddit

Yeah, I love that superfine iron has to be disposed of like a toxic waste......or can be sold as a health supplement or mixed into concrete as an admix

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ultraboof@reddit

8k?? How…

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pants-pooping-ape@reddit

Special incinerator, and a shit ton of paperwork and insurance cost

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ICoraxI@reddit

if there's hazardous waste involved like paint it can get really pricey if it's a lot. small quantities cities can take generally for little to no charge but if there was a shit ton of it, you're gonna pay out the ass for hazardous waste removal/drop off

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Best_Upstairs5397@reddit

Finding qualified demolition and disposal companies, probably finding an approved disposal site for the contaminated waste as well. Plus the paperwork. I've observed demolition & disposal ops at the Nevada Test Site, and that $8k might be on the low end.

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RevolutionaryTakesOn@reddit

Just throw it in the lake bro

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pants-pooping-ape@reddit

Throw batteries into thr ocean

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Zachosrias@reddit

With a little elbow grease you can turn this fixer upper from a crack house to a crack home

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pants-pooping-ape@reddit

wholesome

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JudsonIsDrunk@reddit

Someone making a 4chan post and clipping it into a reddit post, just to spike the views on your zillow listing is genius.

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Yuthirin@reddit

Just a quick fixer upper! Only needs $600,000 worth of work! GREAT INVESTMENT BUY NOW PLEASE

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hmahood@reddit

In the uk my neighbours house is genuinely worse than that but is on sale for £475000

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mason3991@reddit

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House with only 30k minimum needed to remodel every single wall plus stairs. Good deal very nice.

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scrumptipus@reddit

I've seen crackdens in fucking Serbia cozier than this

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DEBLANKK@reddit

It has to be haunted right?

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D15c0untMD@reddit

The wallpaper achieved sentience and is trying to break containment

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StormOfFatRichards@reddit

Little bit of paint, some chicken wire, 20 foot fence, private security force, few artillery installations

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The_Magic_Walrus@reddit

For the low low price of $95,000, you too can own the exterior of a home!!!!

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YabbaDabbaDumbass@reddit

Looks like previous owners were cats on meth

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ADGx27@reddit

Holy water damage Batman

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kieranichiban@reddit

There isn’t an ounce of wiring left in that place

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lmay0000@reddit

Nothing like a total refurb in the worst neighborhood

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Wafflemir@reddit

I've lived in way way worse. But then again, I've lived in a tent on a cold beach. With the right friends to help sort it out, this could do very nicely! No problems living here!

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ThatOldAndroid@reddit

Lol just thinking about this person being like "Holy shit so much interest in my property overnight! Definitely moving the price up!"

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WashYourEyesTwice@reddit

To be honest as we speak an average 4chan user has probably requested a tour of the property and then murdered them brutally when they got there.

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Negativecarpets@reddit

But they still photoshopped some fire into the fireplace to make it look cozy.

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bell37@reddit

I love how the sellers decided to set the fireplace in one of those pics. Like a set fireplace is somehow going to sway a buyer whose on the fence about the 300 red flags

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paddycr@reddit

It even comes with a snow shovel to help scrape the lead paint off the walls

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auggs@reddit

I drove through Gary Indiana on a road trip and something set me off about that place. Maybe it was bumper to bumper traffic on a fucking Tuesday at 130 pm or maybe it was stupid fucking name Gary. Idk but I’ve had a personal vendetta against Gary Indiana for like 2 years now. Seriously? Gary?

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sealpox@reddit

Or maybe it’s the fact that every building in the downtown area is abandoned except for the payday loan place, a gas station, and a big portrait of the Jackson 5

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Diezelbub@reddit

not abandoned...a big portrait of the Jackson 5

Some say on a cold night you when the wind blows you can still hear a "ShaMONE" from time to time

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Grabsch@reddit

Here's a great video from CityBeatiful just on the topic of Gary, IN: https://youtu.be/mXpwgg5TxOU?si=ZV5SYQ8yONSgx-o3

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Hexmonkey2020@reddit

It’s a terrible place, it used to have factories and so it got huge, then they left so now there’s no work and tons of people and crime.

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IrreverentRacoon@reddit

I also now hate Gary. Fuck Gary. The audacity of that place.

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idelarosa1@reddit

It’s fucking Gary Indiana, even if it’s in perfect shape you couldn’t pay me to stay there.

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vitringur@reddit

So housing is only unaffordable because everybody wants to live in exactly the same place?

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idelarosa1@reddit

There’s living in a different place. And then there’s living in Gary Indiana. Living in an abandoned shack in the middle of the woods would be better.

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GoodTitrations@reddit

lol even in nice mid-sized US cities homes are way more affordable than people online make them out to be. They may not be brand new 3 story homes but they’re not crack houses, either.

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mybuttisthesun@reddit

Lives in Gary

Gary's a dudes name

Sounds kinda gay

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flagellaVagueness@reddit

The town wasn't named after a dude. The original dude Gary was named after the town.

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PlayerTwoHasDied@reddit

Heating

None

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lallapalalable@reddit

I was gonna ask what the insides looked like, but Gary Indiana is enough said

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baz4k6z@reddit

It looks like a freaking crypt

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Ghostiestboi@reddit

Isn't half of that town abandoned?

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Bernicore@reddit

Nobody notice the place sold for $15k in 2023? This looks like a project someone had to give up on for a reason.

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graphitewolf@reddit

Someone probably spent 50k and a year to start a reno before noticing the foundation or plumbing was completely shit and gave up

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McSlappies@reddit

Or termites, or asbestos, or murderers nearby, or rapists nearby, or just fuck all to do because everything is too far, or other pests

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LEGAL_SKOOMA@reddit

i mean if the interior shots (top comment has a link) are anything to go by, your assessment is spot on

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thatweirdguyted@reddit

Buy a house in the now unincorporated part of the outskirts of old Detroit. You can get a house for $5K.

Of course, there's no water or power going to those areas any more. And no emergency services will respond to those regions since they're no longer part of a tax base. And for a long while, they used to just let them burn when they caught fire because the fire department wouldn't come. But since multiple serial killers were using them to store dismembered corpses to hide their crimes, eventually they just started burning them down intentionally to cut down on the number of places you could dump a body.

Oh and there's no work out there and the drug crime is insane and yadda yadda. It's a starter home.

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KKKEAEMENBLZ@reddit

as a non american, what happened in detroit? what is the old detroit and why did it get like this?

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fenskept1@reddit

Detroit used to be THE center of industry and manufacturing, particularly for Auto back when American companies were the undisputed kings of that particular market. Those jobs ended up moving overseas or disappearing due to rising competition. That created crime and poverty, which resulted in even more people leaving, which resulted in even more crime and poverty. That crime and poverty has made it incredibly difficult to actually make the region recover, particularly because there isn’t really anything there anymore to incentivise people to want to be in Detroit in the first place.

TLDR: It’s the urban equivalent of an economic bubble, it grew unsustainably and collapsed into ruin after the source of that growth disappeared.

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Mashizari@reddit

Combination of multiple things. Vulnerable population on the brink due to worsening job market, combined with banking crisis, predatory banks, and a hard crackdown on people not paying their taxes

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rudolfs001@reddit

No mention of the collapse of the auto industry???

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BobertRosserton@reddit

I feel like industry cities used to be common in general and pointing to the auto industry like it is the biggest reason for detroits failure feels over simplified imo. Not to say you’re wrong about it being a big factor or that you suggested it was the only factor. From what I understand, “white flight” and suburbanization took the only tax revenue remaining from affluent areas and general city officials corruption lead to the slow decline of the city. At this point it feels like a death spiral of poverty, where the prophecy of the city failing fulfills itself because no one wants to move there and every wants to leave.

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JunkqueenOT@reddit

It happened in Pittsburgh even before the auto industry collapsed. When people didn’t want American made steel a lot of companies just up and left.

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Not_That_Magical@reddit

The crackdown caused by an massive increase in property taxes which didn’t align with the actual value of those houses, pushing people out.

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Mesarthim1349@reddit

Plus all those factors open up a wide market for drugs, which in return exacerbate the problems through crime and violence.

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spacemanaut@reddit

Detroit used to be a huge center of industry. Much of the industry left, so much of the population did too. From the 60s to the early 2000s, Detroit lost 60% of its residents. You can imagine how that would lead to poverty and more or less abandoned parts of the city. I've heard it's gradually adjusting and experiencing a bit of a renaissance in some areas, but I'm not sure if that's true.

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SuffolkLion@reddit

How does a government just 'unincorporate' part of its jurisdiction?

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thatweirdguyted@reddit

Detroit exists inside of Wayne County, Michigan. The city has lost roughly 70% of it's peak population, making the outer limits of the city so sparsely populated that it's on par with rural population density.

The city no longer has the staff, resources, or tax base to maintain the region as they once did, so they officially receded the borders of the city limits, drawing closer to the core and redistricting themselves into a more manageable space.

The outlying boroughs, having long since been abandoned for all intents and purposes became rezoned into what they were before Detroit had the auto boom: an unincorporated "rural" area of Wayne County with no active plans for service or development.

The people who still inhabit this region have to truck in their own fuel, water, food, etc. They live like how survivalists live, with a dose of RoboCop/Judge Dredd dystopia. Except of course that there is no RoboCop or Judge Dredd. They defend their property with guns. The known/reported violence rate is high, but it's also understood that there is a lot more than they know about.

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arbiter12@reddit

It will all make sense once I get my fight club going.... you guys have no vision...

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Furisk-@reddit

you're not supposed to talk about that

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paucus62@reddit

Fight Club lifestyle lets goo

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Due_Title_6982@reddit

It's bizarre to me that america just has areas where you just don't get any basic services

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holiday_bandit@reddit

It worked out as an air BNB in Barbarian, house even had cool tunnel system

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vanadous@reddit

It's a finisher home

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canneverrelate@reddit

Actually most Americans do not live in Gary, Indiana

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kiiimfkkk@reddit

ok it might be because i’m european so i don’t understand many things about the us, but whats wrong with gary in indiana? i just checked it on a map and tbh it doesn’t look that bad – it’s near chicago, there’s an airport in gary, close to the michigan lake, there are stores etc. why so many people make fun of this city? 😭

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capsulegamedev@reddit

2100 square feet ain't no damn mansion.

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mc_md@reddit

Also, 2000 square feet is not a mansion lmao

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original_dick_kickem@reddit

Oh boy, Gary Indiana! Who wouldnt want to live there?

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autistic_chihuahua@reddit

Coming from a poor family, I see this as a challenge. My mom bought her 1100sq ft house on 1 acre for 30k. And we had it in good condition in 3 years. I'm building my small house from scratch rn. I'd definitely buy this and fix it up.

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DragonkinPotifer@reddit

-Gary Indiana -Brick patchwork so will eventually need to update more - guarantee it’s over 100 years old meaning potential for radon and asbestos - electric wiring probably shit There’s always a reason

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RedsInABox@reddit

Gary, Indiana also is the home of most of Chicago's trash.

The town smells like shit and garbage. I've drove through there once and will never do it again.

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NotTodayGlowies@reddit

Radon has nothing to do with age and everything to do with bedrock and deposits underground. Some areas are more prone to it than others. Even modern homes and subdivisions can and are built on top of areas with radon. Mitigation is fairly simple and actually not that expensive in the grand scheme of things (under $5K).

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NietJulian@reddit

Radon can also escape from construction materials used for the house.

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pants-pooping-ape@reddit

Basically fans

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PaintThinnerSparky@reddit

Ever seen the movie "moneypit"?

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DragonkinPotifer@reddit

No elaborate

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PaintThinnerSparky@reddit

A movie where a couple buys a house and every single thing is wrong with it. They fix one thing, and find more broken shit as they are fixing it up. Basically irl buying a house but filmed

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DragonkinPotifer@reddit

Sounds kino

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PaintThinnerSparky@reddit

Like the cod zombies map?

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DragonkinPotifer@reddit

I never got into cod due to having strict parents

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DragonkinPotifer@reddit

Thank you

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ClassicHat@reddit

Shitty electric work is a pro, just get good insurance, wait a bit for the inevitable to happen, and bam it’s payday without having to lift a finger renovating anything

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Scaredsparrow@reddit

Looks like a burn down at first glance

Upon further zillow inspection she is definetly a burn down.

Burn it down, build anew. You are paying 100k for a lot and utility hookups.

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CaloricDumbellIntake@reddit

I don’t think there’s a single spot in Germany where I could get anything comparable to this. Even if there needs to be a ton of work done, this seems like an absolute bargain if you ask me

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TheHandSFX@reddit

Radon isn't related to age, just the natural material that lays underneath the house.

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arbiter12@reddit

There’s always a reason

this.

It used to be that "motivated seller" was a thing when housing wasn't such a big issue and people liked to move around when their lives changed.

Nowadays, the price for real estate is as fixed as the market price of gold. You can't buy gold for 25% cheaper "somewhere else". If you could, it would be instantly swallowed up and resold at market price for a profit.

Real estate is not that instantaneous, but flipping can be done pretty quickly with some preparation, and professional investors buy properties in bulk, by the dozen.

By the time you see a house being posted, it's been passed up by 20 levels of pros.

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Tony_Khantana@reddit

Location matters, you absolutely fucking can buy a similar house somewhere else for a different price. Housing prices can be driven up and down by external factors that aren't the house itself. A house is a house, you pay extra for location and property. Or do you think if you copy pasted this exact house into Los Angeles it would have the same price?

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vaguestory@reddit

fairly easy to understand that location is the most important factor of real estate, i think this is just a bit of miscommunication - "somewhere else" presumably means "from another [less market-savvy] seller" in the sense that there's no proverbial "margin of error" in pricing per area.

the same notion in more accurate terms: everything in real estate is going to be relatively on-point for its price for the location, and if it doesn't seem like it is, it's because there is another reason affecting it not related to location, usually related to level of upkeep or total size of property.

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lmay0000@reddit

Who are you trying to persuade? Everyone in this sub does not want to live in gary IN

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Cheesi_Boi@reddit

British people don't know what mansions look like.

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EquivalentSnap@reddit

How many job are in Gary Indiana plus it looks run down.

The uk does have a housing problem cos of planning permission of every property and lots of legal paperwork slowing down housing. Added to tatcher administration selling council homes

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peezle69@reddit

That house has got some issues.

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8696David@reddit

OK OP, go move to Gary Indiana and report back in a month if you’re still alive. Also please mention if it cost you more than the base price of the house to make it livable after purchase

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Dragoncat99@reddit

My mom got duped into buying a cheap house like this. Turns out it had like 100,000 in liens on it. How tf do you even get that high??

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Gunnilingus@reddit

There’s real truth to this though. Even if you work in a high COL area, in the vast majority of cases you can find affordable housing if you can accept a 30-60 minute commute. There are some exceptions, but not many.

Source: I work in the 18th highest COL city in the US, but bought a house on a 90k salary while supporting a family of 5 because I was willing to accept a 45-minute commute.

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Cuplike@reddit

Minimum wage worker 2 hour regular commute

If the country didn't have shitass infrastructure that ensured cars were a necessity maybe that'd be viable but good luck saving up for anything with modern gas prices

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Gunnilingus@reddit

Bro no one in their right mind commutes hours for a minimum wage job. That is not what I’m suggesting. What I’m saying is that if you can get a decent job in a high COL area, you can probably afford a house if you’re willing to commute.

If the best job you can get is minimum wage, then owning a house probably isn’t for you and never has been. Minimum wage workers have never been in a position to buy a house at any point in history. If you can manage to get a decent job in the trades or service industry however, you have options. Almost anyone can manage that if they have a decent work ethic.

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Cuplike@reddit

First of all your 45 minute commute isn't some grand sacrifice you made that everyone else is too lazy to be willing to bite the bullet on, for a lot of high COL areas the average commute to work is between 35-45 minutes. So yeah there are people making crazy commutes for shitty jobs because

Just have a decent job

The problem is even in a hyphothetical perfect world where everyone gives 110 percent not everyone can get a decent job, There will always be people who have to work the shitty minimum wage jobs

The reason why COL is high in one area and lower is mainly dependent on the job opportunities. If an area has a lower cost of living it's because of a lack of demand for a house within that area and that lack of demand is due to a lack of job opportunities

People go to High COL areas because that's where the jobs are and like I said even in a perfect world some people have to work the shit jobs.

The fact of the matter is there isn't a reason for houses or apartments to be that expensive. It's just people abusing people's needs for housing

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Lonely_Cosmonaut@reddit

Good luck finding a job in that town.

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mememan2995@reddit

2100 Sq ft is a mansion? What world is bro living in?

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coffeekreeper@reddit

In the UK they joke: "Do you know what they call someone who owns an acre of land in the US? A homeowner. You know what they call someone with an acre of land in the UK? A lord."

The UK mind cannot fathom acreage.

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ChickenPijja@reddit

Sorry, Britbong here: I don't understand acres. Can you convert it to how many burgers would fit into an acre, then I can convert into european

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Everestkid@reddit

It's about one five millionth of the size of Wales.

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GoodTitrations@reddit

Don’t lie to us we know you guys use mixed imperial and metric.

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coffeekreeper@reddit

A good conversion is: 1 burger is roughly equal to 1 doner

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mynameis4826@reddit

England

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mememan2995@reddit

So fucking true, that makes total sense. The whole country shares like 6 toilets and 2 urinals.

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Wiggie49@reddit

2 of those urinals are street alleys lol

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The_Nude_Mocracy@reddit

/> Mansion

/>Look inside

/>3 bed 2 bath

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GoodTitrations@reddit

Outside North America they consider this a mansion.

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Bleakjavelinqqwerty@reddit

Man saw an extra 2 bedrooms and a bath and thought that's where Jeff Bezos would live

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Ale4leo@reddit

England

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Rhettledge@reddit

These properties are why contractors hate working on Boomer properties.

"BETTER GRAB MY $10 TOOL SET AND REWIRE MY ENTIRE HOUSE TO 3 OUTLETS. MAYBE I'LL FIX MY CONNECTION TO THE WATER MAIN NEXT"

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Voodoo_Tiki@reddit

100k house with 700k in repairs

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N-Arcanum@reddit

Yeah that’s totally a mansion there

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Kerboviet_Union@reddit

Lmao fucking Gary, great place to get fucking shot, robbed, etc.

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Bo_The_Destroyer@reddit

Considering the renovation work needed. It will be a great buy if you're starting retirement and want a project to work on for a few years. It's honestly not a bad investment

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mynameis4826@reddit

Gary, Indiana

The Britbong mind cannot conceive the horrors of the Midwestern ghost town. Gary is the kind of city that makes Detroit and Chicago feel good about themselves.

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KingOfYourHills@reddit

We absolutely can. Our equivalent is the run down seaside town, once popular tourist destinations for us that were decimated by the rise of cheap air travel and package holidays abroad.

Houses in places like Blackpool are similarly priced to OP and for similar reasons.

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HazelCheese@reddit

I think the rough parts of Birmingham / Liverpool might be the most equivalent. Seaside towns are still quite touristy so they clean up pretty well.

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arbiter12@reddit

I've never been. What's the deal with the place?

Excess of life or lack of life? Or excess of life leading to loss of life?

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mynameis4826@reddit

Essentially, Gary started off as a company town for US Steel. Ever since manufacturing jobs started dying out in the 70s, it's been declining to the point that 60% of its pre 70s population has vacated the area, leaving a lot of abandoned buildings. As a result, the city's remaining population (aka the people too poor or dumb to leave) are basically trapped in a decaying husk of a city, leading to a special sort of criminal nihilism you might see in Frank Miller's Gotham.

Also it's the hometown of the Jackson 5.

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therealjody@reddit

Like a brokedick Sin City, but far more desolate and shitty and polluted than you would initially think.

Imagine a rusting toxic oil tank farm interspersed with patches of ghetto shotgun shacks and abandoned row townhouses and crumbling industrial buildings lapped by a dark oily lake that meets a shore of dead mud.

There is a post-chemical miasma that seems to hang about the place, clinging like depression.

Strangers to the area unwittingly pass by on the interstate and shudder, although they don't know why.

Gary, IN is cursed

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daelindidnowrong@reddit

The first picture shown is a bunch of abandoned buildings, lmao.

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yagirljessi@reddit

It's literally the closest humanity has gotten to creating Gotham city

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idelarosa1@reddit

At least there’s business and high profile crime in Gotham. This isn’t Gotham. It’s the Gotham Slums.

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therealjody@reddit

Absolutely. Gotham City has art, architecture, and culture of a sort. Those pearls hit the street in slo-mo after a night at the theatre, remember?

Gary, IN is a wasteland of toxic slums punctuated by the occasional up-armored gas station. Culture is Gary, IN is a stack of moldy gospel records from the 70s rotting away in a shuttered Goodwill.

Its far more Robocop than Batman, thats for sure.

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2FLY2TRY@reddit

Build some walls and call it Arkham City. At least you'd then have a chance of running into Catwoman

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ultraboof@reddit

You have a way with words

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gbuub@reddit

Looks like the Jackson 5 formed while Gary was still in good shape

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Deanzopolis@reddit

I knew Gary was something of a shit hole today, but apparently there's entire blocks that are completely vacant, somehow this is worse than Detroit

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Ilikethemfatandugly@reddit

Like 35 percent of the city is below the poverty line. It’s pretty hood, I’m from INdiana and have been through it before. Abandoned buildings and the whole place stinks

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coontaillandcruiser@reddit

Blacks

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_LilDuck@reddit

I mean... as i recall Gary is where suddenly dead Chicagoans went

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idelarosa1@reddit

Chicago’s South Side is the Ghetto to Chicago’s Northsiders. Gary is the Ghetto to Chicago’s Southsiders.

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TildeGunderson@reddit

I went on Google Maps to see what Gary IN looked like, and the first image they show - the image to help advertise the sights and skyline - is a boarded up abandoned house.

Mogadishu, Capital city of Somalia and one the most notorious and poor cities in the world, has an aerial shot of an industrial sector.

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Das_Mojo@reddit

I'm from Canada, and my dad was a long haul trucker when I was growing up in the 90s and 00s. I've known about Gary being a shit hole for over 20 years

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OBandB@reddit

Detroit is almost gentrified now. Flint is closer to Gary

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Snoo_63187@reddit

I heard in Cleveland you can buy a house for the price of a VCR. But their river does catch on fire and the city has been under construction since 1868.

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Nikita90876521@reddit

You will be shot and Killed in Gary Indiana before you can unload the Uhaul...

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Loominardy@reddit

But you would have to live in Gary, Indiana

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I_ONLY_CATCH_DONKEYS@reddit

Bro y’all need to get off the internet. There are millions of people around the world living in rural ass towns and having a great ass time.

It’s not the lack of things to do, it’s you, you’re boring.

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I_ONLY_CATCH_DONKEYS@reddit

Redditors when you suggest living somewhere other then a top 10 us city

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

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NotYourKhakis69@reddit

For the low, low price of $100,000, you too can live in Gary, Indiana

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tornado9015@reddit

In a mansion. If you're willing to settle for something more modest, like a 2 or 3 bed middle class sitcom stereotype family home that'll drop down to 70-80k.

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Cubicleism@reddit

3 beds and two baths is not a mansion lmao and there is no universe where a house is $70-$80m

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DeadFuckStick59@reddit

do you know anything about gary indiana? its an utter shithole, dangerous as hell, houses are annihilated/ex trap houses. and are absolutely under 100k for multiple homes with a simple google search.

had a cousin flip houses in watts/compton in california for around 120k-150k and sold em for around 220-240k. Bad areas can get you cheap ass homes with bulletholes

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Cubicleism@reddit

Sorry, I should have specified. When I say you can't get a home for 70-80k, I mean a livable one. You can get some type of structure on a piece for land fairly cheaply, but it costs a lot to do up these buildings properly with the current cost of construction materials.

These buildings have been stripped of anything valuable by junkies and suffered from fires, water damage, and vandalism. It's not cheap to fix

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DeadFuckStick59@reddit

ok yeah thats completely right. you wont get a turn-key home in a safe-ish place for under 120k in the US forsure.

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tornado9015@reddit

How in the fuck did you pass first grade? Don't they usually make sure you can understand at least two whole sentences?

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BarefutR@reddit

You’re high as a fucking kite.

Even in Gary Indiana, houses are not that cheap.

I don’t know what year you’re living in.

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MisterBobAFeet@reddit

Technically you can buy an old burnt out former crack house for like 15k. You wouldn't want to live in it, but it is a house.

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tornado9015@reddit

Google "gary indiana real estate".

https://www.zillow.com/homes/gary-in_rb/?semQue=null&utm_content=289220577|15937973217|dsa-101220897657|198317992238|&semQue=null&k_clickid=7f3c6452-d26b-45fa-bb84-968b498c2a8c&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiuC2BhDSARIsALOVfBLp-QuUKytTocGJaec-xSR02ir4dOsjTZi-P-B7De--zOeT7M1-CQ8aApKdEALw_wcB

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Matt_32506@reddit

Holy hell

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sovLegend@reddit

Actual property

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Mesarthim1349@reddit

Yeah.... don't be desperate if you don't have to.

NEET is ok sometimes.

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ShinyArc50@reddit

a house in gary that is, in fact, that cheap

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TurtleFisher54@reddit

Did you read anything past the price? It is not currently habitable as anything but a trap house (a really bad one)

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richard_stank@reddit

If you want to lower your standards further and look at montgomery Alabama, you can find modest, decent housing at that price. The crime rates, schools, life expectancy, infant mortality, homicide rate, and every other fucking metric of human civilization are worse… but it’s a roof.

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Best_Upstairs5397@reddit

There are literally dilapidated shacks in rural Nevada towns that would be better homes.

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thebiggestleaf@reddit

Motherfucker, you couldn't pay me to live in Gary Indiana.

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LurkersUniteAgain@reddit

2000 sq ft is a mansion?

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SquidZillaYT@reddit

yeah but you live in fucking Gary Indiana

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Advice2Anyone@reddit

It's 2100 square feet it ain't not mansion bigger than your avg home but I'd say mansion is more 4k and up

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Reynarok@reddit

That "mansion" has 3 bedrooms. It's the sitcom stereotype you describe, falling to pieces, and in Bumfuck Nowhere. The lot it's on is likely priced that much

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sanesociopath@reddit

The lot it's on is likely priced that much

Shit, if a tornado came by and sucked that probably down until it was just a landplot it would likely be worth more

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throwtheclownaway20@reddit

It's not the house that's the issue, boy genius.

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Lobster_fest@reddit

This is 2100 square feet. It already is a 2 or 3 bed middle class sitcom house. It's also torn to shit, breaking every code in existence, and is in ~~hell on earth~~ Gary, Indiana.

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Ilikethemfatandugly@reddit

Did you see the link of the Zillow pics posted above? The mansion is dilapidated and unlivable inside you would easily put another 100k getting the place livable

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SerialStateLineXer@reddit

*Living not guaranteed.

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DeadFuckStick59@reddit

Someone send this to Nick Rochefort. He will likely say this is twice as much as anyone should pay. Or at ALL. Gary is an utter shithole.

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Bigwilliam360@reddit

I’m sure you can buy a terrible house in bumfuck nowhere England for low money too

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SmallGodFly@reddit

Yeah but "bumfuck nowhere England" is at most, two hours drive from any major city. Edinburgh to London is an 8 hour drive. Or you can just get a plane for cheap.

There are lots of lovely cottages out in the country, just no work for young people in those areas.

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Bigwilliam360@reddit

Gary Indiana isn’t far from some decent cities

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Diezelbub@reddit

Yeah but it'll be more like a two room cottage

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blueguy211@reddit

that mansion is either

complete shit

or

its haunted

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morzikei@reddit

So you get real estate and potentially luck into ghussy

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letsgoplaygames@reddit

Fucking goons don’t even wipe their asses let alone know shit about buying property

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Banzai416@reddit

Bet it’s haunted and built on top of the indian cemetery

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Varixx95__@reddit

If you see a house like this in the UK it means it’s new. If you see a brick house in the US it means it was built by British people back when they were a colony

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wdsuita@reddit

Yes, but add that same amount for student loan debt

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easyadventurer@reddit

I know nothing about American cities, and yet I know about Gary, Indiana

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Csonkus41@reddit

In what world is 2,100 sqft a mansion? That’s literally the average starter home in the Midwest.

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King_Of_The_Shot@reddit

mfw location factors into the price 🤯🤯

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XanII@reddit

I call these 'bail in' housing. Somewhere someone pops a cork on a champagne bottle and goes 'We got em' like they did with Osama for they sure got you now.

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VortexFalcon50@reddit

A "mansion" with half of its structural integrity being termites and cockroaches, in a neighborhood where an hour standing on your front porch will end up with you robbed and naked in the street

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OldManMoment@reddit

Anon once again shows impressive reasoning and deep thinking.

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TheyCallMeCool1@reddit

Because its in the midwest, there isn't a grocery store for 50 miles

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Artoritet@reddit

Welcome to Night City, a city of dreams!

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Jade_Sugoi@reddit

Hmmmm, only $100,000 to live in the mold mansion

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Silverware_soviet@reddit

The indian burial ground:

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thiccdickdawn@reddit

Parents just bought the top floor of a duplex for like 250k usd

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ChwizZ@reddit

The entire house needs to be renovated, and there's a 50/50 chance you'll need an excorsist.

But hey, at least it's a house!

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galorth@reddit

589 homicides in the last 12 months in chicago vs 49 where I live.

No thanks

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carnabas@reddit

The problem is people struggling to buy a house need a loan/mortgage they dont have 100k cash to drop on a cheap house that will require a ton of work and there is NO bank that is going to back the loan for that POS, guaranteed its got either wiring/electrical issues, plumbing , structural or some other major hang up that will be a no starter for banks

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PongSoHard@reddit

Sold for 15k 07/2024

🤔

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roehnin@reddit

Dear UK 4channer: see that city location? That’s like suggesting to buy a house in Camden.

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Wiggie49@reddit

Mansion

3 beds 2 baths.

Is anon regarded?

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magpakalasing@reddit

2.1k sqft

"mansion"

OP has confirmed they are from the UK

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cashmonet69@reddit

wow if only there was some way to tell they were from the uk beforehand

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magpakalasing@reddit

wow if only i hadn’t said confirmed

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cashmonet69@reddit

who tf would set their vpn to the uk

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crazycar12321@reddit

People who wanna watch Luther, probably.

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Big_Slop@reddit

It’s 100k for the patch of land the mansion is sitting on. If you have a few mil in your back pocket you could renovate it and bring it up to code, if you have half a mail you can bulldoze it and drop a 3br on the remains. Also it’s Gary IN which means anything of value is at risk of being spirited away from the jobsite before and after install.

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Mister-Schwifty@reddit

Since when is 2100 square feet a mansion?

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Bigmace_1021@reddit

Gary Indiana

Fuck. That.

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leglesslegolegolas@reddit

are the Brits okay?

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Signal_Character7751@reddit

On the brightside, Gary isnt as bad anymore. On the downside, they all moved into neighboring towns and are slowly ruining those places too

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miko3456789@reddit

Gary, Indiana

Yeah fuck that

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Kittygamer1415@reddit

It's a shit hole of a house that needs hundreds of thousands in repairs, and is in fucking Gary Indiana.

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FVCEGANG@reddit

Imagine thinking this is a mansion or that Gary Indiana is a desirable place to live 😂

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TyrannicalKitty@reddit

Okay, now pull up the median income of that area and come back to me :P

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dcarsonturner@reddit

You couldn’t pay me to live in Gary, Indiana

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KZelley@reddit

You couldn’t pay me to live in fucking Gary Indiana.

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plstation@reddit

Tell me where the nearest job that can afford that house is, anon. Go ahead.

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kioley@reddit

Gary Indiana is about that though, and you don't want to live in a city that's about that.

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Subject_Book1676@reddit

that is not a mansion bro

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Marshmall066@reddit

Gary Indiana is one of the places god has truly abandoned and left to the devil

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realestwood@reddit

Ain’t no way I’m movin to scary Gary for 2.1k sq feet

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Revverb@reddit

The funniest part is that this house was worth $26k in 2016. It's literally quadrupled in price and it's still a run down piece of shit. It's so over. Literally why even bother trying for anything anymore lmao

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