i hope i'm not watching someone kill themselves

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LowOilPressure@reddit

Them Mooney guys fly different. Don't worry about them.

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Fly_U2_the_sunset@reddit

Funny, you should say that. The only guy that I knew in my entire life who owned Mooney said above 2000 feet he got scared. Spent a lifetime running down problems on Texas oil pipelines.

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AvailableCondition79@reddit

Why are Mooney good for low flight? Wouldnt you want a high wing?

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Raven-734@reddit

A high wing is normally preferred for low level flight, mainly for increased visibility as well as more stable at slow speeds.

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Old-Caterpillar6590@reddit

Except nearly every single agricultural aircraft is a low wing… low wing is preferred because you don’t lose as much visibility in the turns.

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Raven-734@reddit

You could argue that but also civil air patrol aircraft and search and rescue planes are all high-wing for improved ground visibility.

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ImmaPilotMeow@reddit

Mooneys are incredibly efficient the higher they get. The turbo M20’s have excellent cruise performance in the flight levels. Horrible training platform. Great cross country machines.

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They aren't. They're known for being traveling airplanes - fuel efficient (160 KTAS @ 12 gph) and a solid IFR platform. They aren't noted for maneuverability, downward visibility, or short/soft field performance. So, I don't know what this dude is talking about. But there are a lot of strange people in aviation.

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Granite_burner@reddit

That’s terrible. 8 gph is more like it.

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Final_Winter7524@reddit

They’re not bush planes, but I fly a Mooney from a 1600 ft strip. At 1500 ft above sea level. And at MTOW. I think that’s pretty short.

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TheOriginalJBones@reddit

That is indeed pretty short.

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TealPotato@reddit

Which model?

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AvailableCondition79@reddit

Heyyy thanks for the sensible response!

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Dogmanscott63@reddit

150 at 1200 feet today coming out of Marysville...but seriously they are good at a lot of altitudes

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Darianezion@reddit

Not related at all but, I fly out of McClellan, always fun to find a local pilot out in the internet wild.

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utopiec@reddit

O61 !

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Dogmanscott63@reddit

My plane is at LHM and I teach at AUN. Always like hearing from other locals

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eboymcelroy@reddit

KCIC here until I ran out of money

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Dananddog@reddit

Planning to start my training at KGOO so hey

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0O00OO0OO0O0O00O0O0O@reddit

KCPU here

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Fly_U2_the_sunset@reddit

I honestly have no clue…

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saf3ty_3rd@reddit

When did you work for Eagle Sky?

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Fly_U2_the_sunset@reddit

I Knew this pilot as a friend in the early 2000’s may he RIP. His home and airstrip are next to the highway and I shit you not a 1200’ tower on the north end. Guy wires and all. We took off to the north one day with a first timer in the right seat. He was sh**’n his pants for sure. Pilot looked at me like he was enjoying it! His son was flying 747’s for UPS back then. Had a Russian Yak he used to fun fly up near me. I would catch him from my back yard at about 4 or 5000, doing aileron rolls over and over in a relaxed spiral. Did not fall far from the tree 🌳. Good air to you all.

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Rare_Art_9541@reddit

What a hell of a job I wish I had

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NiceGuyUncle@reddit

I had a guy come in for a landing but botched it and went too long so requested right closed, took it about 1500 feet down the runway at maybe 30’ agl and pulled closed like a fuckin fighter, it about gave me a heart attack. The mooney guys are different for sure.

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Mispelled-This@reddit

I flew with a Mooniac once. His idea of a short approach was awe-inspiring. And a little underwear-browning too.

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argueOnTheInterweb@reddit

Yeah, "botched" it. Haha!

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Cocaine4You@reddit

Right lmfao guy definitely says that once a week

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No-Engineering-1449@reddit

Door spike pilots.

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PutOptions@reddit

I keep reading about the fog at this place. Gotta admire the persistence of this poor bastard. 3 strikes I am diverting. Or maybe just one.

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BrosenkranzKeef@reddit

Three strikes? Yikes. In a jet we go once and call it unless conditions are evolving quickly.

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Odd_Variation@reddit

Because you are dispatched with just enough fuel to do so. A Mooney on a weekend hamburger run can be either a similar fuel load (Missed, try again, divert+45 minutes) or shoot the approach all day because they have literally 5 hours of fuel at economy setting.

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Mispelled-This@reddit

5 hours? Max endurance in a Mooney at sea level is 7-8 hours with standard tanks. The fuel efficiency is amazing.

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Odd_Variation@reddit

I was ball parking low for a full tank start hamburger run across a state, but yes the point still is that GA planes generally have better endurance to do approach after approach in comparison to jets in a 135/121 environment. Hell even 91 that's the case.

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assingfortrouble@reddit

There's no instrument approach, so you're basically going to have to wait until the fog/clouds clear or divert. KLLR isn't too far away and tends to have better weather.

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SecondChance03@reddit

This post has got me looking at Shelter Cove and now I'm intrigued. There is just a shitty muni golf course running around the airport? Incredible

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Idc94@reddit

Shelter cove has to be my favorite place to fly into! It’s a whole experience! Fly in, play some shitty golf, eat some pizza, and fly home.

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WIDSTND@reddit

Based on that review, you go for the pizza and maybe play golf.

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bjornbard@reddit

Also people walking their dogs on taxiways

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Dogmanscott63@reddit

You can camp at the airport, or stay in one of the hotels. But if you are going look for high pressure out to the coast pushing the fog away. There is no fuel so plan for that.

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jtyson1991@reddit

KDRM too. Golf carts on the runway!

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2k1tj@reddit

Put in Bay would like to have a word.

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johncuyle@reddit

Interesting that the description says it’s an M20K but the picture is an M20E with a J windshield mod.

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oshnn7@reddit

A Cirrus pilot could have popped the chute and made it in. Though flying it out might have been problematic.

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This-Current-7366@reddit

Sohum, stand up

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crshbndct@reddit

Might be, it’s the anniversary of that other guy.

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LigmaChineseNuts@reddit

Any update?

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0oodruidoo0@reddit

Made it

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BrosenkranzKeef@reddit

His bad planning and decisions worked which means he’s likely to do it again. GA is full of morons.

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FuckMu@reddit

posting here so I check back eventually as well

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audigex@reddit

Made it in safely

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zdsweet@reddit

Probably just some influencer doing low water flying for the clout lmfao

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provia@reddit (OP)

I'm happening to look at Shelter Cove \[0Q5\] at the moment. This guy flew up there from SoCal two hours ago and has been trying to get in ever since he got there. He diverted to Garberville for an hour, and is currently trying to scud run/ water land/ whatever. Descending as low as 25ft above the water. What do you think is going on?

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old_flying_fart@reddit

Upon further reflection - his tracks go right over the runway. Think he was trying to blow the fog off?

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Smartnership@reddit

Has anyone definitively proved you can’t?

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old_flying_fart@reddit

Planes just don't move that much air. You need to be able to see the runway get your alignment right and not hit the surface, and if you can see the runway well enough to fly over it at 50'...well I hope you can figure out what to do next.

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old_flying_fart@reddit

I think you nailed it. He's under the layer, but the runway is \*in\* the layer. I don't know his girlfriend, but her \*\*\* must be radioactive for him to try that shit to get there. Scary stuff.

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Ok-Stomach-@reddit

Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams should do a romcom playing this Mooney pilot chasing true love in fog, with McAdams crying/screaming at the ocean while Gosling slowly descended into the waves, call it the Logbook,

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csl512@reddit

Ryan Gosling increasingly exasperated, "State your intentions"

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bigred1717@reddit

Rachel McAdams: “*cries* UNABLE!”

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Ok-Stomach-@reddit

Later NTSB concluded that cause of crash was due to inability to effective communicate between sexes and recommended that “men are from mars women are from venus” be part of all pilot training curriculum

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csl512@reddit

not sure if this is better as read by Mentour or who else

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Smartnership@reddit

Make it a magic fog and Nicolas Sparks it.

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SoyMurcielago@reddit

And then he can visit the assembly line and see it brand new

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Su-37_Terminator@reddit

even brand new it'll still fail the annual lmao

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_Gizmo_@reddit

Shelter Cove can have fog/clouds above the runway one minute and not much longer later they are totally gone.

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---midnight_rain---@reddit

25' could easily = 100'

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provia@reddit (OP)

50ft ish is how low the fog usually hangs over there - so i'm pretty certain that's what he's been doing this at

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DeMizio@reddit

Why does the vertical stabilizer look backwards?

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N40189@reddit

Ease of production. The vertical and horizontal stabilizers are all the same shape. The skin can be made by a single piece of aluminum and is interchangeable.

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Mispelled-This@reddit

Mooney thing, gives more rudder authority at high AOA.

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Sharp_Experience_104@reddit

A Mooney thing

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DBond2062@reddit

Because that looks faster.

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jimbojsb@reddit

Because it’s a Mooney

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Final_Winter7524@reddit

Can’t tell from the screenshot what time of day it is. If it’s early morning, I’m diverting. If it’s afternoon, I’m diverting. If it’s late morning and I have fuel, I’m going sightseeing for an hour and then try again.

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phliar@reddit

Fog over the CA coast is pretty low today.... Maybe they have a hot date lined up, but a taxi from Garberville would be prudent.

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provia@reddit (OP)

last time i got stuck there were no taxis to or from garberville, but even if, this doesn't seem to be the reasonable type of person

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bjornbard@reddit

I landed there in foggy conditions - basically would have been an SVFR/Contact approach if it was controlled. Departed on IFR plan pretty much straight out, but we had our life jackets handy. Spot the runway: [https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/f2Jt1ulYhjaMtH9oFXVIESAlxNPBYkckVd0mhvCd5Rk](https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/f2Jt1ulYhjaMtH9oFXVIESAlxNPBYkckVd0mhvCd5Rk) [https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/wRkB4mTAW8Vu7UPSRq5XhCFPzKkt6ixCHh9Qco4H1rF](https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/wRkB4mTAW8Vu7UPSRq5XhCFPzKkt6ixCHh9Qco4H1rF)

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citori421@reddit

When I lived in arcata and had like more than half my flights out of mckinleyville canceled, I was told that airport was specifically built to be in the foggiest place they could find, for training ww2 pilots to fly in shitty conditions. Job well done I guess

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Obvious-Hunt19@reddit

pucker factor: fairly high

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provia@reddit (OP)

Yeah that’ll be a no from me dawg Too many trees/ buildings/ etc pp for non precision Add that it’s single engine On the pacific coast Nope nope nope nope

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flyin_lynx@reddit

Fog was in and out all morning at Shelter Cove. On the deck, very sparse but persistent. This guy was just doing laps praying for the fog to break. Interesting thing is he made it in though. And shortly after this the fog broke and it was a sunny afternoon.

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