2025 Ford Explorer ST | Fixing Failed Attempts [savagegeese]

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danperson1@reddit

They turned out to be totally justified in their criticisms of the 2020 model, glad Ford listened to feedback.

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6786_007@reddit

Ford can't afford to eff up their trucks or SUVs because of their popularity in the general car market..... and also because that's all they sell now lol.

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Trumpsuxassholes@reddit

Well using a wet timing belt system on turbos is catastrophe in waiting. These belts don't take much mileage to start to fail. That and cheaper and cheaper plastic parts. It's infuriating.

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1trickana@reddit

Tuned they are a riot, can embarrass Chargers and Camaros

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bestselfnice@reddit

Stock they're 55 HP shy and 1,000 lbs heavier than a V8 Camaro, and it looks like tunes are good for 30-75 HP (Ford performance, ZFG high octane exclusive).

I'm failing to imagine how that would justify your comment.

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In real world it’s enough to catch faster cars off guard. I walked a 392 with my Denali when I got a 15mph head start on him lol. We went up to 80ish. Straight up he dusted me no contest at the light lol. 410whp 460wtq on my 6.2.

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iam_LLORT@reddit

15mph roll and the hit isn’t impressive on another car racing to 80 😂

I gapped a school bus earlier that wasn’t racing too

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randeus@reddit

An ST caught me off guard once. I wasn’t expecting a race or anything, but he took off hard from the light hard and it took me some throttle to catch up and pass him. AWD and tons of torque does a lot.

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1trickana@reddit

Sorry didn't mean tuned, FBO they're good for 700-800HP

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bestselfnice@reddit

Are we calling bigger turbos bolt ons nowadays? Lmao

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redditisawasteoftim3@reddit

All those components use bolts didn't they?

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michlantecuh@reddit

Soon as you open the engine it's no longer considered bolt ons.

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redditisawasteoftim3@reddit

That's just like your opinion man

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bestselfnice@reddit

I think they were joking

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TenguBlade@reddit

At a drag strip, a Camaro SS or Charger Scat Pack will have enough power to pull ahead. In a stoplight race, a tuned Explorer ST can keep up because of AWD.

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bluedaytona392@reddit

They can try.

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hugh_madson@reddit

They said they'd take it over a cx90 on driving characteristics, reddit in shambles

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DocPhilMcGraw@reddit

Hopefully Todd Willing being head of design now at Ford he can straighten out the mess in this design language.

I don’t know how we went from this to this in less than a decade.

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Liet_Kinda2@reddit

Well, Todd willing, he will.

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DanilaIce@reddit

DON'T.

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delebojr@reddit

It did the opposite of the Traverse which went from this to this

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TenguBlade@reddit

Todd Willing had nothing to do with this. In fact, design in general had nothing to do with it. They just copied the MY2023 China Explorer refresh for the sake of saving money.

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Mydickisaplant@reddit

This ain’t the argument you think this is. They’re both bland and ugly

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pvdp90@reddit

I don’t mind either of those. The front on that existed inbetween them is the worse one by far

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The_Strom784@reddit

Seems like it got stung by a bee and is suffering from anaphylaxis.

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DodgerBlueRobert1@reddit

Neither of them are good looking to me, but this 2025 refresh made the current Explorer worse looking up front. The interior is better though.

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Big_Size_2519@reddit

The original explorer savage geese vid for this generation is an all timer, They literally hated that car

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Dangerous-Air2566@reddit

For good reason, the roll out of that Explorer, which used to be their bread and butter, was a total shit show. Jim Farley is a hack and has been a disaster from the very get-go

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delebojr@reddit

The average time to develop a vehicle is 4.5 years. Since Farley took over in 2020, the earliest program that he "controlled" entirely wouldn't be released until this year, at the earliest.

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SireEvalish@reddit

Jim Farley was not in charge when the sixth gen launch. Joe Hendrichs (sp?) was the guy who ended up getting the blame and "retired" shortly thereafter.

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Own_Pass_926@reddit

I have some stock, and we had to vote whether to keep using child labor a few months ago. They recommended we vote to keep it going. Lol

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kartdotmiata@reddit

I missed the roll out of the Explorer, but I saw the reveal of the new Mustang... Idk who put on that presentation, but was it also Jim Farley? I'm not sure if him or the writers should take the blame for that one...

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