You are asking the forbidden questions whose answer only brings madness.
I suggest you to hold on to your sanity, don't look too deep into places where you can't come back from. The Abyss has a habit of consuming you when you look at it.
I can't remember if it was in the LotR books, but in the Silmarillion like every second character there's a line along the lines of "and so the elves called him kekgohooek, which means black sword from the river in Sindarin".
Actually I think even literal swords had this too. Now that I think about it it did happen in LotR, Anduril comes to mind
Saruman is into sounding? never would have imagined that. But now that I think about it, that guy does look like someone who might enjoy that sort of stuff.
Saruwoman and how the fellowship/patriarchy of the ring is actually the baddy.
How the ring would allow they/them Saurona to save the world thru equity and diversity. Aragorn's line was the evil patriarchy and deserved its downfall.
Shelob was a strong independent single mother who was simply protecting her home from the evil halfling men.
the eagles are all female. The elves are all female. The ents are all female. The nazgul are all female, every last single one of them, all except the orcs. the orcs are bad, they are bad these fucking orcs
i had no elder figures to talk to about the books and why i abandoned them at an early age. i always loved the shit it brought out in dragon warrior and final fantasy 1
I’m not surprised the woman who used every single Jewish stereotype for her banker race thinks “Cho Chang” is a good name for an Asian student. I kinda wonder if she thought about making the house elfs closer to African slaves but figured that might be too far.
The weird thing about this is that all the other ents are just named as their species. It's like in movie credits when there's an unnamed character so they're just "boy in red shirt" or "drunk man 3"
The reason for that (because Tolkien was extremely autistic and wrote down his reasons for everything) was that these were just their nicknames given by non ents and used when interacting with them because saying an ent's actual name takes like six or more hours. So they are just the first thing random humans came up with off the top of their head to call them.
If the reason is just "I already spent all week inventing a whole language, it's Saturday afternoon, and I'm gonna be bloody late for Cricket", I'll accept it.
That should actually be a test given to children, did you find the naming of Lupin to be obnoxiously fucking stupid? If not you have to stay back a year.
This is such a regarded and tacky move that I wonder if it was at miyazakis request. Like, Martin is a pretty smart, deep fellow that has been writing popular fantasy and sci-fi for decades. Would he really give a fuck about self inserting into a video game he will never play?
Naming the guy who leads the secret occult ritual loving pseudo-religious side faction of the main evil faction Slightlychangedmainbadname Secretly. Maybe the implication is that Himmler was secretly a clone of Hitler?
That would make so much sense. Someone went hands off with the simulation. Honestly shit has felt too weird to be real the last few years. Almost a decade now.
Anon has absolutely NEVER written a book before. Names are so FUCKING HARD, especially if you're in a fantasy setting where your names have to sound less or not at all like real names. On top of that, Saruman and Sauron are related beings, they're both Maiar spirits, iirc. Saruman, Gandalf, Radagast, and the two Blue Wizards were sent to Middle Earth with physical forms as sort of guides for mankind. Sauron is the lieutenant of the OG dark lord, Morgoth. The closest thing to Maiar in our world lore would be something like angels and demons. Other Maiar spirits are the Balrogs (yes plural, there were several), great beasts of shadow and flame, which were corrupted similarly to Sauron. Morgoth could not create, he could only corrupt and destroy.
Just like this fucking greentext has completely misconstrued and corrupted the sacred texts of LOTR
Yeah, try picking a name that fits in your fantasy-ass setting that also doesn't sound like a name that will instantly cause people to give you a wedgie everywhere you go.
The first time I read TLOTR I was 11. And I got confused between Sauron and Saruman at first. Wasn;t till later I realised they were different people, and who was the big bad.
I remember watching fellowship as a kid for the first time and being confused when Gandalf was friends with sauroman at the start... Because he was obviously evil. It might have been me thinking it was the same name initially lol
I might be stoned, but if the worlds of LoTR and Naruto combined...
So if Tobi was Obito's pseudonym when he was part of Akatsuki, if he was an evil follower of Sauron instead of Madara he would be... uhhh... Sarutobi?!
Sheeker389@reddit
Saruman is his Human given name, comes from old English, meaning "skillful" and "cunning". Sauron comes from Quenya and means "abhored".
Reyking1708@reddit
It sounds like a heavily accented pronunciation of Solomon imo.
kanny_jiller@reddit
Did lotr have chinamen
personisguy@reddit
Chinese guy here. Please keep using Chinaman
nimbusnorton@reddit
Shut up easterling.
AcrolloPeed@reddit
Damn dude you hit the hard “R” on this one
TheChiliarch@reddit
It's actually the hard 'L' makes it offensive here, real Chinamen go "wassup my easterring?"
KJBenson@reddit
What’s up my esta’ling?
Qingdao243@reddit
Find some others and I'll bring the dirigible
KJBenson@reddit
Alright, but should I make the face and accent while I do it too?
Omegadimsum@reddit
Also Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature... Asian-American please
Reyking1708@reddit
Idk, I was just sayin what it sounds like, I have never seen LOtR
fugue2005@reddit
That's Lacist
Nagatox@reddit
Velcro for life
FalseTautology@reddit
You mean the easterlings?
SkyfireSierra@reddit
🤓
Hyperversum@reddit
We aren't on tiktok child
AegisT_@reddit
Implying reddit is much better
FeederPiet@reddit
Well every other social media purely lives off self-portrayal, so there's that.
Hyperversum@reddit
At least people still read beyond 5 words
AegisT_@reddit
Well...
PooeyPatoeei@reddit
Help you complete the sentence Aegis, no need to thank me.
AegisT_@reddit
Am I able to anyways?
PooeyPatoeei@reddit
You are asking the forbidden questions whose answer only brings madness.
I suggest you to hold on to your sanity, don't look too deep into places where you can't come back from. The Abyss has a habit of consuming you when you look at it.
Don't become another one of its victims.
Don't become one of us.
PooeyPatoeei@reddit
Ezekiel-25-17-guy@reddit
🤡
Wonderful-Cicada-912@reddit
scrolled unexpectedly long for the word reveal
chalk_in_boots@reddit
I can't remember if it was in the LotR books, but in the Silmarillion like every second character there's a line along the lines of "and so the elves called him kekgohooek, which means black sword from the river in Sindarin".
Actually I think even literal swords had this too. Now that I think about it it did happen in LotR, Anduril comes to mind
Salaino0606@reddit
If LOTR was filmed today we'd have a Saruwoman
ikonfedera@reddit
He already has a dress, long hair and does drama with other long haired people in dresses.
TeensyTrouble@reddit
Plays with another mans staff
BonkeyKongthesecond@reddit
Ordered his orks to get rid of the wood
PooeyPatoeei@reddit
Saruman is into sounding? never would have imagined that. But now that I think about it, that guy does look like someone who might enjoy that sort of stuff.
Sengfroid@reddit
I don't want to give you this one but he does seem like someone who might enjoy that sort of stuff
ikonfedera@reddit
What is pondering orb if not sounding (as in probing) the situation in a more visual and more round way?
ErasablePotato@reddit
mm, no, very unwise
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
Robes, like speedsuits, are unisex.
DuckWithBrokenWings@reddit
All clothes are unisex. The sex is what's hiding beneath the clothes.
rocketsnail1000@reddit
And Saruperson
PooeyPatoeei@reddit
Sarucopter
cheekybandit0@reddit
Saruapacheattackhelicopter
naufalap@reddit
inb4 one joke to offend them all
EtteRavan@reddit
Sariga ?
wirelessp0tat0@reddit
Waifsaru?
StrangeLilThing@reddit
I mean joke all you want, but he does turn into Saruman of Many Colours, so he's basically wearing the pride flag.
Beneficial_Pear9705@reddit
Saurothey
MoistStub@reddit
Sarussy
rendar@reddit
The All-seeing Whispering Eye
ArthurBonesly@reddit
Auruperson the many colored!
TheOneWhoReadsStuff@reddit
Sarutransblackwoman
Herroefant@reddit
Sarucamera and Sarutv
MDSGeist@reddit
Gary_FucKing@reddit
This tame ass scene had incels screeching for fucking weeks.
Admirable-Win-9716@reddit
Wait till I tell you about black speech../
S1lver_Smurfer@reddit
Not just Sarumen, but Saruwomen and Saruchildren too!
HammerWaffe@reddit
Saruwoman and how the fellowship/patriarchy of the ring is actually the baddy.
How the ring would allow they/them Saurona to save the world thru equity and diversity. Aragorn's line was the evil patriarchy and deserved its downfall. Shelob was a strong independent single mother who was simply protecting her home from the evil halfling men.
I_Don-t_Care@reddit
the eagles are all female. The elves are all female. The ents are all female. The nazgul are all female, every last single one of them, all except the orcs. the orcs are bad, they are bad these fucking orcs
BlazeRagnarokBlade@reddit
Average hentai plot
lce_Fight@reddit
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
TheDevilsAdvokaat@reddit
And the orcs would be black
blippie@reddit
More like Sarupoc
BustedBayou@reddit
And she would be black and have purple hair
Medusa107@reddit
That sounds like a digimon
nuuudy@reddit
Sarumen, Saruwomen, Saruchildren even
Sangwiny@reddit
Saruthey/Saruthem
RuneHearth@reddit
Sarunonbinary🤣
WeekendBard@reddit
And the sauronchild too!
MikeGianella@reddit
The millenia spanning folk tradition of "naming shit what it actually is"
EtteRavan@reddit
"Tell me, what's the name of this river ?"
"That avon ?"
"Thank you" *Notes "river avon" on the map like a fool*
habb@reddit
my crayon eating ass couldn't distinguish between the two when i was like 10. i loved the maps in the front of the books
habb@reddit
i had no elder figures to talk to about the books and why i abandoned them at an early age. i always loved the shit it brought out in dragon warrior and final fantasy 1
TeensyTrouble@reddit
Still better than making his smartest wizard “Gandalf the fool”
Isis_gonna_be_waswas@reddit
“Two can play at that game Saruman!”
“Or should I say… Saruman the stupid.”
Janoz@reddit
No! You take that back!
AcrolloPeed@reddit
“Sharuman the Shtinky”
TheMurderousDuck@reddit
Saruman the silly
TacoOverlord69@reddit
Saruman the wrinkly
chan___kun@reddit
SARUMAN THE STINKYYY 🗣️🗣️🗣️
geofox777@reddit
And much better than JK Rowling naming the only black character “Kingsley Shacklebolts”
TeensyTrouble@reddit
I’m not surprised the woman who used every single Jewish stereotype for her banker race thinks “Cho Chang” is a good name for an Asian student. I kinda wonder if she thought about making the house elfs closer to African slaves but figured that might be too far.
Big_Slop@reddit
I thought his wisest wizard was a forest hobo who pranced around the woods singing about how cool his name is
RendolfGirafMstr@reddit
Two can play at that game!
Ryanchri@reddit
"you'll never guess what I called the bearded tree fellow"
chalk_in_boots@reddit
The weird thing about this is that all the other ents are just named as their species. It's like in movie credits when there's an unnamed character so they're just "boy in red shirt" or "drunk man 3"
princezilla88@reddit
The reason for that (because Tolkien was extremely autistic and wrote down his reasons for everything) was that these were just their nicknames given by non ents and used when interacting with them because saying an ent's actual name takes like six or more hours. So they are just the first thing random humans came up with off the top of their head to call them.
Tarnishedhollow8@reddit
Souronman
OldManMoment@reddit
If the reason is just "I already spent all week inventing a whole language, it's Saturday afternoon, and I'm gonna be bloody late for Cricket", I'll accept it.
princezilla88@reddit
So what actually happened is that he made the languages first and then pulled the names from them and them sounding similar was pure coincidence lol
thekingofbeans42@reddit
"Okay but real quick you have this tree with a beard, editor wants a name on that asap!"
AcrolloPeed@reddit
Goatree? No, but we’re onto something here!
rhino_shit_gif@reddit
Better than Rowling ffs
TeensyTrouble@reddit
former slave, named shacklebottom.
reisenbime@reddit
Worse. Shacklebolt
Dravarden@reddit
shacklebolt is a wizard supercop
he shackles bad wizards, then bolts their cells in azkaban
scorpionballs@reddit
Werewolf character - Lupin
Even reading it as a kid I thought she must be a fucking moron for that
FalseTautology@reddit
That should actually be a test given to children, did you find the naming of Lupin to be obnoxiously fucking stupid? If not you have to stay back a year.
sluraplea@reddit
better than prisonsub
LigmaSneed@reddit
Professor Sprout
Half_smart_m0nk3y@reddit
Fucking Prof. Pomona Sprout. Pomona being the roman goddess of fruits and fruit trees …
FunMarketing4488@reddit
ngl Cho fucking Chang had my sides into orbit so fast
WintersbaneGDX@reddit
Melina, Malenia, Malekith, Marika, Mohg, Morgott, Margit, Messmer
Renna, Ranni, Rennala, Rellana, Radahn, Rykard, Roderika, Radagon
Godwyn, Gideon, Godfrey, Godefroy, Godrick
Dravarden@reddit
that's also bad, actually
giraffebacon@reddit
What are you doing, who are those people
TeensyTrouble@reddit
Lord of the rings characters, most only shown in the extended cut.
giraffebacon@reddit
Ahh
jackrayd@reddit
They arent
LLMprophet@reddit
You took the bait
jackrayd@reddit
☝️🤓
giraffebacon@reddit
Ahh
LordRatini777@reddit
Elden Ring characters. GRRM worked on the lore and named the characters, and a large bumber of them, especially the demigods, share his initials.
FalseTautology@reddit
This is such a regarded and tacky move that I wonder if it was at miyazakis request. Like, Martin is a pretty smart, deep fellow that has been writing popular fantasy and sci-fi for decades. Would he really give a fuck about self inserting into a video game he will never play?
MafusailAlbert@reddit
It was already in Dark Souls with characters sharing first letter. So, maybe it was Miyazaki's request for shit and giigles or even part of PR
Gwyn (father) - Gwynever (daughter) - Gwyndolin (son)
Lothric and Lorian (brothers)
Oceiros (father) - Ocelotte (son)
UltimateInferno@reddit
I have to point out that because Elden Ring is a Japanese game, Miquella would be pronounced "Mikerra" (compare it to Marika)
VacaRexOMG777@reddit
Saying marika in Spanish sounds so close to uhm yeah....
didntgetenoughsleep@reddit
Dravarden@reddit
are they brothers? no? then it's a coincidence
Tolkien wrote both Saruman and Sauron, therefore, he could have chosen different names
you would likely make fun of a parent that named both of their kids "Daniel", because that's fucking stupid and confusing
PooeyPatoeei@reddit
I wonder where Heimlich maneuver fits into all of this.
tassatus@reddit
Hilda! Hilda! Wake up Hilda!
I have invented… a maneuver.
BoosherCacow@reddit
Is there a funny part to that? I had to close out of it halfway through to do something entertaining.
tassatus@reddit
What’d you do
BoosherCacow@reddit
I sat back and thought about how I'm spending my life.
tassatus@reddit
Well good play mate because that’s not entertaining to me, that’s terrifying but we’re all trying our best
BoosherCacow@reddit
Me neither, I was lying to both of us
Jackanova3@reddit
The Heimlich maneuver wasn't invented until the 1970s.
If it was being developed back then it was probably more of a gesture than a maneuver.
Moaoziz@reddit
Heimlich is the German word for secretly. Use that information however you like.
Ghost3276@reddit
Naming the guy who leads the secret occult ritual loving pseudo-religious side faction of the main evil faction Slightlychangedmainbadname Secretly. Maybe the implication is that Himmler was secretly a clone of Hitler?
PooeyPatoeei@reddit
Hitler and his follower Himmler were Heimlich lovers??
WintersbaneGDX@reddit
You do that when your army chokes on a cherry tomato from the farmers market garden
AegisT_@reddit
Who's paying the writers?
PooeyPatoeei@reddit
No one, its all AI at this point.
1ncorrect@reddit
That would make so much sense. Someone went hands off with the simulation. Honestly shit has felt too weird to be real the last few years. Almost a decade now.
UltimateInferno@reddit
Fun fact, there was an Australian aboriginal language that also referred to canines as "dog" by sheer coincidence.
ImprovisedLeaflet@reddit
Give them a break, they’re German. Writing isn’t their strong suit.
NetStaIker@reddit
They’re practical types after all
JeffreyClose@reddit
Guy is named Obama. Arch-nemesis is named Osama.
Terrible
Colonel_Potoo@reddit
Come on...
Lucius_Sejanus@reddit
And put this guy in charge of his film propaganda department:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Hippler
Roadman_Shaq@reddit
dogshit writing, they really expect me to believe this shit??
krigeerrr@reddit
life imitates art
Dale_Wardark@reddit
Anon has absolutely NEVER written a book before. Names are so FUCKING HARD, especially if you're in a fantasy setting where your names have to sound less or not at all like real names. On top of that, Saruman and Sauron are related beings, they're both Maiar spirits, iirc. Saruman, Gandalf, Radagast, and the two Blue Wizards were sent to Middle Earth with physical forms as sort of guides for mankind. Sauron is the lieutenant of the OG dark lord, Morgoth. The closest thing to Maiar in our world lore would be something like angels and demons. Other Maiar spirits are the Balrogs (yes plural, there were several), great beasts of shadow and flame, which were corrupted similarly to Sauron. Morgoth could not create, he could only corrupt and destroy.
Just like this fucking greentext has completely misconstrued and corrupted the sacred texts of LOTR
McFlyyouBojo@reddit
Yeah, try picking a name that fits in your fantasy-ass setting that also doesn't sound like a name that will instantly cause people to give you a wedgie everywhere you go.
InfusionOfYellow@reddit
And so Mansuron was born.
darthsexium@reddit
Papageier@reddit
"A tree with a beard? Hmmmm...ah, I know..."
Also, copying half of your characters' names from Nordic mythology? 🤨
CalypsoCrow@reddit
Archaic English word for spider - lob. Big female spider in lord of the rings is named Shelob.
Momongus-@reddit
Is he wrong though
AcrolloPeed@reddit
I mean, she was a lob…
RickAdtley@reddit
Arachnic*
Asgathor@reddit
In 40k Horus was the big bad guy and he literally had a high raking goon which face just looked like horus and his name literally was LITTLE HORUS.
Pitiful_Dig_165@reddit
"I am no tree, I am an ent" -Tree beard
CrispJoey@reddit
He isn't a man or a follower of Sauron
disguy2k@reddit
Looks like Peter stormare
TheDevilsAdvokaat@reddit
The first time I read TLOTR I was 11. And I got confused between Sauron and Saruman at first. Wasn;t till later I realised they were different people, and who was the big bad.
Fuzzy-Spread9720@reddit
Sam
ALiteralBucket@reddit
What should I name that tree fellow with the beard?
jackrayd@reddit
Fangorn
Ryanchri@reddit
Literally just tree beard in a different language
addadisplayname@reddit
Kid named fangorn
Nateosis@reddit
I'm just glad he only had one name
HelloYouSuck@reddit
SaruThey
Crunchy-Leaf@reddit
He’s not a man
redbadger91@reddit
Thank you. I had to scroll way too far for this comment.
Klordz@reddit
He wasn't even a follower of Sauron
davesg@reddit
"Saru" in Japanese is "ape".
DollarAmount7@reddit
I don’t get the joke, gimme money right away. Gimme money now. Gimme money now.
sarattenasai@reddit
Sauronman
fixhuskarult@reddit
I remember watching fellowship as a kid for the first time and being confused when Gandalf was friends with sauroman at the start... Because he was obviously evil. It might have been me thinking it was the same name initially lol
Aroraptor2123@reddit
Hitler and Himmler, Vladimir and Volodomyr. He was just being realistic
LaserfaceJones@reddit
Something something bait believable
_TLDR_Swinton@reddit
"Sauronman... Jolkien, you've done it again."
neoqueto@reddit
I might be stoned, but if the worlds of LoTR and Naruto combined...
So if Tobi was Obito's pseudonym when he was part of Akatsuki, if he was an evil follower of Sauron instead of Madara he would be... uhhh... Sarutobi?!