[Handgun] CENTURY ARMS AP5-P 9MM 5.75" 30+1, $1049.99 + free shipping. Threaded Barrel, sling, one magazine.

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Kermut@reddit

AP5: Full sized Turkish MP5 clone with three lug barrel AP5-P: Compact (K) variant of MP5 with three lug barrel AP5-m: Compact (K) variant of MP5 with flush barrel Buy the AP5 if you want a MP5a2/3 clone, or the one *most* people prefer. Buy the AP5-p if you want to LARP suppressed, and buy the AP5-m because PSA is selling them for $900 again. Thanks for listening to my TED talk. Hit me up if you want to know what parts to replace. I have both the AP5 and AP5-p with a few thousand rounds at this point.

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

Do you have any brace suggestions for the AP5-P?

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pinego123@reddit

This is what is used on mine until I SBR it. https://atlanticfirearms.com/sbt5k-pistol-stabilizing-brace

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

That’s the one I was looking at! Been researching some online, some people say the way it rests in the pins it can have some malfunctions unless you file a little bit of material off.

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simple_human@reddit

Can confirm, just file it away, it’s super easy, file until hammer strut marks go away, shoot it, check it. idk it affected function but it made it easier to take the brace off/on for cleaning.

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

Well one’s in the mail for me, paid $113 for it total

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Kermut@reddit

I don't, I sort of assumed everyone uses the SB brace already linked. I SBR'd both my AP5 and AP5-P shortly after purchase. For the AP5-P I'm rocking the compact version of the choate stock and the OEM HK vert grip. I'm pretty happy with this setup. https://hkparts.net/all-parts/choate-mp5k-sp89-sp5k-9mm-tactical-folding-stock/ Also make sure to buy the brace that is compatible with the -K, due to frame differences stocks are not swappable between the full size and -K.

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

Yessir! Thank you!

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CannaChemistry@reddit

Are there 1/2x28 threads under the tri lug or is that permanent?

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Kermut@reddit

Tri lug is permanent, but there is a sleeve that covers 1/2x28 threads that extends past the tri lug if you want to use that as a direct mount option

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Golemofsteel@reddit

What parts do I need to replace to SBR and suppress a -P model? I've heard you should swap out the angle of the locking piece and get a new extractor spring, but I'm not sure what else

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Winnah9000@reddit

You don't have to. Test it with 147gr subs suppressed for one or two mags, if you don't see roller bumps you don't need the 80 degree locking piece. If you do see them or you run full auto, you need the 80 degree piece. Get extra extractors and springs for any MP5 you buy, just cause they wear out naturally.

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M16iata@reddit

By the time you see roller bumps on the gun the damage has been done A [35 dollar part](https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/RCM-MP5K-PDW-SP5K-LOCKING-PIECE-28-80-DEGREE-p4508.htm) is a cheap insurance instead of a new gun

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Winnah9000@reddit

I've never seen anyone say the damage is catastrophic if you see it and fix it (not continue running hundreds of rounds). It shouldn't need a new gun if you catch them early on and they can occur over time from the recoil spring just wearing out. It's $35, plus shipping, plus possibly rollers plus shipping again (which you can't order until you measure the bolt gap, which you need to buy feeler gauges for), plus possibly the roller plate if you break it (like I did the first time replacing my rollers), etc etc. Cost can easily spiral here *shrug* And that's assuming your gun runs with the 80 degree cause mine doesn't, only worked with the 90 degree and +2 rollers. The only reason I didn't stick to the 100 degree is cause full auto runs too fast for the gun when suppressed on 147s.

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ShittyTechnical@reddit

Comment about the K being better suppressed is definitely debatable as the full sized is just going to be quieter. It just depends on what your goal is for the gun and on what suppressor you’re running with it.

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Kermut@reddit

Not saying the K is better suppressed than the full size, but that if you want to rock a K suppressed you need the P rather than the M. The LARP comment was aimed more at the -K in and of itself, for people that want to run it on a sling or whatever. Again I have both and enjoy both so it’s not really a judgement thing, get whatever floats your boat. Tho anecdotally and from personal experience the -K models tend to be a bit more finicky.

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ShittyTechnical@reddit

Got it, makes sense. Which of the two do you prefer? I’d assume the full size since you said the k is finicky but I could be wrong.

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Phenryiv1@reddit

I have both m, and both are registered on a Form 1. Before I did the Form 1 I preferred the the full size with a short B5 angled foregrip, but with the -P now as an SBR and sporting a VFG I like the -P slightly better.

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Kermut@reddit

Full sized, just because it’s the Goldilocks size for me but not really that much larger than the -K, has slightly better accessories availability, and seems a tad bit less temperamental. But both are great guns

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DonArgueWithMe@reddit

I got the full size a couple months ago and still frequently need to remind myself I don't need a compact

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thekidwhobeleived@reddit

What parts to replace for the AP5-P?

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hruebsj3i6nunwp29@reddit

I bought an AP5, they cut the mag release slot too low and caused the mags to wiggle and cause some feeding issues. Can't really fix it yourself.

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Kermut@reddit

Did you try sending it back to century? I tried that with my AP5-p when it wouldn’t cycle. Tbh they didn’t fix shit and I ended up replacing all of the parts myself, but for a problem with the sheet metal maybe you would have better luck

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hruebsj3i6nunwp29@reddit

I sent it to dakotatactical for an SD conversion, they're gonna fix it with the conversion.

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Kermut@reddit

Oh shit that’s awesome, how much did that run you? I didn’t realize anyone did that

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hruebsj3i6nunwp29@reddit

2000 for the conversion

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Kermut@reddit

First off if it runs out of the box, nothing. If it doesn’t run, * OEM HK extractor spring ~$10 * OEM HK extractor claw ~$60 * OEM HK ejector lever ~$20 * OEM HK ejector spring ~$10 The extractor spring alone will probably fix your issues, but on the off chance it doesn’t might as well replace the claw at the same time since you are stuck replacing the spring each time you take it off. Idk why but MKE can’t make a $0.20 spring for the life of them. Prices are from memory but are probably more nowadays. HKparts is where I purchased mine but there are other sellers

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Bourbon-neat-@reddit

To add to this. CLEAN THAT BITCH. If mine was representative of how they normally come from the factory they're absolutely *grimy* inside with tons of grit and junk in them. Tear them all the way down, deep clean em, lube em. And run 500 rounds of hot or at least NATO spec 9mm down the tube to break them in. My AP5 has not had a single malfunction with any ammo I've used and even with aftermarket AC Unity extended mags.

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ElectricBullet@reddit

So there is no full size AP5 without tri-lug?

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Bourbon-neat-@reddit

Just throwing in my 2 cents to say the full size AP5 is also very nice to shoot suppressed, while still being quite handy.

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thehighsman0503@reddit

Ok but for suppressed. Go full size or k? Which is better

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Kermut@reddit

I’m still saving for a DA wolfman so I haven’t shot suppressed yet. From lurking on the forums I’ve heard for the -K you should replace the locking piece with an 80 degree one. I doubt it’s expensive. So again whichever one you prefer

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Xpmonkey@reddit

What parts need replacing?

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torchredzo6@reddit

Throw the .40/10mm extractor spring on the "k".

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camper19@reddit

Made me look

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Ultimaxzero@reddit

FMITGA. I just bought that PTR 9CT deal a few weeks ago

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dae_giovanni@reddit

lolol, _someone's_ an early Sandler fan... I still use FMITGA way too often

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Ultimaxzero@reddit

Lol don’t make me come out of the toll booth

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Apprehensive_Toe8250@reddit

My snake was all fucking drunk.

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Takemepoqhs@reddit

I’m right here with you. Stocks,stamp, optic mount, optic, [not enough] mags, honeymoon. Now this? I needed a few more pay periods to recover. What’s the G in your acronym? I always say “FMITA” or “FMA” and my wife hates it.

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Ultimaxzero@reddit

Goat, just borrowing vernacular from Gen z

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Dunwall@reddit

What does FMITGA mean? Just curious.

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92foxcoupe@reddit

F me in the goat ass. It's from an old Adam Sandler skit.

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Crashing_Machines@reddit

Shit, he fuckin whizzed that thing

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Dunwall@reddit

ha. thanks for the clarification.

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roosteragain@reddit

Fuck me in the goat ass lol

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roosteragain@reddit

Oh nice spiral. You fucking wizzed that thing

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Common_Nerve6056@reddit

Same. The question is do we need a K now?

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Ultimaxzero@reddit

I believe so my friend.

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382hp@reddit

why is that bad

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Ultimaxzero@reddit

Only because now I want this one too.

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

Good news for you: you don’t need to feel bad because the deal isn’t for the full sized clone, it’s for the K clone.

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aBlasvader@reddit

Have a full size but wish I had the P. Full size with the Rad 45 makes the thing pretty big. I feel like I’m handling an AR15.

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Dmte@reddit

I have the P and I do agree that the compact package, even with a somewhat bigger suppressor is exactly why I got it. I SBR'd it and with a folding stock from JMAC it's super duper small. It's also far and away my favorite gun that just runs flawlessly. I would still really like a full size, even though on paper it's basically competing with my piston upper AR in terms of size. I would buy it just for the looks because that classic MP5A2 look is amazing.

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Abs_so_Glutely@reddit

Thanks god it went OOS I dont need anymore debt

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

https://atlanticfirearms.com/century-ap5-p-HG6035A-N $1094+$30 shipping, no sales tax outside MD.

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CannaChemistry@reddit

How is century quality vs the ptr clone?

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

My understanding is that quality differences are negligible. PTR is American made not made on HK tools and machines, century is Turkish made on HK machines, tools, and licensing. I do think that PTR can be out of spec of some HK accessories, but they are still quality made. PTR is much more expensive right now, even though their models have gone down to $999 in price due to greater competition in the market. Keep in mind, this is what I have gathered from watching YouTube videos and reading reddit posts, so I don’t exactly have the qualifications to say.

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aTip4You@reddit

Do these have lrho?

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

Nope, no 9mm MP5(k)s do

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TheMoves@reddit

Some of the most fun you can have for $1k

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Berry_Micockiner@reddit

Please Lord John Moses Browning, Give me strength to resist the temptation

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

You don’t *need* health insurance this month, do you?

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Silver_Sun_2097@reddit

Accidently shoots leg

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Echo_Raptor@reddit

Bro you pay $1000 for health insurance?

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

I’m assuming he has at least *some* money laying around…

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Hangry_Heart@reddit

If you think this sub ends with your wallet full, you haven't been paying attention

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LegalDrugDeaIer@reddit

I wouldn’t. This with a 9mm suppressor is chefs kiss

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Hexrax7@reddit

Are you fucking kidding me. I’ve been asking for this thing at 1080 for two weeks and I miss the deal

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

Rough, marked as oos

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Hexrax7@reddit

Don’t worry I grabbed it at Atlantic with no sales tax. Came out to 1124

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

Nice! I did the math, if your sales tax is less than 7% then FGE was better, else, Atlantic was the way to go

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DATzzRIGHT@reddit

There’s one on Atlantic firearms for 1094

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Hexrax7@reddit

I’ve been watching Atlantic for weeks even emailed them if they would ever offer it at 1080 again. Atlantic has no sales tax for me so I just grabbed it thanks 😎

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DATzzRIGHT@reddit

Yeah of course! I’ve almost grabbed it a few times but I know as soon as I get one I’ll get a suppressor, then other things and that $1100 turns into $3000 haha

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Hexrax7@reddit

I always tell myself I’ll take it slow and build it out over time. Within a month I’m sure it’ll have be two stamped LMAO

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jaqrabbitslim@reddit

One of my favorite guns. Get one. Only issue I’ve ever had is sometimes flat nosed subs won’t feed the last round.

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

Honestly that’s a small malfunction, would still use for home defense if I had that problem.

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Mkilbride@reddit

No no...it's not a real MP5... resist.

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Potential_Reality300@reddit

Imagine not having a front pin on a cucked HK. Couldn't be me

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BiggyIrons@reddit

It’s 85% as good for 1/3rd the cost. I’m 3k rounds into my and it’s been a dream. The only malfunctions I’ve had are user induced. Also the SP5/MP5 don’t typically like flat nose and mine runs flat nose just fine, but YMMV

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SoL4vish@reddit

My zf-5 will run truncated and flat nose stuff but every now and then the last round will get smashed by the bolt going forward.

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

You will never get a real mp5 unless you have tens of thousands of dollars laying around

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Mkilbride@reddit

Well I mean you can get like a H&K one for 2600-3000$ sometimes I see.

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TheTaxStampCollectr@reddit

So 2k for a clone as well?

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

But you see, those are SP5s, not MP5s

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Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit

I may be tripping but this exact deal is $12 cheaper shipped on https://atlanticfirearms.com/ap5-p-core-HG6035AL-N

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mimetek@reddit

Thanks for posting that. The one in the OP is out of stock, but I grabbed the one you linked.

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Hexrax7@reddit

Same boat here been looking at Atlantic for weeks and they finally drop price once I stop looking haha

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

Update: if your sales tax is less than 7%, go with Atlantic. Else, go with FGE. Thank you for pointing this out!

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

Hmm, looks like it depends on your state’s sales tax.

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Jack_Mehoff3@reddit

Anyone think these will eventually see prices below $900?

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DonArgueWithMe@reddit

Probably, eventually. But do you want to wait for a few years and possibly have turkey's economy recover to have them go up in price?

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Jack_Mehoff3@reddit

It may be worth the risk. I’ve already got a full size ZF-5 but a shorty AP5 is tempting to add to the collection. $900 or less would be optimal price range. I’ve seen the non-threaded model go for $899 in the past.

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DonArgueWithMe@reddit

As long as you've got 1 you can be more patient, I was assuming it was your first. Prices seem to have been pretty steady for the last year or two, but I hope that the extra competition from zenith will eventually push the price lower

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M_Betty@reddit

Website says out of stock. Which one of you animals do I have to thank

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-Theorii@reddit

Surely this is a BIN moment

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Fancy_Exchange_9821@reddit

Cheaper on https://atlanticfirearms.com/ap5-p-core-HG6035AL-N

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-Theorii@reddit

Total cost factoring shipping is cheaper through Florida exchange

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DonArgueWithMe@reddit

Gunprime has also had great deals on these for months. I got the full size with a backpack and bunch of goodies for about this

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

Entirely dependent on your sales tax. In some states that’s more expensive. If your sales tax is less than 7%, go with Atlantic. Else, go with FGE.

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tsarcasm@reddit

These have been 1100 at Atlantic forever now. I think the sling is a new addition to the CORE package tho

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nukey18mon@reddit (OP)

I know I just did lmao

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Numerous-Ad6460@reddit

Boy if the ap5 was that price....

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Crash_Ntome@reddit

Will you get one that runs right outta the box or one that needs… some tweaking? Roll the dice, baby!

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f2020tohell@reddit

Most I’ve seen people have to do is swap $20 worth of extractor springs to make their gun 100% reliable if they have problems with it

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CallsignFlorida@reddit

It’s the first time FGE has ever had an average gundeals price

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MrBogardus@reddit

I about tripped that it was hk

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