ULPT Request: Where can I get fake degrees?

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liloldguy@reddit

Any graphic designer can crank out professional looking degrees (minus the raised seal). It’s really simple.

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The single time I was asked to prove a degree as part of the interview process, they required a request sent to the college and mailed to the employer. There wasn’t an opportunity for the applicant to intercept or submit their own records.

I don't think they ever check themselves. There are companies that do that type of checks for them.

If they check (by checking the university database) and realize your diploma is fake, not only will they obviously rescind the offer, but in some jurisdictions it is a misdemeanor. Google tells me that in South Carolina it's up to $1,000 and a year of jail time.

Then they can add that in their resume

Hi, recruiter here.

Don't waste your time. You're better off saying that you graduated from a diploma mill that's now defunct.

HR or recruiting isn't going to want to see a diploma. Doesn't tell me anything.

I'm either just interested in verifying that you went to school so the background check would verify that. Or I want to see your transcripts for some reason and ask you to provide them.

If the background doesn't come back or you don't provide transcripts, then no job for you.

You're better off trying to fake transcripts if anything.

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Otherwise_Log7549@reddit

job job job

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ImplementComplex8762@reddit

I feel like a diploma mill is worse than having no degree

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Montanabioguy@reddit

Probably the same tbh.

It's like, why go at all?

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Uniquely_limitless84@reddit

What if I stated a associates degree at at a community college, how would I get a fake one?

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Vryk0lakas@reddit

I know it’s way later but question for you. I dropped out right before my senior year to take a decent job and help my family. Would it show up that I dropped out? Or how would it come out?

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Montanabioguy@reddit

In that case there is nothing wrong with putting down the college, the degree focus, any projected graduation date.

You don't have to be currently enrolled. At least, not for my review. You may also say something like how many credits you've obtained or how much longer you have left to go on the degree in your resume.

It shows that you have college.

For some jobs, college is absolutely necessary. For others, It's not as much but is a good bullet point.

College shows two things. One, that you know how to buckle down and get work done to meet deadlines.

Two, it shows that you have technical training in a specific area. Such as for accounting, core sciences, classes on areas of the law, engineering training, etc.

Some professional licenses out there require a college degree per state regulations. Such as to become a licensed surveyor in South Carolina, you must have a college degree in an associated field.

What job are you going for and what was your degree focus? How much college do you have? In other words, at what point did you drop out?

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Vryk0lakas@reddit

Currently I just have the dates attended and the program. I did electrical engineering but was offered one of those executive training programs that put me all over the place at a company. I’d like to parlay some of the B2B sales experience and the engineering, but engineering sales is hard to break into even with a degree from what I am seeing.

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Montanabioguy@reddit

Absolutely.

But right now I will say "Bachelors of Science in Electrical Engineering, South Harmon institute of Technology (in progress)"

Instead of a day, put in progress.

Assuming that you're executive training program only took a year away. More or less doesn't matter. But you can also include that in your education section.

interesting

I was never asked for diploma's while the work that i do and did were heavily required lol but i did had to do some courses to know how the systems work

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whateveriguessthisis@reddit

That link you posted doesn't talk about if the employer pulls the degree themselves only in the case of a potential employee downloading it and then sending it to the company which is obviously extremely easy to fake

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whateveriguessthisis@reddit

They only ever ask you directly if they need the transcript (to check what courses you took and what grades you got) otherwise they can go through an information broker or the school itself as on most of the world where you went school and what degree you received isn't privileged information.

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Augustaplus@reddit

Publishers clearing house has a database of everyone’s transcripts and degrees earned, and it’s routinely checked during background checks

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bigE819@reddit

It’s attended not intended btw

Montanabioguy@reddit

So first thing is first. Don't use easy apply. Here's why. Every company uses some sort of HRIS or ATS. Meaning an HR information system or an applicant tracking system.

When we post a job, on our own company portal/website we ask a bunch of questions that the candidate answers to make our screening easier.

Easy apply leaves a lot of information out and what info remains doesnt port over to our ATS from LinkedIn very well. So we often look at easy apply applications last, if at all.

While most positions say they want a degree, experience usually trumps college. College is great. Especially if it's an engineering degree (due to some licensing requirements).

Real work experience and certifications mean more.

My advice is to go directly to the company website and apply the regular way. Upload your resume with the info and let's the chips fall.

I'm happy to review your resume form you to suggest changes. Normally formatting. Did you know that the average time a recruiter spends reviewing a resume is 7 seconds? You wanna be able to get past that quick scan.

You can say "yes" to college and just say later that you only attended classes but you have the experience. Or you can say no and submit anyway. Again, most places don't care. Especially in IT. Having certs and exp is the way.

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PlywoodSpider@reddit

Don't use easy apply.

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Tallproley@reddit

1) your not that hood a bullshitter if you haven't bullshit your beat into a job.

I've asked previous hiring managers this question, they know ~probably BS. The good news is that they don't particularly care unless you've been unemployed for multiple years.

They are more concerned if you've been fired before.

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CptMuffinator@reddit

HR or recruiting isn't going to want to see a diploma. Doesn't tell me anything.

Good on you for making sure people are qualified! I wish all HR/recruiters were like this.

jhkoenig@reddit

This. Just don’t

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SmurfSmurfton@reddit

you know how to do that friend?

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Depends on what you pay for. Basic checks go from $30-90/per and usually go for all the public records: current and former addresses, arrest records, convictions, tickets, sexual offender databases, or anything you might have gone to court for (like divorce, child custody, etc). Also, if related, professional licenses and certifications. Also college degrees (if you claim it). Some search social media, and some do credit checks although usually one has to pay separate for that. Then there are some that cost quite a bit more that check former employment (via tax records), which might also pull salary, although frankly I have never seen salary pulls actually done. Generally companies scummy enough to pull that don't want to pay extra for it.

Really expensive ones will do drug testing, and while 90% are just urine (most common) and maybe blood (rare), the $1000+ do hair follicle and they don't always pull from your head, either. And if you're 100% bald, that's weird and suspicious unless you can prove alopecia or something.

just manslaughter

We met a gal at a career fair, liked her, her on paper experience was great. Hired her & it was bad from day one.

Something felt off, made her sign a consent to contact the university she claimed to have graduated from, yeah she didn’t graduate.

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suckmydictation@reddit

With a mindset like this just get into sales

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wevie13@reddit

If a potential employer is going go ask that you prove you have a degree, it's going to be official transcripts so it won't really do you any good.

Most don't ask you to prove it though

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ImpressivePraline906@reddit

Look at any Canadian uni

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boryoku@reddit

Nice try Mike Ross

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asclw7643@reddit

I took multiple HR classes in undergrad and grad school and briefly worked in HR, so I would know what to say to get you hired for a job. If you want to shoot US$100 dollars my way, I could be a positive and convincing phone reference for you. I could even coach you on your interview.

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asclw7643@reddit

I can't think of anywhere that would hire someone for six figures and won't investigate their credentials. They might skip over your schooling, if your work history is enough to convince them. But it doesn't sound like you have the work history, if you are focusing on making up the degree rather than past employments.

The only situation in which I could see a fake degree helping is if you have all of the skills that the degree would have provided you with. I've heard of people who had to drop out of college in their senior year due to finances, and later bridging their gap to employment by purchasing a diploma in that field from a degree mill.

If you somehow crack the code on how to get a six-figure job based on a fake degree, please let me know. I won't stop you, if you can do the impossible.

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TrumpsCheetoJizz@reddit

India /s

Seriously though graphic design if yiu can use AI tools.

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mars_carl@reddit

Depends on what country you live in. I lived in Bangkok for a year and I knew a few European guys who got counterfeit degrees so they could get jobs at a bank. The degree was just a general requirement and the bank really just wanted people fluent in English so they didn't look too closely at their diplomas

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KalliopeMuse-ings@reddit

All third party background check folks have a long list of fake universities/diploma mills that is constantly updated. Save your money, buying them won’t pass, sorry.

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chili75@reddit

Tiajuana

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ICanHasBirthday@reddit

Almost any job making six figures will be with an organization that does a simple background check. That check includes checking graduation date and degree.

Ah, yeah, it COULD have gone that way, but didn’t.

I just checked in with the former co-worker who is still friends with him on FB and the holy shit - i only knew HALF the story!

First, this guy was a total arrogant a-hole. No matter what you did, he had a story that one-upped you. He took credit for other people’s work and was just an arrogant prick. And he had a porn stache that absolutely gave off Chester the child mo vibes. Total douche canoe.

So they caught him lying and when confronted, he apparently told a BIGGER lie. He told them that because of his service as a Navy SEAL, his actual college transcript is top secret and he’s not allowed to tell anything about it!

So HR calls a guy in the company who was a SEAL and that guy reaches out to Frogman (no clue who that is) who apparently maintains the database of all SEALs. Nope - no guy with his name was ever a SEAL. They ask him his BUDS class number and he gives a number that is bullshit. So they just fired him on the spot and had security escort him.

He then tried to start a consulting company and had advertising saying he was a Navy SEAL. He got exposed for stolen valor again and ended up declaring bankruptcy, lost his house, his custom order car, all of it.

His wife divorced him and he is living with his son now. They have a landscaping company mowing lawns and plowing snow. His son does all the work and he is the “owner” who works in the office doing “sales”.

So yeah, you would think he could have just quietly gotten a new job off the 22 years of experience (just got corrected on how long he was there) but no - assholes are going asshole.

Well, that just made my whole damn day and it’s only 10 am! Thanks for making me reach out and getting to go on this emotional roller coaster! LOL

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danteselv@reddit

So he lied about his degree, was able to start a family, bought a house and custom order car. Declared bankruptcy to avoid paying any debt he accumulated and now he owns his own company with his son. Sounds like a guy who understands how the world actually works. Compare that to the average person in the US who can barely afford rent let alone ever purchase a home or start a business. The only thing he did wrong was wasting his time working at a place for 20 years hoping to get a promotion instead of simply leveraging previous experience to gain a promotion at a new company.

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ICanHasBirthday@reddit

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real_agent_99@reddit

Fake degrees aren't going to get you a job.

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deathboyuk@reddit

You don't sound smart enough to even realise this isn't a valid route to a 6 figure salary.

Let's make it super simple: If this was anywhere near easy, why are we not ALL making 6 figures?

You're greedy, but you're also dumb. Have you considered politics? Or religion?

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CosmosProcessingUnit@reddit

It's not greed, it's balls. I have worked with many people in tech who are pure idiots, getting as much as the engineers. ESPECIALLY if you're a woman or racially diverse. Just fucking go for it - a few years on a 6 figure salary and all that guilt will melt away...

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deathboyuk@reddit

I've worked in tech the last 25 years and that ain't the picture I've seen.

I'm guessing you mean "not white" and are trying to crowbar in a bit of bigotry for some reason. Sounds bitter.

I mean, I ask the same as I asked OP: so all you need to be is a woman or not white and then troll your dumb ass into a tech job to earn 6figs?

You're actually saying that?

Shitload of people would love to hear this amazing bit of news so they can get out of their dogshit jobs, for real. You're gonna clear out the retail market jobs!

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CosmosProcessingUnit@reddit

Not bitter - in fact you're somewhat correct. I've seen many people get salaries much higher than my own as a white male engineer. Like literally people with 8-week scrum master certifications vs my 7 YEARS of university getting higher salaries with a much easier job. Vast majority being of ethnically, spiritually and sexually diverse background.

You wanna be a bitch about having some dog shit job then whatever go for it, but it's a you problem and as a queer neurodivergent person myself I just don't wanna have to pick up the pieces for people who are just lazy, uncompromising fucks. I'd love to spend all day doing my passions and selling shit on Etsy, but you need to integrate with wider human society or then JUSTIFIABLY face the consequences; or NOT participating in something bigger than yourself and choosing instead to fixate on Pokémon or car tyres or some other worthless shite...

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IHatePeople79@reddit

queer neurodivergent person

I didn't even bother smiling. All I had to do was stick around longer than everyone else and do just enough to make it look like I was productive and reliable. Eventually got promoted into management, then into HR. No special skills, no undue effort, and minimal ass kissing required.

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keepingitrealgowrong@reddit

what if you can't get a different job in time to pay rent?

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CosmosProcessingUnit@reddit

How can't you though? Is it time to move somewhere else? Get a job in a different industry? I just don't see how someone is pinned to flip burgers at McDonalds without having made some seriously bad decisions beforehand. Even if you made those mistakes, well fuck if all you think your capable of (and CHOOSE to pursue) is flipping burgers and cooking fries, then I'm sorry but fuck you for thinking that that was a way to support a life in the ling term.

Two words: background check.

Any place hiring anyone who isn't a family friend for six figures is gonna run one.

LJski@reddit

Going to pile on here....current job required me to have the school send them a transcript directly. Maybe, MAYBE you can get away with a fake degree if you are moving internally, but wouldn't count on it. Jobs that require degrees, especially those that have 6 figures, have a few more safeguards than that.

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ClitClipper@reddit

For all the places that bother to check, there are ton more that can't be bothered. Or maybe they do as official policy, but HR isn't very diligent.

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LJski@reddit

Yeah, but would you want to be looking over your shoulder the whole time?

We had a case where a worker was in the last semester of school, and had an anticipated graduation date of like a month after they would be hired.

For a variety of reasons, he dropped out. It took 7 months, but they were updating their records, and asked for his transcript. They felt it was a lie, and it took a lot to get him a second chance.

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LucysFiesole@reddit

I've never been asked to show my degree. Ever.

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Mr-Zero-Fucks@reddit

Photoshop

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DanteShmivvels@reddit

The Khan academy. Takes a couple months but worth it cos its free

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NtotheVnuts@reddit

Feels like if obtaining a fake degree was what it took to get a 6 figure job then there'd be a significant cottage industry for fake degrees.

Nobody asks to see the degree, they ask to see transcripts.

If you plan on doing this, I recommend only applying to a job that you actually know how to do.

If they ask for transcripts in the hiring process, that will be more difficult to fake. At that point I would just bow out.

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btfoom15@reddit

Nobody asks to see the degree, they ask to see transcripts.

Upper-Tomorrow-5963@reddit

Here's another thing you can do. Do a linkedin search for people that work in the registrar for universities or colleges in your area. Send them messages on Linkedin that you're interested in pursuing that career, and are asking for a few minutes of their time so you can learn about their job in more detail. Offer to take them for coffee/lunch for their time.

When you meet them in person, if there is a professional dialogue, you can ask them for "official transcript" paper that the university uses. So, I did this a few years ago. I met a woman who worked for the registrar at a school - she wanted to get into engineering and was picking my brain for how she should pursue a role. I asked her if i could get a sheet of the paper they use for transcripts with the university seal, and she gave it to me. I never used it, but I have the official paper used for transcripts with the school seal, at a pretty highly regarded university in Massachusetts.

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234anonymous234@reddit

None of what you wrote makes any sense to me.

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Upper-Tomorrow-5963@reddit

It's pretty convoluted and requires a bit of work, so let me break it down:

Find people that work in university registrar offices
Message them on LinkedIn and ask if they're open to sharing their career path with you, because you are interested in that line of work. Offer a lunch or coffee for their time.
Meet them for lunch and coffee.
Develop networking base with them.
Ask them if they can share a copy of the paper used for official transcripts.
Doctor your transcripts from a legitimate university instead of a diploma mill.

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234anonymous234@reddit

Why would they randomly provide you with paper used for official transcripts though? I mean, if you ask for it, and they say “why?” what is your justification.

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Upper-Tomorrow-5963@reddit

When I interacted with the university employee that was looking into making a change towards being an engineer/get a corporate job, I just said I'm curious what an official transcript looks like.

She gave me a blank official transcript paper with the university seal on it. If I ever wanted to show that I went to that school, I could easily doctor it.

Once you meet someone in that role, if you have a conversation, you just ask them. It'll either be a yes or no, but if you're asked why, just say "I've always wondered what it looks like, because I've always only printed my unofficial college record."

Unless you're dealing with someone who is 100% by the book at their job, odds are they'll hook you up.

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Ok-Crow-249@reddit

If you can't figure out how to get a fake degree on your own, you can't figure out how to fake your way through a 6 figure job.

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odds-seller@reddit

It's not illegal to lie on a resume.

Just keep in mind any job you get that way is always in jeopardy. I used to work with a guy who lied on his resume about his education.

When he and his wife were separated and talking divorce, his MIL called our employer and outed him. They checked, he was immediately fired, even though he did decent work.

The he and his wife reconciled. Whoopsie.

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Far_Cupcake_530@reddit

Employers do not ask for a diploma. The universities are all set up with systems to verify when you attended and if you received your degree. Good look with that "medicine" degree!

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saltywater72@reddit

Most employers don’t verify that you actually have a degree. Just lie and wait until you get a company that doesn’t check. That being said, you can legally lie to companies about your qualifications. Except for govt jobs. You’ll get in trouble lying to get one of those.

When you use your degree to get a job, they don't look at the actual diploma. You wouldn't need to fake the piece of paper. You put your degree on your resume and talk about it during the interviews. Then when you get an offer, during the background check they'll make sure you are who you say you are.

If you're lucky, they may ask for unofficial transcripts, which any student can download from the colleges portal at any time. I can't imagine those would be too difficult to fake. However, they will probably ask for official transcripts, which you have to contact the school, and have them send directly to the job without you touching them. The point is that they're supposed to be reliable because the job knows there's no way you even touched them.

They'll probably also call the college to verify dates and degrees. I'm not sure how that process works, but it's probably a pain in the ass being transferred around to multiple different departments until you get the one that can provide that information. Or they might just ask YOU to do it.

If only that were true!

Many, many countries are hyper competitive and have graduates with Bachelor's degrees doing remedial work.

Korea, Japan, India (to mention a few) come to mind where people with quality engineering degrees are not working because there are not enough jobs, or work in customer service or retail.

Latin America is another example, though the quality of the degrees may not hold up to a US university degree, there are still no jobs for the graduates to fill. If they find a job, the pay is often very low.

Europe is a mixed bag. Portugal, Spain, Italy Netherlands, Greece, Croatia etc have very different results when it comes to employing degree holders.

IMHO America offers the most opportunity to earn, including for those with a degree. There seems to be a growing sentiment online of "I work a minimum wage job full-time and can't afford rent, food, and the lifestyle I want. Shouldn't I be able to on minimum wage?"

The answer to this is No.

America has a strong economy built on valuing a person's ability to contribute to the economy. Greater skills equal greater pay. Greater quantities of work equal greater pay. In the US, your value to society and identity is directly tied to your financial contributions through your work. There are more entry points and opportunities to grow and increase earnings than most other countries.

Whether you are on the left or right, neither side will allow the US economy to fail.

What happens when you are old and no longer contributing to the workforce? You have less value. How is your quality of life while grinding away for years? Not great and it may shorten your lifespan and working years. But there is most certainly greater opportunity in the US, and while there will be some degree holders working a low end job, it is a significantly lower percentage than other countries, if not comparable.

America is a fantastic place to make money. As someone else said "Living the American dream for most is now outside the US." Earn USD, retire elsewhere.

Can confirm that the only A that counts at Yale is found between the Y and the L. And the hardest part of joining the elite when you weren’t born or raised into it is living with the fact that the elites comprise literally the worst people on earth.

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dickcheneymademoney@reddit

heard he was a murderer of a coach. google george o leary killed to learn more

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riftwave77@reddit

I went to Georgia Tech where O'Leary coached before this debacle. The Georgia Tech Athletic Association 100% knew that O'Leary had lied about his credentials.... they just didn't care because his job was to win football games and make the alumni happy.

It was only after he quit his job with no notice and tried to get on with Notre Dame that news of his fraud was 'mysteriously' revealed. Not all jobs check references..... jobs with a state institution that are public facing (and broadcast nationally) and have total compensation of 1.1 million dollars per year get checked and rechecked for things that might blow up in people's faces.

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hash303@reddit

Nobody cares about seeing your diploma, they just do a background check on you. Anyone can print a diploma

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kgkuntryluvr@reddit

I’ve worked many jobs and have only been asked for proof of education once in my life. My current government job never even asked. I’m kind of disappointed because I could’ve said I had a PhD and have people introduce me as Dr during presentations. I feel like people have fewer doubts and ask less questions when they’re listening to a doctor speak lol

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Try pharmaceuticals in like QC or QA. I have never been asked for my degree or proof of degree ever. I assume bigger company’s are more likely but even at my last big company they did not ask for proof. WHATSOEVER

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MissAsshole@reddit

Chatgp

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IHateNoobs420@reddit

I ordered one on darknet many years ago and it's authentic as it can be. Got shipped from USA all the way to Europe and I paid 50 USD in Bitcoin back then.

So a degree won’t land you six figures. It gets your foot in the door. Obtaining the six figures depends on if you can fake it till you make it or you’re actually bright and adapt.

Pick your field. Choose the recommended certs and degree and make it from a non prestigious school for best luck.

6 figures, you can bet they at least background check and verify history with a few phone calls though.

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symbol1994@reddit

The company I work for in pharmaceutical industry made over 12b last Quater.

The ceo, who retired this year, but has ran the co many the last decade had a fake PhD lol. The whole company knows. He never got in trouble cause he's high enough up no one dare call him on it.

Makes 28m a year the cunt.

Not sure of your situation but no degree will get you 6 figures without experience and a shit ton of knowledge in that area.

If you have that and finding better work is an issue, do what I do and check that I have a degree and then type "Equivalent Experience" my major. Gets me through the ATS's at least and my resume looked at.

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RadioAdam@reddit

Literally no one has ever asked for my diploma

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Murder_1337@reddit

People are offering services here for fake certs I thinj

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GirlStiletto@reddit

Probably anyplace but University of Phoenix.

If they deal with anything that has to be kept secure, and chances are that for 6 figures they do, there's a third-party vendor who secures all of that.

My workplace fired someone (provisional hire) who had a skimpy trade school degree but no hs diploma. They worked a couple hundred miles from the hs, and even after (allegedly) going back to get a copy of the diploma in person, they still couldn't provide it.

Fired for falsifying the application, and barred from reemployment. To be fair, it was also pretty clear they'd lied about their job skills and experience based on their work product.

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m0h1tkumaar@reddit

Barkley University Pakistan

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/18/world/asia/fake-diplomas-real-cash-pakistani-company-axact-reaps-millions-columbiana-barkley.html

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Juggzi@reddit

You’ll end up in prison. You’ll have to lie to your mates on the chain gang about buried treasure to convince them to help you break out. You shall see a... a cow... on the roof of a cotton house, ha. And, oh, so many startlements. I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the obstacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward. Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation.

Oh and you’ll end up recording a kick ass song at a radio station and become an overnight sensation

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somethingdouchey@reddit

Trump University

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Aldeboron256@reddit

Be careful with this. Depending on the your country/state if in the US, it could be illegal. I live in the US in Tennessee and it's illegal here (I had the same idea 🫠)

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New_Decision_3146@reddit

If you’re going to pretend to have a degree that you don’t actually have, I would recommend picking a granting university the employer cannot contact. This could be one that is now defunct, or it could be one abroad. If the one abroad is sufficiently difficult to verify, they’ll ask you for a transcript, which you can forge. The date you earned the degree needs to be older than the last item on the background check if it’s abroad, because your work history and degree will be so far apart as to be mutually exclusive.

If you know a language that isn’t commonly spoken where you live, this could be easier. In that case, look for universities in a country that speaks that language, and attempt to call the registrar to verify the degree. Speak only the language used where you live when you call, and pick a university where it’s impossible for you to verify.

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