What does 1% Low and 0.1% Low mean? Seen a lot in these benchmark videos

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Mirakrad@reddit

basically is a measure of the average of the bottom 1% of FPS.

There has to be a better way to say this...

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its called 1% lows, becasue when your game constantly drops to low fps and have stutters and you cant control car, win races or lose in shooters you get angry, betrayed, frustrated. your mood goes to 1% low.

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Signal_Ad_9542@reddit

For me it's missing my 10f punish in Tekken XD

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Jadhsy@reddit

HAHA good one

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Living_Pay_8976@reddit

So a 1% low with 81fps and .1% with 79fps is good with an average around 91?

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PCmaaadman@reddit

yes it means conantly high FPS and little risk of game freezing. this means reliable control all the time.

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Mirakrad@reddit

Yes, that is extremely good

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FekAll666@reddit

You want your low 0.1% and low %1 be as close to average framerate (fps) as possible which means the framerate will be buttery-smooth (game will not stutter).

There is an YT video from 6 years ago by GN that may give you a good idea how to read such: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXepIWi4SgM

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shadowmaking@reddit

well said. It's definitely a far more important number for the gameplay experience than the peak framerates that everyone focuses on.

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PCmaaadman@reddit

Even if you take in account the 1% and 01% lows, there are unexplainable bugs in certain games like forza 5 and crew motorfest, wehre game freezes every 3 seconds, even though your benchmarks show good FPS numbers. So no benchmarks can protect you from shitty game devs and shitty wionndows updates and oS in general or shitty drivers like Adrenalin bloatware.

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A-FROM-THE-SOUTH@reddit

yup, i get 10 fps 0p1% lows for the sims 3 but cyberpunk is stable

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shadowmaking@reddit

That doesn't change that frame rate consistency is more important than max frame rate. Yes, there are other factors that contribute to 1% low benchmarks.

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Jonaswox@reddit

nobody focuses on peak fps , unless ofc they are uninformed.

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BOSCO27@reddit

What should the uninitiated be focused on?

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Jonaswox@reddit

If we are talking competetive high speed gaming: you mainly want to focus 1% low frametimes. Frametimes are better than fps , because the fps is an average per definition. Sure you can extrapolate, but it makes more sense to just look directly at the frametimes.

Take all your frametimes into a "histogram" (from elementary school math) , and now look at the distribution. It is both important to notice - how many frame times are problematic, and what are the worst frametimes ie 1% low. Intuitively it means "frametimes worse than this will only happen 1% of the time". Its rarely helpful to look at the single peak frametime value - so we look at the 1% low to get an idea of the "usual worst case scenario".

For a good fps gaming experience; 1% lows > 120.

For an exquizite 240hz experience; 1% lows > 180-240

For an elite experience worthy of professionals; 1% lows > 240

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For any sort of casual gaming these kinds of numbers rarely make a material difference. I usually set all kinds of casual games to max 120fps. For fps games , actually setting a roof is helpful also. If you run 240hz, theoretically anything above 480 would be ridiculous. So you can easily set a max of 350-400, and this generally avoids the graphics card maxing itself out when its not needed - and doing so constantly leads to higher temps and more potential throttling (if that is an issue in your situation). Same reasoning as to why undervolting is so popular these years - you avoid getting into the area of thermal throttling or is able to run lower fan speeds.

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A-FROM-THE-SOUTH@reddit

HA, and here i am trying to get a smoother experience on the sims 3 getting a measly 10 fps on 0p1% lows

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PCmaaadman@reddit

reading books and socializing with human beings. if you replace human interaction for gaming you will be living on 1% lows all the time sooner or later. dont even start.

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ArmchairPancakeChef@reddit

The 1% low.

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GORK_N_MORK@reddit

Theatricality & deception

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Intelligent-Bus230@reddit

So basically the vast majority focuses on peak fps.

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eliasmarcelin0@reddit

ironic. it's an average. it doesn't mean shit unless you can actually feel a stutter. and at that point it's not the 1% lows but a syncing issue.

take this for example
Stable Framerate and it's okay.
Unstable Framerate and it's better than okay.

frametime will always be more important than anything fps related. fps is just an average

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Technical-Editor-831@reddit

Guys my avg fps is around 170-175 (capped as my screen is 175hz.) However my 1%L hovers around 100-120.

Is this alright?

Why im asking? the game doesnt feel smooth at all. Im not sure if its tearing or actual micro stutters.

Would appreciate it if yall could help, thanks!

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xhale01@reddit

When i cap my frames in valorant to 120fps, which is my refresh rate, I'm seeing 1% lows of around 50FPS, but if i uncap my frames and get 350fps, my 1% lows increase to 200+ does anyone know why this is? shouldn't my 1% lows be 120FPS if I'm not getting frame drops in gameplay? or am i missing something

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nvslando@reddit

did you ever figure this out?

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DK3141@reddit

Imagine this line to be one second.

|____|

If you have an average of 60fps you would put 60 frames in, equally spaced between each other.

| _ | _ | _ | _ | _ | _ | _ |

But the reality is that those spaces, the time to render one frame can vary, looking like this.

| | | | _ _ _ | | _ _ _ | _ |

It will still be 60 frames in one second but the time to render them can result in more frames at the start of a second and fewer at the end. This will result in a less smooth gaming experience.

The more frames you have the less this effect will be noticable.

So for example of 56 percentile fps means that on average 56 frames are rendered with the "correct" frametime of 1/60 second. The rest are either rendered too soon or too late.

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RahimDS@reddit

So 50 fps with 30 1%low fps better or worse than 70 fps with 30 1%

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FrozenBurstG4@reddit

Old post, but the 50 fps with 30 fps as the 1% low is usually better. Because that means when the frames dip, it is only dipping by 20 fps at most. Which can be a lot with how low the fps already is, but it looks a lot smoother than the much larger gap of a 40 fps dip from 70 fps to 30.
The smaller the gap, the less noticeable it will be. You don't notice your fps dipping from 60 to 59, but you most certainly notice it dipping from 60 fps to 20.

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RahimDS@reddit

Understandable , but that's sad honestly because 1% lows are usually bad and also requires msi afterburner to count it not like average fps

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Wonderful-Ant-3307@reddit

rtx4070 super vs rtx5070 i looked at youtube and the rtx5070 had much higher 0,1% low and about similar 1% lows as older gpu....average fps was not much higer then a few fps..

so does that mean that the rtx5070 is running (atleast the 25games shown in video) so much smoother then the older gpu??

its things that would be great to know because its going to be either of these 2 gpus i will have in my new desktop...so how is it with gaming and the 0.1% low exact meaning when it comes to how smooth a game is running..

im pretty tired of my rtx3060 12gb that is running games pretty poorly these days(or well i guess if i lower settings they run better,but i hate doing that)

Thanks

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PiCream@reddit

I'm playing WoW Classic SoD with all settings on max, and the fps is over 200. But the 1% lows are fluctuating from 95 - 200. Seems a big difference.

My system is 9800x3D with 4080 Super Rog Strix OC and 32GB DDR5 6000Mhz with CL32

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Itachixg@reddit

u/PiCream weird thats a big gap .. and you have powerful gpu and cpu better play at 1440p

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deleted_by_reddit@reddit

Very much so.

While I was testing out RT in Doom Eternal on my 3070 at 1080p Ultra I was AVERAGING over 144 fps. However, the 1% lows were below 60 with 0.1% lows around 40 FPS.

The game went from buttery smooth to a stuttering mess.

That being said the 6650xt is much more powerful card. Not sure what game would be that bad, but it isn't normal.

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YuhidOS@reddit

ist bei meinem jetzigen rx 7900xt genauso. Egal welches spiel ich spiele die 1% lows liegen bei 0 Fps (trotz der konstanten 245fps auf 1440p). trotzdem läuft das spiel smooth, ka woran es liegen könnte

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gholamali79@reddit

so does that mean : the higher your fps the smoother your 1% and 0.1% lows? and again does that mean the more optimized the game and the more resources you give the game = smoother and more stable fps without stutters? most games are badly optimized anyway so with medium end hardware you would get stutters even on the lowest settings.

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xaiur@reddit

This is not how percentiles work