So ran in to a bit of a... issue.. with my 13th gen i5 which i bought in January and thankfully amazon was willing to take it back along with the motherboard but i only had 7 days to send it, que me overthinking the subject for nearly the whole week before going down to the opening day of the Miami microcenter and getting my same motherboard but AM5 and a 7800x3d for 35 dollar difference once my refund came in. I considered my self damn lucky everything worked out so well. MSI MAG b650 and a 7800x3d from a MSI MAG z790 and i5-13600k and a 4070 super FE

Now when it comes gaming i expected a massive!!.....1-10 FPS difference in most of the games i play which is exactly what i got cyberpunk 2077 gained about 1 fps and was actual lower in some areas. RDR2 did see a 10-30 fps increase. and world of warcraft when sitting in town got another 10-20 fps increase. not counting the games where it really helps like in most competitive shooters, but overall about what i expected which in gaming 1440p is nearly no change at all. Now what was a change was the temps, the i5-13600k with a contact frame and a Air cooler would idle around 33-38C and while running around night city (cyberpunk 2077) would climb up to 80-84C on average. the 7800x3d with contact frame and Air cooler idles around 50c and climbs to 55c when interacting with Chrome (will get to that). and while gaming i see anywhere between 65c-75c but can rise to 80c ish if alt tabing while gaming. I don't know the significance of the difference in temps consdering both were operating about 10c from starting to thermal throttle 100°C on the i5-13600k and 89°C on the 7800x3d. that said it felt like when running cyberpunk 2077 on my i5-13600k i FELT the heating being pushed out by my fans yet i feel mostly cool air exiting my pc on the 7800x3d regardless of how hot it seeming got, not sure what to make of that

https://imgur.com/k6HvyFo pic from cyberpunk 7800x3d on 4070 super. tempts in benchmark are very different from in game.

example i5-13600k 4070 super https://imgur.com/ztRcSVI 60c

example 7800x3d 4070 super https://imgur.com/kojyWc5 60c

in benchmarks nearly the same performance about what i expected, when i was building my pc back in january the 7800x3d was way outside my budget for a 4070 super card since the i5 was 288 and the 7800x3d was nearly 400ish at the time. the i6-13600k was the better buy if you weren't getting a 3D chip.

Anyway, The real area i was concerned about when switching from the i5-13600k to the 7800x3d was as a desktop the i5 was the stronger chip, not productivity but ease of use of desktop, opening crome tabs, alt tabbing in games to look something up or use discord that sort of thing. and yes there was a difference not necessarily slower at most a few seconds but rather as one of those people, someone who leaves 60 chrome tabs open at a time and will routinely save 30 tabs and open them all at once. was it any slower? by a few seconds maybe but the real difference i noticed is the 50c idle temp jumping to 65-70c and my fans ramping up as if i just started loading a demanding game. which was a bit of a shock for me because the i5-13600k never even noticed when i routinely did the same thing, the temps only ever went up in games or if i was running cinebench. meanwhile installing a large program can also cause the temps to rise on the 7800x3d. they quicky climb back down but it was still a big surprise to see temps rise so easily from opening chrome tabs, did it effect performance? no not far as i can tell but i guess that's a example of the intel E-COREs actual doing something in comparison. while writing this temp is sitting at 55c

So my primary concern was that switching to the Ryzen chip with less cores would effect my easy of use as a deck top, and i guess technical it did, but being a few seconds slower at most in terms of installing programs, using a web browsers or unpacking isn't really a problem consdering its a much stronger gaming CPU on a platform that will get at least one more CPU in its lifespan. Don't know if this will help anyone never thought i would be forced to switch CPUs so suddenly.