Ryzen 7 7800X3D and RTX 4080 Super - bad idea?
Posted by Gravenrath@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 32 comments
Hi everyone,
I am looking to build my first ever PC and I am thinking about going bigger than I first thought because why not.
However, due to my inexperience I especially want to make sure my CPU doesn't hold my GPU back in this setting. I don't do much stuff on my PC other than gaming and (a very limited amount of) browsing the internet.
This setup may seem a bit GPU-heavy but does this work for mainly gaming and some browsing, Office functions and some miscellaneous stuff? I am not into programming and/or rendering, which seem to be the more CPU-heavy functions.
Please let me know what you think about my setup or if I should change it in any way. None of the parts have been bought yet so the whole thing may change depending on how badly this entire thing fits together :P
| Type | Item | Price |
|---|---|---|
| CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor | $366.83 @ Amazon |
| CPU Cooler | ENDORFY Fortis 5 ARGB CPU Cooler | $81.50 @ MemoryC |
| Motherboard | MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard | $169.99 @ B&H |
| Memory | Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory | $101.22 @ Amazon |
| Storage | Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive | $111.93 @ Amazon |
| Video Card | Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card | $1029.99 @ Amazon |
| Case | Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case | $109.99 @ B&H |
| Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $114.90 @ Amazon |
| Operating System | Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit | $199.00 @ Newegg |
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
| Total | $2285.35 | |
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-08 10:23 EDT-0400 |
Ripe-Avocado-12@reddit
You're buying the best gaming cpu's on the market.
If you make reasonable decisions when buying pc parts, it will work fine. Buying a high end cpu gaming cpu and a high end gpu will work fine together. Bottlenecking is not as bad of an issue as you may have read it is online.
BURGUNDYandBLUE@reddit
Random question. I've got the 7 7800x3d with a 4080. However, my PC barely uses more than 20-30 percent of the cpu, when the gpu is fully utilized. I am not noticing much of an impact on my system from the 7800x3d alone. I went from an i9 9900k. The graphics card seems to be the only thing making any difference. Is it normal for the cpu to be that underutilized in games when the gpu is not?
Ripe-Avocado-12@reddit
yes, that means you are GPU bound. Your CPU is powerful enough that its currently not needing to output its full performance. For gaming this is the situation you ideally want to be in.
You want the most powerful GPU you can get, then a cpu that can let it do it's thing. This is why it's dumb to pair a 4090 with an i3 or significantly older hardware.
BURGUNDYandBLUE@reddit
Ahhh okay. If i really wanted to get everything out of it, I'd need a more powerful card? Essentially, I have kithing to worry about. I am running a 4k setup with a 4080. My frames aren't suffering. Just making sure the 7800x3d is doing it's job. Thanks!
lycoloco@reddit
I'm really impressed that the two of you are having a conversation in a thread months later that I'm also finding today, and they're having a really good time of it.
It sounds like with this CPU there won't be a game that's so taxing on the graphics card that it will push the CPU heavily, so you might actually be able to just throw a new graphics card in there in 2 to 3 years and basically get a brand new system. I'm really considering this combination given what might happen geopolitically in the next year, and that doesn't seem like a bad choice
BURGUNDYandBLUE@reddit
Holy heck, I was going for such a system! I didn't realise I had achieved it in such a way. I thought I'd need a new cpu in 2-3 years. Looks like I'll be flipping the card instead. I was honestly worried I did something wrong with the way the cpu was "performing". Turns out 4k gaming prioritizes your graphics card. Who knew?
I was also looking geopolitically, and wanted a machine that could be a workhorse for the next 3-5 years with minimal upgrades.
I was impressed sir (or sirette) above replied same day on a months old thread. Love this community.
lycoloco@reddit
Yeah, sounds like a good plan! I've got a 2080 Ti + Ryzen 5 3600x system I built in 2020 (placed the order literally days before USA went into lockdown), and it's still kicking at 1440p/144hz monitor (but not always 144 FPS 😂).
I'm so glad I found this thread, as it pushed me to make this build I'd been considering for a while. Turns out a 4 year cadence is pretty great for builds!
BURGUNDYandBLUE@reddit
It's where I left my last build tbh. Afformentioned 3080 + i9 9900k. Was planning the same thing at the time. I don't wanna let her go 😢. Chefs kiss into the future. Anyways lol
lycoloco@reddit
You don't have to get rid of it necessarily, unless you do you need it to fund the new build, but I just pulled out my 2014 gaming system and ended up repurposing it for self-hosted services, so you never know what an old rig might do for you
BURGUNDYandBLUE@reddit
That sounds cool. I'm not quite that savy, and easier planning on selling the pc as a whole, or copping g the components at a user discount.
FallenAngelII@reddit
Hey, it's probably way too late now and you've most likely alreasy built your computer, but Windows 11 is a free upgrade from Windows 10, which in turn was a free upgrade from Windows 8.
You can buy a Windows 8 key and use it for Windows 11 just fine and you can create Windows 11 installlation media with a USB stick and a free official tool from Microsoft.
I jusr upgraded to Windows 11 using my ancient Windows 8 key.
GonstroCZ@reddit
you are asking whether best gaming CPU on the world can handle 4080S... (of course it can)
Gravenrath@reddit (OP)
Thank you for your input! Didn't know the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU... So from a gaming perspective any upgrade to a Ryzen 9 (or any Intel i7/i9) wouldn't make sense at all? For other purposes this is more than sufficient, too - right?
battler624@reddit
from a gaming perspective those are downgrades not upgrades.
the 7800X3D IS the best gaming cpu, anything else is a downgrade.
Gravenrath@reddit (OP)
That's wild from a marketing perspective - but lucky me I guess :)
ImahWario@reddit
The chips with higher numbers are not fit gaming, they're better for CPU intensive productivity, the x3d part is the bit that indicates it's for gaming. At done point din there will be a 9800x3d that will outperform the 7800x3d but obviously we don't know by how much and at what price point
GonstroCZ@reddit
Ryzen 9 x3D cpu would make sense, if you wanna build PC for both work and gaming, thats why it might be confusing for you
battler624@reddit
Still worse than a single CCD solution just incase the schedular fucks up.
Ofcourse you can solve this using process lasso or by manually assigning the cores but its too much of a hassle.
thebitternectar@reddit
7800X3D works best for gaming because all cores use the 3D V cache.
While even the more expensive cpu like 9950x3D is best of both worlds for both gaming & work but it’s not the best in gaming.
GonstroCZ@reddit
yes, you dont have to worry about anything and switching to different CPU doesnt make sense now, by the end of the years we should have Ryzen 7 9800x3D, but you dont need to worry about any game breaking performance upgrade, yes it will be better but 7800x3D will be great. I myself plan to get Ryzen 5700x3D and stick to it for couple of years
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IDubCityI@reddit
We now live in a world where a brand new modern cpu “holds the gpu back”
edgygothteen69@reddit
It's good, I have the same combo. It's the best GAMING CPU with the second best gaming GPU, the only way to improve would be a 4090 so you can't say this is a bad idea
Masteries@reddit
Depends on how fast you wanna do that build, but you could wait for the 9000 cpu-series and the 5000 gpu series
ahritina@reddit
9000 series of CPUs won't be better than the 7800x3D in gaming.
The X3D could/should but that's not being released any time soon.
Masteries@reddit
The x3D versions wont be that far off.... maybe gonna release together with the 5090
Gravenrath@reddit (OP)
The 5000 GPU series are making this decision waaay harder than it should be. But can I wait the additional few (2?3?4?) months haha
ahritina@reddit
CPU/GPU combo is fine, you could do with slightly faster ram though i.e 6000 CL 30.
Naerven@reddit
The r7-7800x3d is the top gaming GPU in existence. If it did bottleneck something there is absolutely nothing faster.
I_Love_Jank@reddit
Yeah, the 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU bar none - even the new Ryzen 9000 series CPUs that just came out don't beat it in gaming. You have nothing to worry about.
Get faster memory - DDR5-6000 CL30 is the sweet spot for the 7800X3D. A lower CL number is better.
Gravenrath@reddit (OP)
Oh well forget about the prices as well, PCPartPicker only seems to generate them from U.S. data