My pc got fried. I need to save up for a new one. In the meantime, im creating a new build. Any suggestions?
Posted by Proper_Mushroom_9754@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 33 comments
My old build:
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 CPU cooler: scythe 5 srgb MOBO: b450 tomahawk RAM: G.skill triden 3600mhz cl16 2x8 GPU: RX590 fatboy 8gb
I havent been up to date on the newest pc parts since i built my last pc(which was 5 years ago)
This is my current selection. But im unsure how the newer ddr5 ram works and if 6000mhz means i can really put it at that with xmp profile like the 3600. Ive read online that its unstable. Also i dont really know what motherboard to choose and dont really know whats good with the ram i chose. I need 32gb of ram because of editing and information gathering (100 google tabs open) 16gb wasnt cutting it.
I have never really checked the intel side of things so i dont know whats good for the ram, cpu and motherboard.
The cooler for the cpu is the scythe bc i heard it uses the same socket as AM5 and i wanna save some money.
My budget is around 1200-1300 euros
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GDvWWt
Any suggestions/changes are appreciated (big or small)
ltecruz@reddit
Something like this makes more sense:
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The 7900GRE is in the same price range, so pick whatever you prefer. Added an SSD, don't know if you need one or not.
Proper_Mushroom_9754@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the quick response. Could you explain why some of these changes are better? The ram and mobo? Thx btw
ltecruz@reddit
I've had good experiences with this particular ASRock motherboard, so I know it just works. Some cheaper MSI mobos tend to have cheaper VRMs, albeit I don't know this model in particular it seems like a cheaper version of the b650-p. If you want to keep MSI/atx size I'd go for the MAG Tomahawk Wifi, but even the B650-P should serve you will.
The RAM was just the first that I could pick in PCPartpicker, there are some die differences but it only makes sense for overclockers. It has RGB so I guess that's a plus if you are into that.
Line_Deep@reddit
I unjustly disregard ASrock as budget avoid - that was true years ago, but i keep seeing people rating them high - i need to retrain my brain ASUS bad ASROCK good
Proper_Mushroom_9754@reddit (OP)
My old pc has 3 ssd’s and a 1 tb nvme ssd which is why i left those out. But thanks anyway!
bageorge00@reddit
Here is build with an A tier 750W Powersupply.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3N6DDZ
bageorge00@reddit
Try to get a better Powersupply. than one is worse than the OG 850 GF1
BaronB@reddit
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HdLsz6
Here are my tweaks. Only thing in your original picks that was “bad“ was the PSU, Thermaltake PSUs are flakey, even the supposed high end ones. More recent reviews of that specific PSU finds it fails easily.
The motherboard was also borderline. The cheaper MSI motherboards often aren't really able to deliver the full power even the 7600X may want. It’ll probably be fine for gaming, but there are good motherboards for not much more.
I picked the Asrock B650 Pro RS WIFI, but you can switch that to the non-WiFi version to save a few more dollars.
Other parts were picked just because they’ll perform just as well for less. The case in particular is actually a better overall performing case in terms of noise to cooling than the Corsair 4000D, and comes with 3 140mm fans. The Corsair 4000D only comes with two 120mm fans, and could use at least one more.
Proper_Mushroom_9754@reddit (OP)
I do like the design of the corsair case and i still have some corsair fans from my old case. Do you still recommend the other one then?
BaronB@reddit
If you like the 4000D Airflow, it's still a very good case. The Montech is just less expensive and overall a (slightly) better performer when it comes to noise and cooling. It's only a degree or two cooler running, and it's quieter because it can use 140mm fans. The Corsair 4000D is slightly better made though, and I agree is a better looking case.
If you don't mind the price difference, especially if you have some extra fans already, go with the 4000D. Like I said, nothing else in your list was explicitly bad apart from the PSU.
Proper_Mushroom_9754@reddit (OP)
The ram i chose had something called AMD expo. What exactly is it and is it necessary or important. The one you chose doesn’t have it?
Nsqui@reddit
Expo is AMD's version of Intel XMP. Both essentially just provide you with manufacturer-configured overclock profiles that you can enable in the Bios to increase the transfer speed of your RAM.
I'm not much of an overclocker, but I imagine you can still overclock your RAM without XMP/EXPO, it just would require a lot more user input and trial/error than just swapping to an XMP/EXPO profile in the bios.
BaronB@reddit
AMD motherboards can use XMP profiles. Some RAM has additional EXPO profiles specific for AMD, which are basically XMP with a few more settings. They can theoretically be helpful for getting higher speeds vs what XMP would allow, but usually they’re exactly the same settings as XMP.
Proper_Mushroom_9754@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the quick reply and suggestions mate. One thing about the ram. Do most people actually out their ram at 6000mhz? Is it a sweet spot just like 3600mhz was for ddr4? Or is it unstable and most people put it lower?
BaronB@reddit
DDR5 6000 is the sweet spot. So much so that 6400 is actually sometimes slower for Ryzen 7000 and 9000. And yes, people really do run at 6000, sometimes even 6800, but that and 7200 are generally less stable.
failaip13@reddit
Honestly wouldn't change anything here, but I wonder what exactly happened to your old PC?
Proper_Mushroom_9754@reddit (OP)
Thats something i want to know aswell. I live on an island with frequent power outages and unstable power. Maybe over the course of 5 years old age accompanied with untimely shutdowns has fried my components. Im pretty sure my gpu is dead and my ram has been unstable. Many other problems aswell. Figured its more reasonable to build a new one instead of repairing, as this one has been getting old.
ThatGuy334667@reddit
You probably invest in surge protector extension if that's the norm. Power outages will fuck any electronic up if they aren't properly protected
420KillaNA@reddit
at least use a surge protector - power may go out but if just straight plugged into wall - zap there goes the PC and maybe what happened - and a good surge protector like Tripp Lite Isobar not the shitty $5 ones at Walmart - the one I have has 8 NEMA-15 outlets (aka standard USA 3-prong pos/neg/ground) and they're pricey like $75 - but has voltage regulation for small fluctuations (similar to what UPS does - other than it's not a UPS and doesn't keep PC on like off battery D/C power)
but not sure what the equivalent is on said island and IF you can even order these there... but I'm sure there's an equivalent - ngl there's a bunch of surge bars that are "just as good" - but as the Isobar is known - it's prty much fireproof outside of the power cable - and it's a solid heavy metal casing - not that it's 100% necessary - as there's a number of decent plastic casing surge protectors - but ngl I been using these for 20+ years and super solid - they're legit commercial/industrial grade and used in hospitals/govt/police or fire stations and such in US
old PC I had a 3000VA UPS backup (which died) but don't need one here - and ngl it only kept the PC running for about 10 minutes but rated for 2+ hours - probably for a kids nightlight lmao not a 1200W PSU god tier gaming PC that draws 550-750W of electric from the wall while running Folding@Home 😂
PC is a little insane though and racks up a $300/mo electric bill easy while Folding
Moscato359@reddit
I ended up buying a powerline conditioner to protect against this nonsense.
I lost 2 PCs prior to getting one. Never again!
_brontosaurus_@reddit
Should invest in an UPS if you have shitty power
jhaluska@reddit
Look into getting a UPS with a true sine wave (aka skip the cheapest ones) and possibly a power line conditioner.
Pattyg1@reddit
I'd honestly look into the PSU as a culprit for your issue. If you're likely building a new PC anyway, grabbing a new PSU 1st could allow use of the PC for a bit longer, while you save $.
Also you might want to invest in a UPS battery backup.
failaip13@reddit
That sounds reasonable, though personally after getting a new pc I'd want to check all the other components and if some work sell them to recoup some costs.
Proper_Mushroom_9754@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the advice!
Eugr@reddit
Your build looks fine.
I would get another PSU (e.g. Corsair RM850x). If you get 4000D case, you can go with a RM850x Shift that has connectors on the side and has 12VHPWR cable for GPUs - it makes cable management easier.
I’ve just completed a similar build for my son. Reused SSD from my old PC and used beQuiet Dark Rock Elite cooler that I originally used for my i9-14900k build and then replaced with an AIO.
I really like 4000D case. It has great airflow and easy to build in
H_VvV@reddit
I second the RM850x, no reason to get anything else other than Corsair RMx in your capacity of choice lol
RayOronoz@reddit
I do sell parts, used working tested and also news all depends on what you need, check this build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
to be honest my cost as a seller was about 1250$ 1350$ aprox, if you want we can so business lol I'm in USA.
GearGolemTMF@reddit
Were there any surviving parts of the old build?
Proper_Mushroom_9754@reddit (OP)
My cpu and mobo might be fine but if i were to still spend 600£ to be new equipment, i’d rather save up for some newer stuff as it is getting old.
Mr_Henry_Yau@reddit
Which country are you buying your parts from? I asked because you mentioned euros.
Proper_Mushroom_9754@reddit (OP)
Depends on where cheaper. Most part will be from netherlands because its easier for me to get it to where i live but some parts might come from America if its cheaper.
Mr_Henry_Yau@reddit
Modified your build. I think you can get a 4070 Super with your budget. I'm not sure if buying from America is a good option for you due to shipping costs.
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