I think that would also be a [separate federal crime](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/351) that can fetch life imprisonment or even the death penalty.
Disagree. The elderly have much more current value than children. Yes, a child has more potential but the elderly have much more wisdom and knowledge that we lose. They've developed strong bonds with people in their lives and have likely made an impact on the world in some way, where a child has not.
I can just fuck again and have a replacement to the child that has died in however many years old they were plus 9 months. But to replace grandma I'm gonna have to get a little weirder with the science and, to my knowledge, it wouldn't be possible to recreate her.
Basically, a world full of elderly would run better than a world full of children. Therefor the elderly have more value. Hell we used to have 12 kids just so 2 could survive, they're expendable.
No, as you said, elderly already have made their impact to the world, now they are just sitting in retirement homes waiting to die. While a young person has still a whole life to go, where they can still work and maybe have a big impact on the world. I think that the value of a human life to society is here and this will get lost if they get murdered young.
And the child has made no impact and is replaceable. Their VORP (value over replacement) isn’t very high. Meaning any 2 year old has the same net impact and not much more of an impact than another new kid. Killing an old person is like burning the library of Alexandria
No, what I ment is that an old person is likely to die within a few years, so all the stories of the library will soon be gone anyways. If they are really that valuable you should copy them.
But what’s more interesting, a library that is mostly empty but gets a new book every day or one that is already filled with books that most have already been red by other people
Your post was automatically removed because it contains political content, which is off-topic for /r/CrazyIdeas. Please review the subreddit rules and guidelines.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CrazyIdeas) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Well forcing someone to 100 years of imprisonment is not very different from sentencing them to death. So it is implicit in op’s reasoning that the life of a young person is worth more than the life of an old person. I merely specified that in addition to age some may want to take into account other variables including the importance of the victim to society.
Your post was automatically removed because it contains political content, which is off-topic for /r/CrazyIdeas. Please review the subreddit rules and guidelines.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CrazyIdeas) if you have any questions or concerns.*
That's probably because no non pol sub wants any pol in it and that word is as pol as it gets... unless you're talking abouq certain brand of cheese.
Ironic that my original comment was removed because I said the name of the cheese brand.
As for your worry, the OP said the word murder.
Your post was automatically removed because it contains political content, which is off-topic for /r/CrazyIdeas. Please review the subreddit rules and guidelines.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CrazyIdeas) if you have any questions or concerns.*
idk kinda puts a value on human life. killing a 2 year old vs an 80 year old is one thing, but how are you going to compare a 30 year old and a 40 year old
What if the 30 year old is a sedentary smoker and the 40 year old is a long distance runner? Which one will live longer? or make it even murder What if the 30 is a convicted criminal and the 40 year old is a firefighter hero? etc etc
Well since I'm the 30 year old convicted criminal sedentary smoker, I choose that option as the one that lives longer.
But no, I don't think it's a good idea. And I'm not really fitting that description.
That's something that is already done in civil law. If you lose a wrongful death suit the payout is calculated by the victims expected lifetime income. You pay a lot more if you caused the death of a lawyer than a janitor.
So how do they calculate that? Or is it just vibes? Like are they analyzing the life as a whole to estimate life expectancy? For example, if there is a normal weight janitor and an obese janitor, would it be less for the obese janitor? Do they consider that the normal weight janitor is a smoker while the obese one isn't? Or is it like a ballpark figure to be considered in the rest of the judgement?
It's based on lifetime earning potential. A 40 year old janitor can be expected to work for another 25 years. They work out what salary they would earn over that time. There are usually punitive damages on top of that as well. There are a lot of factors that go into it and the courts have ways of assessing it. I'm not an expert on the subject so I can't answer specifically how it is calculated.
Your post was automatically removed because it contains political content, which is off-topic for /r/CrazyIdeas. Please review the subreddit rules and guidelines.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CrazyIdeas) if you have any questions or concerns.*
You want to know how much value you can extract from their life's work, but subtract, how much effort you have to put in.
On a baby there is still a lot of work to do and the outcome is unclear.
There was that kid that killed an innocent 98 year old for fun a couple years ago.
I understand the premise of you what your saying, but there would have to be a minimum sentence for that to make sense. The victims life may have been closer to the end regardless, but him receiving only 2 years for that would have been an injustice.
Yeah dude gtfo out of here with that heinous shit. Can't have a nice hypothetical discussion about elder murder without some psychos hijacking the conversation.
Your post was automatically removed because it contains political content, which is off-topic for /r/CrazyIdeas. Please review the subreddit rules and guidelines.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CrazyIdeas) if you have any questions or concerns.*
100 Comments
Cryzgnik@reddit
afcagroo@reddit
StarChild413@reddit
d20diceman@reddit
geekwalrus@reddit
why_not_fandy@reddit
NukeDC@reddit (OP)
Alkyonios@reddit
LeapIntoInaction@reddit
Made_Human76@reddit
ThaToastman@reddit
poop-machines@reddit
ThaToastman@reddit
nicholas818@reddit
MintPrince8219@reddit
nameyname12345@reddit
88KRCpodcast@reddit
akgamer182@reddit
CovidBorn@reddit
ObnoxiousName_Here@reddit
pragmojo@reddit
Coltello8016@reddit
JoshAnMeisce@reddit
CovidBorn@reddit
Religion_Of_Speed@reddit
rigterw@reddit
Religion_Of_Speed@reddit
rigterw@reddit
Religion_Of_Speed@reddit
rigterw@reddit
razorfox@reddit
takethemoment13@reddit
deleted_by_reddit@reddit
AutoModerator@reddit
razorfox@reddit
deleted_by_reddit@reddit
AutoModerator@reddit
FortWendy69@reddit
razorfox@reddit
Juls317@reddit
LittleDuffy@reddit
rigterw@reddit
DangerousImplication@reddit
ThrobbingPurpleVein@reddit
rigterw@reddit
SteazyAsDropbear@reddit
DangerousImplication@reddit
ThrobbingPurpleVein@reddit
deleted_by_reddit@reddit
AutoModerator@reddit
Eton77@reddit
sgt_salt@reddit
rigterw@reddit
VisceralSardonic@reddit
Riyasumi@reddit
VisceralSardonic@reddit
oshaboy@reddit
skipmyelk@reddit
untamedreverence@reddit
poop-machines@reddit
oozydoozy123@reddit
RedBeardFace@reddit
Kylestache@reddit
CodyTheLearner@reddit
fakeuserisreal@reddit
Kurotan@reddit
Knave7575@reddit
God_like_human@reddit
BusyMap9686@reddit
byteuser@reddit
poop-machines@reddit
RPWPA@reddit
starmartyr@reddit
Religion_Of_Speed@reddit
starmartyr@reddit
MrSeverum@reddit
deleted_by_reddit@reddit
AutoModerator@reddit
tomato_johnson@reddit
onlyasimpleton@reddit
boraspongecatch@reddit
onlyasimpleton@reddit
tomato_johnson@reddit
thefreecat@reddit
Chris714n_8@reddit
Otacon56@reddit
TheGunnMan54@reddit
takethemoment13@reddit
pople8@reddit
iamnogoodatthis@reddit
shadwocorner@reddit
blackdragon1387@reddit
Dayv1d@reddit
jimbobsqrpants@reddit
chucks-wagon@reddit
deleted_by_reddit@reddit
AutoModerator@reddit
A3-2l@reddit
just_a_comment1@reddit
Justthisguy_yaknow@reddit