From personal experience I'm more concerned with the democratic supporters who think Kamala having republican staffers doesn't matter what they are buying into. When it comes to the $ both parties have been the same since 1980 but the democrat supporters are under they delusion that we will be so better off if the dems are in charge. That is debatable.
RALPH NADER: Do you want me to go through the history of the decline and decadence of the Democratic Party? I’m going to give you millstones around the Democratic Party neck that are milestones.
The first big one was in 1979. Tony Coelho, who was a congressman from California, and who ran the House Democratic Campaign treasure chest, convinced the Democrats that they should bid for corporate money, corporate PACs, that they could raise a lot of money. Why leave it up to Republicans and simply rely on the dwindling labor union base for money, when you had a huge honeypot in the corporate area?
And they did. And I could see the difference almost immediately.
I was around when the democrats fought for the people. We had a strong middle class when the dems had our back, but everything changed when Cliniton became potus. I watched Nader fight in Congress for us. I voted for Nader twice after the fact. Have you ever heard of Glass Stegall and Gramm Leach Bliley? I suppose the fact that you actually care about what is happening is better than some folks. I guess I need to take a break.
I don't think it's debatable at all. We've already seen what Trump will do, and what he tried to do, and what the people who support him want to do. The Democrats may just be more politics as usual, or they might actually throw a bone to some progressive causes (as the selection of Tim Walz potentially points to). Either of those options are vastly superior to another Trump administration.
I'll grant you superiority. "vastly superior" is a stretch because nuclear holocaust is on the table because of Biden. There won't be any "normal" if that madman triggers a nuclear exchange. Hopefully Harris will be more sane than Biden but it didn't look that way on the 2020 debate stage. She appeared just as dictatorial as Trump did. She has no respect for the US constitution and Biden told her that in some many words on the debate stage. I'm guessing you missed that part but Harris is terrifying for people with a watchful eye. Both she or Trump could set off a civil war. I can't understand why anybody would vote for either of them.
Care to tell us what exactly the President that withdrew troops from a 20 year war, hasn't sent troops to Ukraine or the Middle East has brought us close to a nuclear war situation?
I just posted a link from the magazine by the council on foreign relations that forcast what Biden intended to do before he was elected it says:
To fight back, the United States must lead its democratic allies and partners in increasing their resilience, expanding their capabilities to defend against Russian subversion, and rooting out the Kremlin’s networks of malign influence. The United States has the capacity to counter this assault and emerge stronger, provided that Washington demonstrates the political will to confront the threat. However, since the Trump administration has shown that it does not take the Russian threat seriously, the responsibility for protecting Western democracy will rest more than ever on Congress, the private sector, civil society, and ordinary Americans.
You can read the rest here if you like but it is there in writing as of 2018 what Biden planned to do.
I think you may have drank the Kool-Aid, my friend. The nuclear holocaust thing is fear-mongering, plain and simple. What has Biden done to put that "on the table"? By aiding Ukraine? What's the alternative, just let Putin do whatever he wants because he has nukes? What happens when he invades a NATO country next and we're obligated by treaty to intervene directly?
I am very confident that no running for office or currently holding office in this country wants a nuclear exchange, and understands what that would mean. I really don't think that even Putin wants that. Nuclear war is not the most pressing concern in this election.
The nuclear holocaust thing is fear-mongering, plain and simple.
I take it you weren't around in the 1960s when the threat of nuclear war still seemed possible. Hopefully you are correct and Putin has more nukes than the US because he doesn't actually believe that he needs them.
What's the alternative, just let Putin do whatever he wants because he has nukes?
Talk about kool aid? I'm guessing you believe Putin starting all of this. Yeah just keep on watching MSNBC and CNN and maybe they will keep you informed.
Oh Lord...part of my brain is morbidly curious and wants to hear what you have to say about what ACTUALLY started the situation in Ukraine, but then part of my brain is screaming at me not to engage. I should probably listen to the latter part, but I'm not going to (which I'll probably regret). So please...tell me who DID start all of this?
I swear for as much as they tell us we get ALL of our info from CNN and MSNBC for false info id love to know where they get their correct info from.
I haven't watched CNN since they did a Trump town hall and let him lie the entire time. Even before then I didn't watch as much because they switched their lineups and started drifting to the both sides rhetoric.
Afraid of what lmao. Most americans haven't heard of tulsi or just know her as running a failed campaign 4 years ago. And many of those that do know her don't support her anymore because of her flip to the right.
You mean when she came at her with a bunch of misleading attacks that Kamala didn't have time to properly address (and probably didn't know what she was specifically referring to since Tulsi didn't provide a lot of details in her attack).
How often did you hear her frame herself as a foremost expert on the subject because of that false alarm about an incoming missile strike in Hawaii back in 2018? She rolled that story out ALL the time.
Yet she still fared better than the default DEI VP who is now likely president despite never even winning a delegate let alone a state on her own in two election cycles.
Why is it a racist dogwhistle? Did Biden not choose Kamala as VP despite no popularity because he had said in a speech he would choose a woman of color as his VP? Or is that something people are ignoring?
He did not say that. Joe Biden interviewed several candidates for VP: Susan Rice, Elizabeth Warren, Gretchen Whitmer, Tammy Baldwin, Karen Bass, Keisha Lance Bottoms, Val Demings, Tammy Duckworth, Maggie Hassan, Amy Klobuchar, Michelle Lujan Grisham, and Gina Raimondo. How many of these are women of color?
Even if he did say that, does that mean he's going to select someone who dropped out of high school and has no political experience as his VP, or will he research qualified Black women and then select the most qualified?
I know you right-wingers somehow like to think it’s not possible for non-white people to be recognized for their accomplishments rather than their skin color, but maybe one day you’ll grow up. Calling a Black woman, especially an accomplished one, a DEI hire is a racist dog whistle because it dismisses her qualifications and reduces her to a token based on her race. What makes you think it's okay to call a Black woman who most likely is more accomplished career wise than you (or any regardless of accomplishments) a DEI hire?
Today's Democrat as well as Republicrat parties both support an establishment republican agenda. Let's not kid ourselves that Trump is coming to shake the system up, especially not this time. He's bringing a whole new swamp of Republican ghouls with him and his sole focus is on escaping jail and winning in 2028 by simply asking for more votes.
They should look at how McCain treated enlisted military people. He treated them like shit, he really looked down on them. Mitt Romney is paid by the left. Why do you think Mitt and Nancy Pelosi are 2 of the richest senators? Bush used fear mongering to start a war and lied to the American people.
I flew McCain and Hillary on VIP flights as a 47 pilot, and I can confirm McCain was a fucking asshole whereas Hillary handed out coins, took photos, and bullshitted with us. I was really disappointed too because I’d looked up to McCain before this but I heard it was pretty common behavior from other aviation units.
He retained the same bailout team on the finance side, which led to similar policies. He was even more in Wall Street's pocket than Bush with Treasury chief appointments like Rubin.
The too big to jail, and not jailing anyone for the tons of criminal activities that went around the 2008 meltdown was the biggest mistake anyone made IMHO.
He retained the same military team, including retaining Robert Gates and the same military policies, just run more incompetently as the whiffs around the Iraq Status of Forces Agreement showed. Under Bush day move-on was running ads calling General Petraeus "General Betray-us", and under Obama he kept getting promoted higher and higher, despite failures such as the Afghan surge.
The neocons retained power in the foreign policy, which meant Obama not only continued the illegal wars under Bush, he started his own illegal war in Libya - which landed up not only destabilizing the Middle - East, it also destabilized Europe with the resulting refugee crisis.
On torture, the only change was instead of the US directly performing it, the US outsourced torture to its allies.
On NSA spying, he went well beyond what even Bush did.
I could go on for a while, but how is this even a question?
A lot of what you're saying is misleading. For instance, Rubin was appointed by Clinton, not Bush, and while he advised Obama, he was not directly responsible for policies. The war in Libya was legally sanctioned by the UN, and Obama did not start it.
Regarding policy changes, Obama enacted significant reforms like Dodd-Frank, the Affordable Care Act, and to the Patriot Act. He signed the Paris Agreement. It's more accurate to say he adapted rather than fully followed Bush's policies.
The UN mandate was not for regime change. The UN resolution allowed only the enforcement of a no-flight zone for the Libyan Air Force
By the time the US and NATO were bombing the heck out of the Libyan Army in Sirte, there was no pretense of a fig leaf, something Hillary rubbed in with her infamous we came, we saw, he died.
It's more accurate to say he adapted rather than fully followed Bush's policies.
Facts are facts—Obama didn’t start the war in Libya, so it’s important to get that right. As for “hope and change,” there were limits given the political realities, such as the party's control of Congress for only two out of his eight years. The ACA, for instance, represents significant change for millions of Americans who previously lacked healthcare, myself included.
Facts are facts. If you want to be technical - It was a civil war. France wanted it, but did not have the logistics to carry it out. Obama made it a US / NATO war. A blatantly illegal involvement which blew well past the UN mandate and one pushed on lies as the British parliament report confirmed.
And an incredibly stupid one as he fought it on the side of Islamic terrorists who were even worse than Gaddafi.
I said he followed Bushes policies, not that he did not make new bad ones in addition to it.
The political realities is cope for the hope and change. My I have a pen and I intend to use it, never let it deter him from doing blatantly partisan things like DACA.
The ACA, for instance, represents significant change for millions of Americans who previously lacked healthcare, myself included.
His even more incompetent version of Romney care was garbage sold on yet some more lies.
This led to the majority of private insurance becoming high deductible insurance, which adversely affects far more millions, myself included. The paperwork also further diminished the drive of doctors to actually listen and treat patients.
You really here saying misleading things nonstop. Republicans today aren't anywhere close to traditional liberal values lol. Overturning Roe v. Wade and supporting restrictive voting laws is the epitome of traditional liberalism. And who wouldn't love a party that champions tariffs and trade barriers while pushing for fewer civil liberties and protections? It's hilarious to think that the Democratic Party, with its focus on social equality and environmental concerns, somehow resembles establishment Republicans.
Wrong. This is an indicator that Trump is a lunatic and a threat to our nation. Go and read why those people are not supporting the republican candidate.
Yeah I don't know what the other people on this thread are smoking. If 200 Republicans (including former staffers) are supporting the other candidate that is just not a good look.
All Trump can brag about is what? RFK and Tulsi Gabbard? That's it? Alright.
He had to get a new vice his supporters wanted Pence to be hanged 😭 And Trump threw him under the bus because he did the right thing and accepted the election results.
And these tulsi/trumpers think that's just dandy and acceptable? Insane. Absolutely insane.
No, that's not the case at all. These people aren't supporting Trump and doing whatever it takes to make sure he's not voted back into office. Y'all can keep your heads in the sand about Trump, but he is an actual threat to our democracy.
Wow, the Dems must be nervous, since they have all their shills monitoring the Tulsi sub. Tell me, does Hillary pay a bonus if you perpetuate her "Russian Operative" hoax?
Tulsi Gabbard like like Nikki Haley lurk in the shadows until there's an election an then pop out standing on third base like they hit a triple.
Hey, look at me I'm relevant...☹
Very apt analogy! I'd love a penny for the number of times Tulsi has intentionally misrepresented herself, her service (she broke the law campaigning in unfirm BTW, a very big no-no in a Democracy) and her relationship with the Democratic Party.
Well, their favorite one is how credible and stand-up she is because she resigned her position as Vice Chair of the DNC in 2016 to support Bernie, positioning it as if she was a critical decision-maker at the DNC and dropped a powerful, influential role. It's largely just a title, like being on the committee at an NGO Annual Gala or Dinner.
You know what's funny. I pay close attention to national politics and I just looked up DNC leadership. I had no idea that Henry R. Muñoz III and Senator Tammy Duckworth were current vice chairs. I looked up what they do and it's just some general description. Only person I ever see or hear from about the DNC is Jaime Harrison. So any of these people that want to pretend they know what was going on or what Tulsi did at the DNC at the time is just flat out lying. So yeah, you're right. lol. I hope I can be assistant mod to one of the mods one day here to feel important!
Who? That's all 98% of the public are going to ask. Who?
The self-deception here continues to grow. Keep thinking memes ever swayed a single Electoral College vote. And if they did, that this would mean anything to anyone outside of the miniscule Venn Diagram sub-culture that is the remnants of Tulsi's base.
jstohler@reddit
Loki: “sorry, who?”
Sad_Acanthaceae3683@reddit
Trees defending the ax 🤡
TheHammer987@reddit
Remember the last time she won the presidency?
Me neither.
Tulsi is a sideshow guys. She has some insights, but she isn't going to swing the election.
Remy0507@reddit
It's hilarious to me that they actually think she matters, lol. No one who isn't already voting for Trump gives a shit about her.
diogenesthehopeful@reddit
From personal experience I'm more concerned with the democratic supporters who think Kamala having republican staffers doesn't matter what they are buying into. When it comes to the $ both parties have been the same since 1980 but the democrat supporters are under they delusion that we will be so better off if the dems are in charge. That is debatable.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I can't speak for 80s, 90s, and early 2000s, but the current Democrats are nowhere close to the same as Republicans. Stop this both sides mess 😂.
diogenesthehopeful@reddit
~~Do some fucking research!~~ You've got internet access. You can use it if you choose to use it.
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/25/ralph-nader-the-democrats-are-unable-to-defend-the-u-s-from-the-most-vicious-republican-party-in-history/
I was around when the democrats fought for the people. We had a strong middle class when the dems had our back, but everything changed when Cliniton became potus. I watched Nader fight in Congress for us. I voted for Nader twice after the fact. Have you ever heard of Glass Stegall and Gramm Leach Bliley? I suppose the fact that you actually care about what is happening is better than some folks. I guess I need to take a break.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
2017 is current? 😂
Remy0507@reddit
I don't think it's debatable at all. We've already seen what Trump will do, and what he tried to do, and what the people who support him want to do. The Democrats may just be more politics as usual, or they might actually throw a bone to some progressive causes (as the selection of Tim Walz potentially points to). Either of those options are vastly superior to another Trump administration.
diogenesthehopeful@reddit
I'll grant you superiority. "vastly superior" is a stretch because nuclear holocaust is on the table because of Biden. There won't be any "normal" if that madman triggers a nuclear exchange. Hopefully Harris will be more sane than Biden but it didn't look that way on the 2020 debate stage. She appeared just as dictatorial as Trump did. She has no respect for the US constitution and Biden told her that in some many words on the debate stage. I'm guessing you missed that part but Harris is terrifying for people with a watchful eye. Both she or Trump could set off a civil war. I can't understand why anybody would vote for either of them.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Care to tell us what exactly the President that withdrew troops from a 20 year war, hasn't sent troops to Ukraine or the Middle East has brought us close to a nuclear war situation?
diogenesthehopeful@reddit
I just posted a link from the magazine by the council on foreign relations that forcast what Biden intended to do before he was elected it says:
You can read the rest here if you like but it is there in writing as of 2018 what Biden planned to do.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russia-fsu/2017-12-05/how-stand-kremlin
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Was Joe Biden President in 2018? Yes or no.
Remy0507@reddit
I think you may have drank the Kool-Aid, my friend. The nuclear holocaust thing is fear-mongering, plain and simple. What has Biden done to put that "on the table"? By aiding Ukraine? What's the alternative, just let Putin do whatever he wants because he has nukes? What happens when he invades a NATO country next and we're obligated by treaty to intervene directly?
I am very confident that no running for office or currently holding office in this country wants a nuclear exchange, and understands what that would mean. I really don't think that even Putin wants that. Nuclear war is not the most pressing concern in this election.
diogenesthehopeful@reddit
I take it you weren't around in the 1960s when the threat of nuclear war still seemed possible. Hopefully you are correct and Putin has more nukes than the US because he doesn't actually believe that he needs them.
Talk about kool aid? I'm guessing you believe Putin starting all of this. Yeah just keep on watching MSNBC and CNN and maybe they will keep you informed.
Remy0507@reddit
Oh Lord...part of my brain is morbidly curious and wants to hear what you have to say about what ACTUALLY started the situation in Ukraine, but then part of my brain is screaming at me not to engage. I should probably listen to the latter part, but I'm not going to (which I'll probably regret). So please...tell me who DID start all of this?
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I swear for as much as they tell us we get ALL of our info from CNN and MSNBC for false info id love to know where they get their correct info from.
I haven't watched CNN since they did a Trump town hall and let him lie the entire time. Even before then I didn't watch as much because they switched their lineups and started drifting to the both sides rhetoric.
Zazierx@reddit
For real lol, there's a reason she hasn't held office since 2021.
serpicowasright@reddit
Ok neck beard 👍
Confident-Skin-6462@reddit
lol
tulsi the moscow mule
trump can have her
veedizzle@reddit
MAGA is reaching levels of cringe that surpass Hilary 2016. They’re so cooked lmao
PMmeNothingTY@reddit
Afraid of what lmao. Most americans haven't heard of tulsi or just know her as running a failed campaign 4 years ago. And many of those that do know her don't support her anymore because of her flip to the right.
antrod117@reddit
You mean when she mopped the floor with Kamala
PMmeNothingTY@reddit
Yeah man she dominated so hard that 4 years later she had to abandon her original platform to stump for the other side with no true support base.
Remy0507@reddit
You mean when she came at her with a bunch of misleading attacks that Kamala didn't have time to properly address (and probably didn't know what she was specifically referring to since Tulsi didn't provide a lot of details in her attack).
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/aug/01/were-tulsi-gabbards-attacks-kamala-harris-record-c/
antrod117@reddit
Yeah and Harris choked up and had no rebuttal. Then dropped out before Iowa. Strong leader that Kamala
WotTheHellDamnGuy@reddit
Who's about to be President of the US and who is not?
Three guesses for you and the first two don't count! (Starts with a K...)
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Tulsi is good at that. I will give her that much. Say things with such conviction that you think it's true lol.
Remy0507@reddit
Yeah, she sounds really sincere when she talks about how close we are to being on the verge of nuclear war. 🙄
Ibo-Naw@reddit
During the primaries, whenever she got to the forign policy stuff I always just rolled my eyes.
Remy0507@reddit
How often did you hear her frame herself as a foremost expert on the subject because of that false alarm about an incoming missile strike in Hawaii back in 2018? She rolled that story out ALL the time.
WotTheHellDamnGuy@reddit
She can see Alaska from her front porch.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
She almost said it as much as right wingers say woke.
I guess I'm an expert because I hid in the closet during a tornado warning. 😂
WontDeleteAgainMaybe@reddit
Yet she still fared better than the default DEI VP who is now likely president despite never even winning a delegate let alone a state on her own in two election cycles.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
What's up with the racist dogwhistle?
HASHTHRASH@reddit
These are Tulsi’s new homies now that she supports Trump
WontDeleteAgainMaybe@reddit
Why is it a racist dogwhistle? Did Biden not choose Kamala as VP despite no popularity because he had said in a speech he would choose a woman of color as his VP? Or is that something people are ignoring?
Ibo-Naw@reddit
He did not say that. Joe Biden interviewed several candidates for VP: Susan Rice, Elizabeth Warren, Gretchen Whitmer, Tammy Baldwin, Karen Bass, Keisha Lance Bottoms, Val Demings, Tammy Duckworth, Maggie Hassan, Amy Klobuchar, Michelle Lujan Grisham, and Gina Raimondo. How many of these are women of color?
Even if he did say that, does that mean he's going to select someone who dropped out of high school and has no political experience as his VP, or will he research qualified Black women and then select the most qualified?
I know you right-wingers somehow like to think it’s not possible for non-white people to be recognized for their accomplishments rather than their skin color, but maybe one day you’ll grow up. Calling a Black woman, especially an accomplished one, a DEI hire is a racist dog whistle because it dismisses her qualifications and reduces her to a token based on her race. What makes you think it's okay to call a Black woman who most likely is more accomplished career wise than you (or any regardless of accomplishments) a DEI hire?
myadvicegetsmebeaten@reddit
Looking it up, I see that more than 200 former Bush, McCain and Romney staffers endorse Harris.
This is just another indicator that today's Democrat party is closer to establishment republicans and Trump is to establishment republicans.
Which is why pretty it anyone who believes in traditional liberal values should avoid todays' DNC
sayzitlikeitis@reddit
Today's Democrat as well as Republicrat parties both support an establishment republican agenda. Let's not kid ourselves that Trump is coming to shake the system up, especially not this time. He's bringing a whole new swamp of Republican ghouls with him and his sole focus is on escaping jail and winning in 2028 by simply asking for more votes.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Can you please tell us what Republican agenda the Biden administration is supporting. I'd love to know these specifics. Please cite some sources.
sayzitlikeitis@reddit
Biden’s Israel policy is to the right of Reagen. He rejected two peace deals in Ukraine.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Could you read my comment again please?
sayzitlikeitis@reddit
Specifics cited. Sources you can find yourself, this is all well known.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
You didn't address my comment at all. lol.
DunoCO@reddit
Most people don't know that this is a meme, but I do, and I just want to say that it's very funny 😄
zombierapture@reddit
200 former Bush, McCain and Romney staffers endorse Harris.--- that seems like a negative
lTheElementalFlowl@reddit
They should look at how McCain treated enlisted military people. He treated them like shit, he really looked down on them. Mitt Romney is paid by the left. Why do you think Mitt and Nancy Pelosi are 2 of the richest senators? Bush used fear mongering to start a war and lied to the American people.
CJ4700@reddit
I flew McCain and Hillary on VIP flights as a 47 pilot, and I can confirm McCain was a fucking asshole whereas Hillary handed out coins, took photos, and bullshitted with us. I was really disappointed too because I’d looked up to McCain before this but I heard it was pretty common behavior from other aviation units.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Nancy Pelosi has never been a Senator a day in her life.
myadvicegetsmebeaten@reddit
It is for me. Seeing Obama follow Bush's policies was what made me stop supporting the Democrats.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
What specific Bush policies did former President Obama follow?
myadvicegetsmebeaten@reddit
He retained the same bailout team on the finance side, which led to similar policies. He was even more in Wall Street's pocket than Bush with Treasury chief appointments like Rubin.
The too big to jail, and not jailing anyone for the tons of criminal activities that went around the 2008 meltdown was the biggest mistake anyone made IMHO.
He retained the same military team, including retaining Robert Gates and the same military policies, just run more incompetently as the whiffs around the Iraq Status of Forces Agreement showed. Under Bush day move-on was running ads calling General Petraeus "General Betray-us", and under Obama he kept getting promoted higher and higher, despite failures such as the Afghan surge.
The neocons retained power in the foreign policy, which meant Obama not only continued the illegal wars under Bush, he started his own illegal war in Libya - which landed up not only destabilizing the Middle - East, it also destabilized Europe with the resulting refugee crisis.
On torture, the only change was instead of the US directly performing it, the US outsourced torture to its allies.
On NSA spying, he went well beyond what even Bush did.
I could go on for a while, but how is this even a question?
Ibo-Naw@reddit
A lot of what you're saying is misleading. For instance, Rubin was appointed by Clinton, not Bush, and while he advised Obama, he was not directly responsible for policies. The war in Libya was legally sanctioned by the UN, and Obama did not start it.
Regarding policy changes, Obama enacted significant reforms like Dodd-Frank, the Affordable Care Act, and to the Patriot Act. He signed the Paris Agreement. It's more accurate to say he adapted rather than fully followed Bush's policies.
myadvicegetsmebeaten@reddit
The UN mandate was not for regime change. The UN resolution allowed only the enforcement of a no-flight zone for the Libyan Air Force
By the time the US and NATO were bombing the heck out of the Libyan Army in Sirte, there was no pretense of a fig leaf, something Hillary rubbed in with her infamous we came, we saw, he died.
Fair enough. That was not hope and change was it?
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Facts are facts—Obama didn’t start the war in Libya, so it’s important to get that right. As for “hope and change,” there were limits given the political realities, such as the party's control of Congress for only two out of his eight years. The ACA, for instance, represents significant change for millions of Americans who previously lacked healthcare, myself included.
myadvicegetsmebeaten@reddit
Facts are facts. If you want to be technical - It was a civil war. France wanted it, but did not have the logistics to carry it out. Obama made it a US / NATO war. A blatantly illegal involvement which blew well past the UN mandate and one pushed on lies as the British parliament report confirmed.
And an incredibly stupid one as he fought it on the side of Islamic terrorists who were even worse than Gaddafi.
I said he followed Bushes policies, not that he did not make new bad ones in addition to it.
The political realities is cope for the hope and change. My I have a pen and I intend to use it, never let it deter him from doing blatantly partisan things like DACA.
His even more incompetent version of Romney care was garbage sold on yet some more lies.
This led to the majority of private insurance becoming high deductible insurance, which adversely affects far more millions, myself included. The paperwork also further diminished the drive of doctors to actually listen and treat patients.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I'm not reading all that. I'm sure it's full of your typical dribble, but I hope you're ok today.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
You really here saying misleading things nonstop. Republicans today aren't anywhere close to traditional liberal values lol. Overturning Roe v. Wade and supporting restrictive voting laws is the epitome of traditional liberalism. And who wouldn't love a party that champions tariffs and trade barriers while pushing for fewer civil liberties and protections? It's hilarious to think that the Democratic Party, with its focus on social equality and environmental concerns, somehow resembles establishment Republicans.
MSK165@reddit
And?! They’re just proving Trump’s point that “the system” is rigged against ordinary Americans.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
You taking the advice of a man that attempted to overturn an election?
MSK165@reddit
No
WotTheHellDamnGuy@reddit
Sure seems like it.
felixthewug_03@reddit
Please go outside. Touch some grass. Anything.
ParatusPlayerOne@reddit
Wrong. This is an indicator that Trump is a lunatic and a threat to our nation. Go and read why those people are not supporting the republican candidate.
felixthewug_03@reddit
Yeah I don't know what the other people on this thread are smoking. If 200 Republicans (including former staffers) are supporting the other candidate that is just not a good look.
All Trump can brag about is what? RFK and Tulsi Gabbard? That's it? Alright.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
This man's own former vice president isn't supporting him and yet somehow these people think he's fit for the office 😂.
felixthewug_03@reddit
He had to get a new vice his supporters wanted Pence to be hanged 😭 And Trump threw him under the bus because he did the right thing and accepted the election results.
And these tulsi/trumpers think that's just dandy and acceptable? Insane. Absolutely insane.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
I don't know what goes on over there on Earth 2, but I don't want any parts of it. They're a different breed of human.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
No, that's not the case at all. These people aren't supporting Trump and doing whatever it takes to make sure he's not voted back into office. Y'all can keep your heads in the sand about Trump, but he is an actual threat to our democracy.
CheckersSpeech@reddit (OP)
Wow, the Dems must be nervous, since they have all their shills monitoring the Tulsi sub. Tell me, does Hillary pay a bonus if you perpetuate her "Russian Operative" hoax?
WotTheHellDamnGuy@reddit
Oh god, this made my morning! Yup HillaryBot #2859-6209 checking in here, I got my orders from Hillary HQ and I am dutifully posting.
Thanks, man, I think I need a cigarette!
Ibo-Naw@reddit
The fact that you think the DNC is worried about a sub with 14k people, imma need you to go make love to some fresh grass to get you back to reality.
beavis617@reddit
Tulsi Gabbard like like Nikki Haley lurk in the shadows until there's an election an then pop out standing on third base like they hit a triple. Hey, look at me I'm relevant...☹
WotTheHellDamnGuy@reddit
Very apt analogy! I'd love a penny for the number of times Tulsi has intentionally misrepresented herself, her service (she broke the law campaigning in unfirm BTW, a very big no-no in a Democracy) and her relationship with the Democratic Party.
We called all this from a mile away in 2020.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
Do tell more about this misrepresentation. I have never served and according to a few of the folks here that means I can't talk about it.
WotTheHellDamnGuy@reddit
Well, their favorite one is how credible and stand-up she is because she resigned her position as Vice Chair of the DNC in 2016 to support Bernie, positioning it as if she was a critical decision-maker at the DNC and dropped a powerful, influential role. It's largely just a title, like being on the committee at an NGO Annual Gala or Dinner.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
You know what's funny. I pay close attention to national politics and I just looked up DNC leadership. I had no idea that Henry R. Muñoz III and Senator Tammy Duckworth were current vice chairs. I looked up what they do and it's just some general description. Only person I ever see or hear from about the DNC is Jaime Harrison. So any of these people that want to pretend they know what was going on or what Tulsi did at the DNC at the time is just flat out lying. So yeah, you're right. lol. I hope I can be assistant mod to one of the mods one day here to feel important!
WotTheHellDamnGuy@reddit
Dare to dream!
msmind@reddit
Hell yeah! Tulsi is a warrior.
WotTheHellDamnGuy@reddit
Who? That's all 98% of the public are going to ask. Who?
The self-deception here continues to grow. Keep thinking memes ever swayed a single Electoral College vote. And if they did, that this would mean anything to anyone outside of the miniscule Venn Diagram sub-culture that is the remnants of Tulsi's base.
swetnaste@reddit
I thought Trump had enough Russian assets on his team already?
Myspace203260@reddit
Far Right?
https://youtu.be/gG6UcVaQZYI?si=UpPRSb1bReMTyhoB
Remy0507@reddit
This isn't the flex you think it is.
EBW42@reddit
It absolutely is