I'm still pissed about Chris Cornell. Dude was completely clean, releasing solo album after solo album, Soundgarden was touring again, Audioslave was about to get back together, he still had his voice and a lot of talent to give, and then bam, dead in a hotel from fucking prescription pills.
I'm just glad I got to see Soundgarden love a few times before he died.
Cobain was sold by Sub Pop as THE mantle-bearer of what the 90s was going to sound like, and dude simply couldn't handle the pressure of being commoditized.
Didn't they say that his Lorazepam had major side effects and contributed to his death? I recall his wife being in a lawsuit against the pharma company.
My crazy mom insists it was the deep state that had him killed because him and Eddie Vedder were going to out Hollywood and big government officials for being pedos. I wish I was making this up.
Her one piece of evidence is the lyrics of Hunger Strike, she interprets them as Chris and Eddie being brought into the circle of rich elites and actors but they refused to partake in the pedo stuff.
Hunger Strike was one of their earliest works. I don't think they were that famous and rich back then to get "being brought into the circle of rich elites". Yeah, your mom's craycray.
My mom is the same way. I'm not really sure how much thinking they're actually doing to come to these conclusions, I think they watch too much conspiracy stuff
For some reason, like half the celebrities that died between 2017 and 2019 got caught up in this same rumor. Anthony Bourdain, Chester Bennington, Avicii, and Kate Spade off the top of my head. It's always, "they were working on a documentary," but it doesn't really make sense.
Nirvana was so much more commercially viable, and got way more airtime as a result. I remember in high school everyone knew Nirvana even if they were into rap or techno, whereas only people that were specifically into grunge type rock knew Alice in Chains. I don't think there was a single song on the radio by AiC where I'm from while Staley was alive, but Nirvana was just song after song.
Nobody puts morphine in a speed ball. Or takes it with heroin. If he did, it’s because he had it laying around and figured why tf not. Speedballs aren’t that crazy amongst people who do drugs. I smoke meth and fentanyl together and still go to work and take care of business.
No offense bro, but the way you speak about severely addicted drug addicts doesn't track with my experience of them. These aren't logical beings. Different opiates also give different highs, it isn't just one standard feeling intensified. Combining them might give the addict more of a "full spectrum" high. Chief Keef was caught with morphine, codeine, hydrocodone, norcodeine, dihydrocodeine and hydromorphone in his system once, he was a global superstar with the resources to get however much of whatever he wanted, why wasn't he only taking the strongest one?
With all due respect, these are drug addicts and your most recent post on reddit is titled "A study request: Ocean acidifcation and warming increasing toxic plankton or algae blooms in the near future. This in turn causes the air to become toxic. Can anyone help me find this?". These people do not think like you.
Morphine and heroin are so similar they may as well be the same drug. It's not like oxy which gives a stimulating high.
It doesn't make sense to mix morphine and diamorphine at all. What do you mean these people do not think like me? I think you're making a lot of assumptions about what kind of person a drug addict is, and you're wrong for thinking that way.
We are talking about very far gone drug addicts here. Not drug addicts. Everything I've said about #severly addicted drug addicts is absolutely true#. There are people whose live hasn't been consumed by the process of getting high that swear eating the stem from a weed flower gives you a different high. Getting high by itself is a very ritualistic process with all sorts of placebo effects and idiosyncrasies. This black/white logical thinking simply doesn't reflect reality. Far gone drug addicts would absolutely mix the two.
I am not proud of it, but I have used every drug we have discussed. I know there's no reason to use heroin with morphine, it doesn't add anything at all. Heroin and morphine feel the same. It's not like cocaine Vs meth.
Shrooms Vs shrooms from a different place feels more different than heroin Vs morphine.
For speedballs, nobody is adding morphine unless they ran out of heroin, and even then it makes little sense since morphine is more expensive.
Far gone drug addicts definitely wouldn't mix the two because they only use what's best for their money. There's no reason they'd use morphine when heroin is cheaper and stronger.
Again, I don't appreciate you judging drug addicts. Acting like they can't be interested in the climate or science. Most addicts look normal. The ones you meet on the street are often addicts with serious psychiatric problems. You wouldn't usually see the normal addict, and if you did, you would never expect them to be an addict.
My friend, you have obviously done a lot of drugs and understand how they work. There are also a lot of people out there that have done a lot more drugs and do not have the faintest idea how they work. I have seen these people. I have seen how they live. I have seen how they operate. I have never spoke about addicts as a monolith, I have said that there is a specific type of addict that absolutely would mix them. They exist. You can't erase their existence here by denying it anymore than I can deny the existence of functional addicts. These people exist.
I agree there's plenty of addicts who are idiots, and don't have a clue how their drugs work or how to use them semi-safely.
But it only takes using morphine once to realise it's bad. Usually you buy it for oral use, and it's bioavailability is laughable when taken this way. I think even the dumb addicts would avoid it. Even the dumbest of the dumb know how it feels, even if they don't know how it works. Even IV morphine is more expensive and weaker, so it feels worse, and costs more, even with the more efficient ROA.
Truthfully speedballs with morphine would only be done by people scared of heroin, before they switched to heroin. Addicts would use heroin.
I will say, however, that this will be changing. Becasuse of Nitrazines and fentanyl in heroin, people may start switching to morphine because they believe that it's safer (and honestly they're right). The USA has had a fentanyl problem for a while, but the afghan crackdown on heroin is causing the rest of the world to switch to other opiates like nitrazines. Although most samples in the UK don't contain it, it's not effectively monitored and it seems to be on the rise. This could mean that, in the future, speedballs contain morphine more and more. But like I said, it doesn't make sense to mix with heroin specifically. It will either be heroin or morphine, unless the morphine is just conveniently there.
It can be morphine and cocaine or it can be heroin and cocaine, both can be speedballs.
Nobody would do cocaine and ketamine as a speedball. Maybe they'd add it to heroin and cocaine.
The traditional speedball is heroin and cocaine, there's no reason to add morphine to it when morphine's much harder to get, more expensive, and weaker.
I guess you’d have to try the drugs in the first place to ever be able to really know- let me tell you, high doses of stimulants and downers were extremely fucking pleasant to my brain. You guys seem to think it’s not very fun, it is very fun until you become dependent.
He died of a speedball overdose (Coke and Heroin) but was also smoking crack by the time their third Album was recorded. Its actually the crack-smoking that started his infamous teeth decay.
And also Ozzy, that dude drank hectaliters of booze, injected kilos of drugs DAILY and fked dozens of hookers daily and all he has now is Parkinsons????
How tf is that guy still alive i genuinly don't know....
Have you ever considered that old rock stars had a duty to keep up appearances and maybe exaggerated their OTT lifestyle just a tad? Or do you seriously believe that Keith Richards wakes up with a bottle scotch and a needle full of heroin at the age of 80? That fucker is on a macrobiotic diet these days and probably has been since 1980. Don't believe the hype.
He has some sort of special DNA makeup thats very different then most people. Scientist that did the bloodwork said they had never seen these sort of mutations in the part thats called the alcohol dehydrogenase genes. They’re involved in breaking down alcohol when you drink. Ozzy has an unusual variant near one of his alcohol dehydrogenase genes, ADH4, that help regulate how much of the protein gets made. So this has some saying in how much the alcohol affects his body both in the stage of intoxication and after. But this is just a very shallow explanation so you would need to read more to understand why he is like he is.
Mutated for the specific niche of being able to get really fucked up, which if it has an evolutionary advantage on a large enough scale, it'll be worthy of actually calling it evolved. Judging by the fact humanity at large seems to enjoy some level of getting fucked up, perhaps?
Ozzy and Keith are either outliers of survivor bias, or they actually did enough junk to epigenetically absorb all the chemicals into a cellular preservative.
Meanwhile I know far too many guys dying around 40 for just being "kinda fat."
Ozzy and Keith definitely gave their bodies a run for their money, but keep in mind that their money, fame and connections meant that they had access to the purest drugs one could get a hold of. That, plus fentanyl and whatnot weren't as prevalent back then.
Sure, doing tons of cocaine can't be good for you, but if you're gonna be doing that, having access to clean cocaine instead of one with a bunch of stuff added to it is a must.
Oh, and their wealth means that they have access to the best medical care money can buy now in their old age, and therefore are far more likely to live more than their peers who didn't party quite as hard, but don't have access to the same healthcare.
They did a study on him and apparently he has more neanderthal DNA than 90% of other people. So this makes him resistant to the negative effects a bit more but also more susceptible to becoming addicted to substances.
Fentanyl laced drugs were on the streets in the mid 2000s. It's not unreasonable to think anybody who overdosed and died after '99 was exposed to some bad shit since fatal overdoses have significantly jumped since then.
Coming from a former heroin addict. Fentanyl didn't hit the scene hard until like 2015-2017. Before that it was mainly heroin from Afghanistan and even before that it was mainly percs and oxys. Layne was using heroin in the early 90s. None of that shit was laced with fent.
Test kits don't detect zenes. Nitazene is the new fentanyl, and it sucks. Its been around for a few years now, but the media really just started catching up
Personal experience. Ive been dependent on opioids for many years now, and I'm on methadone treatment. But I do use oxys still like once a week. Not too long ago, I came across an oxycodone pill that looked very well made, but it was a fake. It looked very real tho. Pressed pills are usually easy to tell. Even when I posted on a subreddit, people were telling me that theres no way that pill was fake.
But I brought the pill to a drug testing place, and they couldn't find any oxycodone in it, or any fentanyl for that matter. And they have pretty sophisticated equipment. They asked me if they could send my pill over to Health Canada. And a few weeks later I got a call telling me Health Canada determined it was protonitazene, a compound that can be 25-30x stronger than fentanyl.
Thats when I realized that the mysterious dilaudid pills I had bought back in 2019 were probably nitazenes too.
Survivorship bias. I'm sure loads of Old School rockstars couldn't handle their drugs either and died young, you just rarely hear about those suckers anymore.
Yup, dude lived like a junky for most of his life. Honestly I feel like Staley had some really bad undiagnosed mental health problem.
I heard how he knew he would die by his addiction and just kinda gave up since the pain from withdrawl was too much and by that point he believed he couldnt stop doing drugs, it just breaks my heart.
Watching the videoclip of Get Born Again is just so haunting, it feels like it's the message of a dying man.
I'll never forget the hell of a show they gave my country (brazil)
Extremely talented singer in a band similar to Nirvana called Alice in Chains. Hopelessly addicted to hard drugs. Went to rehab loads of times but couldnt kick them. Band couldnt tour because he would stay up for days taking whatever he could and get fucked up.
His former fiancée died jn 1996 from a drug realted illness and he really spiralled down into a hole after that. Basically bought a condo and hardly left it for like 4/5 years, just locked himself in a did loads of drugs. Developed gangrene and eventually weighed 86lbs (39kg) when he died. He was 6 foot tall.
Look up his wiki, its hopelessly sad.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layne_Staley
Also, check out their music if you dont know it.
https://open.spotify.com/artist/64tNsm6TnZe2zpcMVMOoHL?si=fXdmQLMPT12Tf9O3CipnRw
Thanks, yeah I'm familiar with the band and their music, not a fan but I somewhat like it. From what I know Kurt had some physical difficulties from childhood which made him addicted to drugs. Thought maybe Staley had something similar
To be fair…Down in a Hole was written by Jerry Cantrell about a fucked up relationship. But absolutely sounds like a drug inspired song because of the way Layne sing it and makes it his own. However…Hate to Feel, Junkhead, Godsmack, Sickman, Dirt…THOSE songs are absolutely about the depression and horrors of hell.
I was unaware he wrote it. First time I heard it was on mtv unplugged and regardless of who wrote it or its initial subject it 100% became his after seeing a toothless layne screaming out his soul
I first listened to Dirt in 2019. Really liked it, so I decided to look up the lyrics.
So what's this song about? Heroin use? Okay, pretty grim stuff, but that's fine.
How about this one? Oh, also heroin use? Well, it's not the first time someone's double-dipped a topic.
K, how about this one? Heroin use? Really? Hell of a drug, but damn...
How about this one, it's probably also about heroin use. Oh, it's actually about Jerry Cantrell's father, who was a Vietnam War vet. Well, that's a nice change of pace.
These songs are literally called "Junkhead" and "God Smack." I wonder what they're about - yep, back to the usual.
Yeah, it was a little underwhelming that 60% of that album ended up being "heroin is bad, kids".
Wake Up from when he was with Mad Season after a rehab stint is the most harrowing cry for him to get his shit together and predicting (accurately) what would happen if he didn’t.
This is true for a lot of artists unfortunately.
They can often draw from trauma or the darkest places to pull inspiration for their art.
However how many times can you gaze into the abyss before it consumes and claims you.
Im just saying, fame and money fade away like dust. Looked him up and he died when I was 6, and that was 22 years ago. His name is already starting to fade solely because people are adults now that never grew up with him.
Lmao, you’re silly as hell, Beethoven, Mozart etc will never be forgotten as long as there is music, their musical contributions are very extreme, just as grunge was a very radical shift in pop culture, just because you’re uncultured doesn’t mean he isn’t popular
You’re being downvoted, but why the fuck do y’all think heroin is still considered one of the hardest and most dangerous drugs around? It’s because it fucking does what it says on the tin.
It chemically activates all of the ”feel good” receptors in your brain, any time you want. Nothing you can do outside of narcotics can do the same, as easily and reliably.
Exactly. There only one reason someone would choose a life of heroin over that of being a rich, handsome, successful rockstar. It’s because it gives you a better high.
Good news is that while being a rockstar is not available to all, heroin is.
People would be surprised by how little money even famous rockers and metal musicians make.
Not talking about the ultra-mega famous,but Lemmy from Motorhead said once that he made more money from writting a few songs for Ozzy than a couple of years of touring.
I can't help but think Lemmy's financial situation was his own fault. Motorhead didn't sell a ton of albums, but they toured constantly and didn't have trouble filling seats.
I apploud Motorhead since they were willing to go and do concerts outside of a typical tour and not demand a milion dollars per ticket.
One of Motorhead's last concerts was at a music festival in Serbia,they weren't even on the Main stage,and the ticket for the whole festival was 30-50€ Euros,i can't imagine they made more than 10k,it's a pretty shitty spot on a modest music festival.
Maybe it was for the rock and roll in the end.
For comparisson,fucking Sting demanded 200€ per ticket that same year in the same city.
yeah my mother wanted to go last year to a concert, so she looked who‘d bee around at the time. The rolling stones in 2 months she wanted instantly shell out the cash for tickets but at 700€ for the cheapest ticket she declined and went for 50€ a year later to one of germany‘s biggest rockstars
There are a lot of people who have way more money than sense. Even if I was a billionaire, I'd never pay 700 E to watch a band of a bunch of 80 year olds
Lemmy lived there for a couple of decades because it was rent-controlled and a block off the Sunset Strip. He was always a super cheap guy no matter how much money he had and bragged about only paying $900 a month for the place.
I have a friend who is the lead guitarist for a metal band. They've toured with quite a few very famous acts, including Cannibal Corpse and Rotting Christ. The lead singer is actually the son of a very well known, old school thrash band. They've got thousands of followers on social media, millions of Spotify streams and YouTube views, and have toured everywhere from Europe, to the United States, to even doing some shows in Mexico and Japan.
This friend of mine also works full time as a mechanic and has asked me quite a few times if I had any extra work at my company. He would come on Saturdays and help repair our equipment for extra cash. He has roommates, drives a Civic, and has to budget a lot to be able to afford to continue playing the music that he loves. Its a shame, I always buy a copy of their albums and EPs when they release, and have at least 5 t shirts from them. Its a shame that they can be at the level of fame and recognition that they are (Corpsegrinder even wore one of their shirts for a huge live performance they did) and still not make a living
Yeah they are actually usually have little or no money.
Because the record deals are kinda ass, and basically cripple them into being dependent on the record label company or whatever it's called that they signed with.
let’s be real the reason a lot of rich people are suicidal isn’t because they are tortured geniuses, it’s because many of them are sociopaths that can’t form genuine human bonds or find meaning in life even with their entire fortune. The reason they obtained their wealth is the same reason they are too ignorant to think of any ways to actually build a meaningful life with the wealth
what are you talking about there are so many people who talked about what a genuinely kind person Layne was. If you wanna talk about a sociopath, Kurt was aggressive to anyone else in the industry for fun, and even shit on Alice In Chains at some points. Yet he’s praised like a God even though he was a horrible person. Genuinely a horrible person. Layne was so genuine and he dedicated a lot of his music to being a warning with a catchy tune, he didn’t want younger boys emulating him, thinking his lifestyle was something to look up to.
It’s crazy that at the height of their fame, they hardly ever played live because Layne Stanley was so fucked up. When they played their classic MTV Unplugged set, they hadn’t played in 2.5 years. They only did 3 more shows after that before he died.
Such a shame, dude’s voice and vocal range was something else. I saw Alice In Chains last year and even though the replacement singer is pretty good, it was obvious he was having trouble on some songs
Dude calling Duvall a replacement singer is such an under evaluation of that guy. BGWTB was awesome, and The Devil put Dinosaurs here was an all time Alice great.
I’m sure that has something to do with it but Layne’s voice and ability just couldn’t be replicated. A lot of singers couldn’t hit those notes with the same consistency as him, even in their prime
He should have taken a page out of your book and been a broke no bitch having troglodyte who’s sole comfort in life is to act like he understands the nuance of other peoples lives! I’m sure it makes you happy?
That's the whole problem with fixating with one thing that will bring you happiness. Fame! Sex! Money! When I have these things I'll be happy! But that's not how happiness works, and some people can't stand the realization that there is no moment where you lock in the happily ever after.
Heroin is no joke. That's why you have these people who have been clean for 10 years relapsing. Most ex coke addicts agree that you only need to spend a few weeks in rehab and you don't feel the need to snort anymore. I've heard ex heroin addicts saying that you still feel the pull decades after the last dose.
The sort of chronic clinical depression doesn’t improve with wealth or an extravagant lifestyle. The drugs and crazy shit certainly not going to help long term with that but some people are just seemingly born to suffer or something snaps in their brain at some point and they are just fucked long term. Shit Chris Cornell was wildly successful and was still writing songs about feeling not good enough and struggling with depression.
He was so reclusive that it took two full weeks for anyone to notice that he'd died. Even then, it was his accountant that raised the alarm after seeing that he hadn't withdrawn any money for two weeks. Desperately tragic.
An8thOfFeanor@reddit
Layne was better than Kurt, but few romanticize his death like Kurt
Schowzy@reddit
Same with Chris Cornell. Idk why Kurt gets all the spotlight.
The_Salacious_Zaand@reddit
I'm still pissed about Chris Cornell. Dude was completely clean, releasing solo album after solo album, Soundgarden was touring again, Audioslave was about to get back together, he still had his voice and a lot of talent to give, and then bam, dead in a hotel from fucking prescription pills.
I'm just glad I got to see Soundgarden love a few times before he died.
Cobain was sold by Sub Pop as THE mantle-bearer of what the 90s was going to sound like, and dude simply couldn't handle the pressure of being commoditized.
McSlappies@reddit
I mean, there's also the substantial possibility that Courtney did it
Sapper501@reddit
Didn't they say that his Lorazepam had major side effects and contributed to his death? I recall his wife being in a lawsuit against the pharma company.
Schowzy@reddit
My crazy mom insists it was the deep state that had him killed because him and Eddie Vedder were going to out Hollywood and big government officials for being pedos. I wish I was making this up.
Her one piece of evidence is the lyrics of Hunger Strike, she interprets them as Chris and Eddie being brought into the circle of rich elites and actors but they refused to partake in the pedo stuff.
casey-primozic@reddit
Hunger Strike was one of their earliest works. I don't think they were that famous and rich back then to get "being brought into the circle of rich elites". Yeah, your mom's craycray.
Schowzy@reddit
That's what I tried telling her, she just shrugged and said, "just something to think about"
liluzibrap@reddit
My mom is the same way. I'm not really sure how much thinking they're actually doing to come to these conclusions, I think they watch too much conspiracy stuff
b400k513@reddit
For some reason, like half the celebrities that died between 2017 and 2019 got caught up in this same rumor. Anthony Bourdain, Chester Bennington, Avicii, and Kate Spade off the top of my head. It's always, "they were working on a documentary," but it doesn't really make sense.
puntzee@reddit
Oh god
Schowzy@reddit
I was 17 when he died, I never got to see him. Really wished I was as much into his music then as I am now.
sluraplea@reddit
Agreed, it's one of the celebrity deaths that pisses me the most.
Lord_Chromosome@reddit
Because Kurt was murdered by Courtney Love.
new_tangclan@reddit
Cornell was 20 years too late.
The_Salacious_Zaand@reddit
30 years too early if you ask me.
new_tangclan@reddit
Yeah, didn't mean it thst way.
The_Salacious_Zaand@reddit
Don't worry, I know what you meant. 20 years too early to compete with Cobain for most overexposed rocker to off themselves in the 90s.
Loud-Cry-391@reddit
Because he looked like a Disney prince, was turned into a pop icon and was constantly plastered on MTV.
The image of nirvana, including the smiley face, was made to be as important as the image of someone like Michael Jackson.
They were grunge, as an image, mood, behavior, as much as MJ was the image of pop.
50_K@reddit
Kurt went out with more of a bang.
Schowzy@reddit
That's... true.
SparkySpice0911@reddit
“My fav dead guy is better than your favorite dead guy” Fuck you dude lmao
2BEN-2C93@reddit
I agree, but if you look at the photos of him from 96-97 theres not a lot to romanticise
Lonely_Eggplant_4990@reddit
He was 6ft tall and weighed like 86lbs when he died. Horrifiyingstuff.
casey-primozic@reddit
Dang, I didn't know this
Lonely_Eggplant_4990@reddit
My right leg weighs that much
casey-primozic@reddit
Dang, them's fighting words.
Nah just kidding. As a singer I think Chris Cornell was better than both.
RadioRoosterTony@reddit
I think it's partially because Kurt's death was closer to the peak of his fame.
rofloctopuss@reddit
Nirvana was so much more commercially viable, and got way more airtime as a result. I remember in high school everyone knew Nirvana even if they were into rap or techno, whereas only people that were specifically into grunge type rock knew Alice in Chains. I don't think there was a single song on the radio by AiC where I'm from while Staley was alive, but Nirvana was just song after song.
mahirdeth31@reddit
he is the mAaAaAaAaAaAaAan in the box
fr4gge@reddit
By every drug under the sun do you mean "heroin"?
Schowzy@reddit
He OD'd on Speedball. Basically a soup of heroin, cocaine and morphine.
AccountantOver4088@reddit
Nobody puts morphine in a speed ball. Or takes it with heroin. If he did, it’s because he had it laying around and figured why tf not. Speedballs aren’t that crazy amongst people who do drugs. I smoke meth and fentanyl together and still go to work and take care of business.
Source: Am a poly substance addict.
poop-machines@reddit
No, it's heroin and cocaine.
Why would they add morphine if they have heroin? Heroin is diamorphine, and is stronger and more euphoric than morphine.
ChrissySmalls@reddit
No offense bro, but the way you speak about severely addicted drug addicts doesn't track with my experience of them. These aren't logical beings. Different opiates also give different highs, it isn't just one standard feeling intensified. Combining them might give the addict more of a "full spectrum" high. Chief Keef was caught with morphine, codeine, hydrocodone, norcodeine, dihydrocodeine and hydromorphone in his system once, he was a global superstar with the resources to get however much of whatever he wanted, why wasn't he only taking the strongest one?
With all due respect, these are drug addicts and your most recent post on reddit is titled "A study request: Ocean acidifcation and warming increasing toxic plankton or algae blooms in the near future. This in turn causes the air to become toxic. Can anyone help me find this?". These people do not think like you.
poop-machines@reddit
Morphine and heroin are so similar they may as well be the same drug. It's not like oxy which gives a stimulating high.
It doesn't make sense to mix morphine and diamorphine at all. What do you mean these people do not think like me? I think you're making a lot of assumptions about what kind of person a drug addict is, and you're wrong for thinking that way.
ChrissySmalls@reddit
We are talking about very far gone drug addicts here. Not drug addicts. Everything I've said about #severly addicted drug addicts is absolutely true#. There are people whose live hasn't been consumed by the process of getting high that swear eating the stem from a weed flower gives you a different high. Getting high by itself is a very ritualistic process with all sorts of placebo effects and idiosyncrasies. This black/white logical thinking simply doesn't reflect reality. Far gone drug addicts would absolutely mix the two.
poop-machines@reddit
I am not proud of it, but I have used every drug we have discussed. I know there's no reason to use heroin with morphine, it doesn't add anything at all. Heroin and morphine feel the same. It's not like cocaine Vs meth.
Shrooms Vs shrooms from a different place feels more different than heroin Vs morphine.
For speedballs, nobody is adding morphine unless they ran out of heroin, and even then it makes little sense since morphine is more expensive.
Far gone drug addicts definitely wouldn't mix the two because they only use what's best for their money. There's no reason they'd use morphine when heroin is cheaper and stronger.
Again, I don't appreciate you judging drug addicts. Acting like they can't be interested in the climate or science. Most addicts look normal. The ones you meet on the street are often addicts with serious psychiatric problems. You wouldn't usually see the normal addict, and if you did, you would never expect them to be an addict.
ChrissySmalls@reddit
My friend, you have obviously done a lot of drugs and understand how they work. There are also a lot of people out there that have done a lot more drugs and do not have the faintest idea how they work. I have seen these people. I have seen how they live. I have seen how they operate. I have never spoke about addicts as a monolith, I have said that there is a specific type of addict that absolutely would mix them. They exist. You can't erase their existence here by denying it anymore than I can deny the existence of functional addicts. These people exist.
poop-machines@reddit
I agree there's plenty of addicts who are idiots, and don't have a clue how their drugs work or how to use them semi-safely.
But it only takes using morphine once to realise it's bad. Usually you buy it for oral use, and it's bioavailability is laughable when taken this way. I think even the dumb addicts would avoid it. Even the dumbest of the dumb know how it feels, even if they don't know how it works. Even IV morphine is more expensive and weaker, so it feels worse, and costs more, even with the more efficient ROA.
Truthfully speedballs with morphine would only be done by people scared of heroin, before they switched to heroin. Addicts would use heroin.
I will say, however, that this will be changing. Becasuse of Nitrazines and fentanyl in heroin, people may start switching to morphine because they believe that it's safer (and honestly they're right). The USA has had a fentanyl problem for a while, but the afghan crackdown on heroin is causing the rest of the world to switch to other opiates like nitrazines. Although most samples in the UK don't contain it, it's not effectively monitored and it seems to be on the rise. This could mean that, in the future, speedballs contain morphine more and more. But like I said, it doesn't make sense to mix with heroin specifically. It will either be heroin or morphine, unless the morphine is just conveniently there.
Schowzy@reddit
Any combination of cocaine, heroin, morphine and/or ketamine can be called speedball. Just reading the wiki page for it.
Hardcore drug users probably aren't too pressed or thinking real hard about mixing two of the same high.
poop-machines@reddit
It can be morphine and cocaine or it can be heroin and cocaine, both can be speedballs.
Nobody would do cocaine and ketamine as a speedball. Maybe they'd add it to heroin and cocaine.
The traditional speedball is heroin and cocaine, there's no reason to add morphine to it when morphine's much harder to get, more expensive, and weaker.
kilomilimeter@reddit
Just to add, you don't really want to IV ketammine anyways. It's much better off being done via IM. Don't ask how I know this
UnfriskyDingo@reddit
Actually it was crack
nameisreallydog@reddit
Jesus
Commercial-Tea-8428@reddit
I guess you’d have to try the drugs in the first place to ever be able to really know- let me tell you, high doses of stimulants and downers were extremely fucking pleasant to my brain. You guys seem to think it’s not very fun, it is very fun until you become dependent.
Straight_Waltz2115@reddit
That's exactly why haha. Unfun a speedball also killed Chris Farley
FernieHead@reddit
And John Bellshill and River Phoenix
wagoncirclermike@reddit
John Belushi too.
LNO_030@reddit
He died of a speedball overdose (Coke and Heroin) but was also smoking crack by the time their third Album was recorded. Its actually the crack-smoking that started his infamous teeth decay.
Frosty_Salamander856@reddit
Disassociative drugs are amazing when you can just chill and listen to music.
Make a mix tape, take some CCC, and put on big headphones. Your mind will be blown hearing every track for the first time.
Unreleated, but read this: https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-fmcc-intropsych/chapter/reading-reinforcement-schedules/
ConfidentMongoose@reddit
Meanwhile Keith Richards is still alive... These young kids can't handle their drugs
TeTeOtaku@reddit
And also Ozzy, that dude drank hectaliters of booze, injected kilos of drugs DAILY and fked dozens of hookers daily and all he has now is Parkinsons????
How tf is that guy still alive i genuinly don't know....
WolfieTooting@reddit
Have you ever considered that old rock stars had a duty to keep up appearances and maybe exaggerated their OTT lifestyle just a tad? Or do you seriously believe that Keith Richards wakes up with a bottle scotch and a needle full of heroin at the age of 80? That fucker is on a macrobiotic diet these days and probably has been since 1980. Don't believe the hype.
Suspekt_1@reddit
He has some sort of special DNA makeup thats very different then most people. Scientist that did the bloodwork said they had never seen these sort of mutations in the part thats called the alcohol dehydrogenase genes. They’re involved in breaking down alcohol when you drink. Ozzy has an unusual variant near one of his alcohol dehydrogenase genes, ADH4, that help regulate how much of the protein gets made. So this has some saying in how much the alcohol affects his body both in the stage of intoxication and after. But this is just a very shallow explanation so you would need to read more to understand why he is like he is.
Lonelybiscuit07@reddit
So he's evolved?
klunghund@reddit
Hes just different
NotJayKayPeeness@reddit
Oswald are built diff'rnt
InsomniaDudeToo@reddit
He indeed has that Dawg in him
ThatFuckingGeniusKid@reddit
He's a mutant, the X-Men should add him to the team
Roxnaron_Morthalor@reddit
Mutated for the specific niche of being able to get really fucked up, which if it has an evolutionary advantage on a large enough scale, it'll be worthy of actually calling it evolved. Judging by the fact humanity at large seems to enjoy some level of getting fucked up, perhaps?
Lonelybiscuit07@reddit
I can see how people that are fucked up more have a higher chance of getting (someone) pregnant
Roxnaron_Morthalor@reddit
Valid point, I hadn't actually bothered to consider the manners in which it could work, but that might be one
gbuub@reddit
That jumboed pruned up face is what peak human looks like
InsanityyyyBR@reddit
I should probably bear his child
MayorMcCheezz@reddit
The bat gave him special powers.
theloop82@reddit
He cannot be killed by conventional weaponry
Godskin_Duo@reddit
Ozzy and Keith are either outliers of survivor bias, or they actually did enough junk to epigenetically absorb all the chemicals into a cellular preservative.
Meanwhile I know far too many guys dying around 40 for just being "kinda fat."
ScottyUpdawg@reddit
Motley Crue supposedly injected Jack Daniel’s into their veins. Certainly false, but those dudes are still kickin too and they partied like psychos
cilvher-coyote@reddit
How do u know that's false? It's 100%doable to inject booze...LSD as well
herpitusderpitus@reddit
literally seen my buddies do it with vodka back in the day for 100 punk points... miss ya dude wasnt the booze that got them.
AcrolloPeed@reddit
Explains why they need backing tracks every night
C0SAS@reddit
He accidentally stumbled upon an immortality cocktail while taking AllTheDrugs(TM)
ohnoohno69@reddit
He's from Birmingham.
Turquoise_Teletubbie@reddit
Ozzy and Keith definitely gave their bodies a run for their money, but keep in mind that their money, fame and connections meant that they had access to the purest drugs one could get a hold of. That, plus fentanyl and whatnot weren't as prevalent back then.
Sure, doing tons of cocaine can't be good for you, but if you're gonna be doing that, having access to clean cocaine instead of one with a bunch of stuff added to it is a must.
Oh, and their wealth means that they have access to the best medical care money can buy now in their old age, and therefore are far more likely to live more than their peers who didn't party quite as hard, but don't have access to the same healthcare.
qwertyalguien@reddit
Built differently
useeikick@reddit
Literally, proven scientifically on a genetic level
baudmiksen@reddit
Charlie Sheen banging 7 gram rocks. Was on a run that made Richards and Jagger look like droopy eyed school children
SnooCakes2703@reddit
They did a study on him and apparently he has more neanderthal DNA than 90% of other people. So this makes him resistant to the negative effects a bit more but also more susceptible to becoming addicted to substances.
Memefryer@reddit
Because shit is laced now.
RadioSoulwax@reddit
I mean this was 20 years ago
Memefryer@reddit
Fentanyl laced drugs were on the streets in the mid 2000s. It's not unreasonable to think anybody who overdosed and died after '99 was exposed to some bad shit since fatal overdoses have significantly jumped since then.
DastardlyDude@reddit
Coming from a former heroin addict. Fentanyl didn't hit the scene hard until like 2015-2017. Before that it was mainly heroin from Afghanistan and even before that it was mainly percs and oxys. Layne was using heroin in the early 90s. None of that shit was laced with fent.
Going_Full_Abuela@reddit
That guy has no idea what he’s talking about if he’s trying to suggest fent is the same problem it was in the early 2000s
WhiskyWisdom@reddit
I have bad news for you
ScottyUpdawg@reddit
Get a guy to test it now. Test kits are cheap, and these dudes can afford to pay one more bro for their entourage
thumbulukutamalasa@reddit
Test kits don't detect zenes. Nitazene is the new fentanyl, and it sucks. Its been around for a few years now, but the media really just started catching up
slagathor907@reddit
I'm actually interested in how you know this. Source or personal experience?
thumbulukutamalasa@reddit
Personal experience. Ive been dependent on opioids for many years now, and I'm on methadone treatment. But I do use oxys still like once a week. Not too long ago, I came across an oxycodone pill that looked very well made, but it was a fake. It looked very real tho. Pressed pills are usually easy to tell. Even when I posted on a subreddit, people were telling me that theres no way that pill was fake.
But I brought the pill to a drug testing place, and they couldn't find any oxycodone in it, or any fentanyl for that matter. And they have pretty sophisticated equipment. They asked me if they could send my pill over to Health Canada. And a few weeks later I got a call telling me Health Canada determined it was protonitazene, a compound that can be 25-30x stronger than fentanyl.
Thats when I realized that the mysterious dilaudid pills I had bought back in 2019 were probably nitazenes too.
Forreal zenes fucked it all up.
slagathor907@reddit
Interesting. Where are they being made? Is this all china?
thumbulukutamalasa@reddit
China would be my guess too. But I don't really know tbh.
SleepyCalacas@reddit
I got curious and found this
Excel_in_Decay_666@reddit
it's a shame we lost a guy like Layne, every single artist in the top 40 today would be a much more welcomed death.
dwartbg9@reddit
The dude from the meme passed away over 20 years ago. Long before people knew what Fentanyl is.
whitewail602@reddit
Pretty sure Layne Staley didn't have a problem with drug purity. He was just a dumbass.
calmitygore22@reddit
🤦♂️
ProfessXM@reddit
fr shit is laced especially cause it’s coming from the CIA. fuck keith richard’s
maicii@reddit
If you ha e crazy celebrity amount ofoney you can easily access good quality shit
backinredd@reddit
Just wash the fent away under the sink
Grim47z@reddit
So is Ozzy somehow
holaprobando123@reddit
I doubt Keith Richards got fucked up for the same existential reasons all the grunge tragic figures did.
JimmyTheBones@reddit
Yes you're right I simply can't come up with a single name from the past who has ever od'd until this most recent generation.
Walter_Padick@reddit
Gotta clean up and do a blood transfusion every 6 months...allegedly
wallagrargh@reddit
Survivorship bias. I'm sure loads of Old School rockstars couldn't handle their drugs either and died young, you just rarely hear about those suckers anymore.
Din_Plug@reddit
Elvis
AcidEatersAnonymous@reddit
Never hear about the nobodies and also rans for whom it all fell apart and disappeared.
7homPsoN@reddit
Keith Moon isnt though...just depends on the person
OldSkooRebel@reddit
Yeah but...Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Jimmy Hendrix, John Belushi, Kurt Cobain, Chris Farley, etc
ReCodez@reddit
Those drugs had to survive him, not the other way around.
AutisticHormoneDwarf@reddit
His last 10 years were constant gaming, gooning, and shooting up. My idol.
WolfieTooting@reddit
Living the dream
MoonMan_999@reddit
Literally me
WrightNottwell@reddit
My favorite grunge musician dude went out too early guess we die young huh
WolfieTooting@reddit
My grandfather lived to the age of 95. I guess it must have been the lack of heroin
Swaggynator387@reddit
I don't even know who that is
WolfieTooting@reddit
It's Nicolas Cage
breakfasteveryday@reddit
Who?
WolfieTooting@reddit
Freddie Mercury
WolfieTooting@reddit
Life is nothing without God in it
SpaceNex@reddit
who dis?
WolfieTooting@reddit
Michael Jackson
leganjemon@reddit
The reason for his fame was the reason behind his death. Crippling heroine addiction.
His partner dying in 1995 or 96 was the final straw.
Schowzy@reddit
Speedball baby, that'll getcha
thumbulukutamalasa@reddit
Speedballs are pretty fkn amazing to be fair.
zangor@reddit
Sometimes I take what I call a kindergarten speed ball. Clonazepam + a Red Bull.
Ssyynnxx@reddit
I used to do that a couple years ago from time to time but realized having a heart attack would be a shit way to go
Kriegsman__69th@reddit
Yup, dude lived like a junky for most of his life. Honestly I feel like Staley had some really bad undiagnosed mental health problem.
I heard how he knew he would die by his addiction and just kinda gave up since the pain from withdrawl was too much and by that point he believed he couldnt stop doing drugs, it just breaks my heart.
Watching the videoclip of Get Born Again is just so haunting, it feels like it's the message of a dying man.
I'll never forget the hell of a show they gave my country (brazil)
timbo_slice59@reddit
I fucking love Alice In Chains
Lonely_Eggplant_4990@reddit
Layne. His story is actually fucking terrifying.
OkTower4998@reddit
Give us a short summary?
Lonely_Eggplant_4990@reddit
Extremely talented singer in a band similar to Nirvana called Alice in Chains. Hopelessly addicted to hard drugs. Went to rehab loads of times but couldnt kick them. Band couldnt tour because he would stay up for days taking whatever he could and get fucked up.
His former fiancée died jn 1996 from a drug realted illness and he really spiralled down into a hole after that. Basically bought a condo and hardly left it for like 4/5 years, just locked himself in a did loads of drugs. Developed gangrene and eventually weighed 86lbs (39kg) when he died. He was 6 foot tall.
Look up his wiki, its hopelessly sad. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layne_Staley
Also, check out their music if you dont know it. https://open.spotify.com/artist/64tNsm6TnZe2zpcMVMOoHL?si=fXdmQLMPT12Tf9O3CipnRw
MoonMan_999@reddit
Im literally ryan gosling? No, i am literally him
OkTower4998@reddit
Thanks, yeah I'm familiar with the band and their music, not a fan but I somewhat like it. From what I know Kurt had some physical difficulties from childhood which made him addicted to drugs. Thought maybe Staley had something similar
Lonely_Eggplant_4990@reddit
He actually got a big fright when Cobain died and got sober for a while. It didnt last long though.
antd24@reddit
Looks like a third Paul brother
King_Dee1@reddit
Layne is one of my favorite singers
GodsToWho@reddit
Legend...
hazzmg@reddit
U think down in a hole is getting made without the utterly depressing feeling of being drug fucked and knowing that’s is ultimately going to kill u
Hot_Injury7719@reddit
To be fair…Down in a Hole was written by Jerry Cantrell about a fucked up relationship. But absolutely sounds like a drug inspired song because of the way Layne sing it and makes it his own. However…Hate to Feel, Junkhead, Godsmack, Sickman, Dirt…THOSE songs are absolutely about the depression and horrors of hell.
hazzmg@reddit
I was unaware he wrote it. First time I heard it was on mtv unplugged and regardless of who wrote it or its initial subject it 100% became his after seeing a toothless layne screaming out his soul
Ardalev@reddit
Them Bones, Dirt etc. Absolut bangers but, yeah, such songs don't just come from the healthiest of mindstates!
Everestkid@reddit
I first listened to Dirt in 2019. Really liked it, so I decided to look up the lyrics.
So what's this song about? Heroin use? Okay, pretty grim stuff, but that's fine.
How about this one? Oh, also heroin use? Well, it's not the first time someone's double-dipped a topic.
K, how about this one? Heroin use? Really? Hell of a drug, but damn...
How about this one, it's probably also about heroin use. Oh, it's actually about Jerry Cantrell's father, who was a Vietnam War vet. Well, that's a nice change of pace.
These songs are literally called "Junkhead" and "God Smack." I wonder what they're about - yep, back to the usual.
Yeah, it was a little underwhelming that 60% of that album ended up being "heroin is bad, kids".
casey-primozic@reddit
The Rooster was and still is a banger both the music and the meaning behind the lyrics.
ILoveBigCoffeeCups@reddit
Nutshell my favourite song and an ultimate way of explaining why he thinks he would be better dead.
Hot_Injury7719@reddit
Wake Up from when he was with Mad Season after a rehab stint is the most harrowing cry for him to get his shit together and predicting (accurately) what would happen if he didn’t.
L0ading_@reddit
Nutshell is this one song I play every fall season, such a powerful emotional song
DillonTattoos@reddit
I always have a bit of a pause when I hear Sick Man. He knew exactly where he was headed
casey-primozic@reddit
And Sickman too, never really dived deeper into the meaning of what the lyrics meant for this song but it probably was about himself.
50_K@reddit
I love Layne, but Down in a Hole was written by Jerry Cantrell.
Ck_shock@reddit
This is true for a lot of artists unfortunately. They can often draw from trauma or the darkest places to pull inspiration for their art. However how many times can you gaze into the abyss before it consumes and claims you.
f-ckusingmyrealemail@reddit
The extreme irony is that I don't even know who this is. All that fame and money didn't add up to much. Ozymandias type thing.
TopHatDwarf@reddit
You not knowing doesn't change the fact that alice in chains is a very popular band lol.
f-ckusingmyrealemail@reddit
Im just saying, fame and money fade away like dust. Looked him up and he died when I was 6, and that was 22 years ago. His name is already starting to fade solely because people are adults now that never grew up with him.
Like I said, Ozymandias.
KrumbSum@reddit
Lmao, you’re silly as hell, Beethoven, Mozart etc will never be forgotten as long as there is music, their musical contributions are very extreme, just as grunge was a very radical shift in pop culture, just because you’re uncultured doesn’t mean he isn’t popular
AugustEpilogue@reddit
No, heroin is just better than anything life can provide
casey-primozic@reddit
Probably what he meant by:
Junkhead lyrics off the top of my my head
kilomilimeter@reddit
Facts unfortunately
Laowaii87@reddit
You’re being downvoted, but why the fuck do y’all think heroin is still considered one of the hardest and most dangerous drugs around? It’s because it fucking does what it says on the tin.
It chemically activates all of the ”feel good” receptors in your brain, any time you want. Nothing you can do outside of narcotics can do the same, as easily and reliably.
AugustEpilogue@reddit
Exactly. There only one reason someone would choose a life of heroin over that of being a rich, handsome, successful rockstar. It’s because it gives you a better high.
Good news is that while being a rockstar is not available to all, heroin is.
CerebralMessiah@reddit
People would be surprised by how little money even famous rockers and metal musicians make.
Not talking about the ultra-mega famous,but Lemmy from Motorhead said once that he made more money from writting a few songs for Ozzy than a couple of years of touring.
b400k513@reddit
I can't help but think Lemmy's financial situation was his own fault. Motorhead didn't sell a ton of albums, but they toured constantly and didn't have trouble filling seats.
CerebralMessiah@reddit
I apploud Motorhead since they were willing to go and do concerts outside of a typical tour and not demand a milion dollars per ticket.
One of Motorhead's last concerts was at a music festival in Serbia,they weren't even on the Main stage,and the ticket for the whole festival was 30-50€ Euros,i can't imagine they made more than 10k,it's a pretty shitty spot on a modest music festival.
Maybe it was for the rock and roll in the end.
For comparisson,fucking Sting demanded 200€ per ticket that same year in the same city.
Mungkelel@reddit
yeah my mother wanted to go last year to a concert, so she looked who‘d bee around at the time. The rolling stones in 2 months she wanted instantly shell out the cash for tickets but at 700€ for the cheapest ticket she declined and went for 50€ a year later to one of germany‘s biggest rockstars
casey-primozic@reddit
There are a lot of people who have way more money than sense. Even if I was a billionaire, I'd never pay 700 E to watch a band of a bunch of 80 year olds
Gravesh@reddit
Lemmy died in an LA apartment. You'd think he'd have some crazy manor in the UK.
Captain_Vegetable@reddit
Lemmy lived there for a couple of decades because it was rent-controlled and a block off the Sunset Strip. He was always a super cheap guy no matter how much money he had and bragged about only paying $900 a month for the place.
casey-primozic@reddit
He just like me fr fr
Time_Astronaut@reddit
Which in all fairness is a fucking deal
Affectionate_Panic14@reddit
I would live there til i died too.
RoadStill5433@reddit
From what I've heard about LA it wouldn't surprise me if the LA apartment costed more
CerebralMessiah@reddit
This would have been mid 2000s-2010s when he lived there,much more managable.
CertifiedWeebHater@reddit
I have a friend who is the lead guitarist for a metal band. They've toured with quite a few very famous acts, including Cannibal Corpse and Rotting Christ. The lead singer is actually the son of a very well known, old school thrash band. They've got thousands of followers on social media, millions of Spotify streams and YouTube views, and have toured everywhere from Europe, to the United States, to even doing some shows in Mexico and Japan.
This friend of mine also works full time as a mechanic and has asked me quite a few times if I had any extra work at my company. He would come on Saturdays and help repair our equipment for extra cash. He has roommates, drives a Civic, and has to budget a lot to be able to afford to continue playing the music that he loves. Its a shame, I always buy a copy of their albums and EPs when they release, and have at least 5 t shirts from them. Its a shame that they can be at the level of fame and recognition that they are (Corpsegrinder even wore one of their shirts for a huge live performance they did) and still not make a living
Ironborn137@reddit
The amount of pussy though is something else.
CerebralMessiah@reddit
Unfortunately you can use pussy to pay the bills
Only buy coke.
Ck_shock@reddit
Yeah they are actually usually have little or no money. Because the record deals are kinda ass, and basically cripple them into being dependent on the record label company or whatever it's called that they signed with.
r3mod_3tiym@reddit
Layne Staley slander is not allowed
dustys-muffler@reddit
Anon doesn’t understand heroin and crack is delicious
MrWilsonWalluby@reddit
let’s be real the reason a lot of rich people are suicidal isn’t because they are tortured geniuses, it’s because many of them are sociopaths that can’t form genuine human bonds or find meaning in life even with their entire fortune. The reason they obtained their wealth is the same reason they are too ignorant to think of any ways to actually build a meaningful life with the wealth
anklebiker@reddit
what are you talking about there are so many people who talked about what a genuinely kind person Layne was. If you wanna talk about a sociopath, Kurt was aggressive to anyone else in the industry for fun, and even shit on Alice In Chains at some points. Yet he’s praised like a God even though he was a horrible person. Genuinely a horrible person. Layne was so genuine and he dedicated a lot of his music to being a warning with a catchy tune, he didn’t want younger boys emulating him, thinking his lifestyle was something to look up to.
LoopyPro@reddit
His pain was self-chosen.
Trevor_Lahey330@reddit
at least, he believes it to be.
Drunkbag@reddit
damn, downvoted for a mad season reference
LSFiddly@reddit
I'll bring balance.
Meme_Pope@reddit
It’s crazy that at the height of their fame, they hardly ever played live because Layne Stanley was so fucked up. When they played their classic MTV Unplugged set, they hadn’t played in 2.5 years. They only did 3 more shows after that before he died.
puntzee@reddit
Jeez didn’t know that
Eldritch_Ayylien66@reddit
God, their Unplugged performance was amazing and also heartbreaking too because you can see how in bad of shape Layne was from the drugs.
Lonely_Eggplant_4990@reddit
Ya, they couldnt tour because he would just get fucked up. He would stay up for days and just blast through every and any drug available.
GreatGigInTheSky855@reddit
Such a shame, dude’s voice and vocal range was something else. I saw Alice In Chains last year and even though the replacement singer is pretty good, it was obvious he was having trouble on some songs
ScrimBimulous_Z@reddit
I love Layne but he's glamorized way too much. He could barely or not at all hit these notes himself during their final shows.
Kilo_0622@reddit
Final shows maybe, bro was hanging on by a thread. But in his prime? Crazy stuff
Captain_Naj0rk@reddit
Dude calling Duvall a replacement singer is such an under evaluation of that guy. BGWTB was awesome, and The Devil put Dinosaurs here was an all time Alice great.
Cap_Silly@reddit
Died playing NHL alone on his Mega Drive. Nobody found out for weeks. Such sadness.
Giraff3sAreFake@reddit
Yeah he was 84 pounds when they found him. He was over 6 feet tall
ShortBrownAndUgly@reddit
William Duvall is 56 so maybe he just aged out of hitting those highs?
GreatGigInTheSky855@reddit
I’m sure that has something to do with it but Layne’s voice and ability just couldn’t be replicated. A lot of singers couldn’t hit those notes with the same consistency as him, even in their prime
fr4gge@reddit
One of the greats for sure. Even though he looks all fucked up on the unplugged show he still managed to put on a great performance
Suspekt_1@reddit
«Down in a hole» the unplugged version is beautiful and fucked up at the same time.
The_Salacious_Zaand@reddit
My all time favorite album to this day.
Softspokenclark@reddit
drugs will not nag or yell at me.
pussy will text you some dumb shit
CharlesEverettDekker@reddit
Life sucks if you're an idiot who doesn't know what to do with fame and money.
StolenDabloons@reddit
He should have taken a page out of your book and been a broke no bitch having troglodyte who’s sole comfort in life is to act like he understands the nuance of other peoples lives! I’m sure it makes you happy?
CharlesEverettDekker@reddit
Nah he shouldn't have been and idiot and shouldn't have used drugs. It is that simple, is it not? But you do you.
StolenDabloons@reddit
I’ll do me and keep my shit to myself, try it yourself next time.
El_Cringio@reddit
right on the money
Lonely_Eggplant_4990@reddit
I hope for your sake you never have to experience a mental health problem. Depression is one of the worst things in the world.
CharlesEverettDekker@reddit
Yeah and I guess using all kinds of drugs will suuurely cure your depression. Surely.
Lonely_Eggplant_4990@reddit
Omg, you figured it out! why didnt anyone ever think of that before!!!! Its called self medicating, dumbass.
The_Pagan_Mutt@reddit
Sex and material possessions cannot make one happy.
avagrantthought@reddit
I’m sure if he knew how to spend his money he wouldn’t be depressed. Cause that’s how depression works. Mismanagement of fun time money. Right?
2BEN-2C93@reddit
Give a 21 year old a fuck ton of money overnight, surround him with peers that are all skagheads. Also make sure his dad is a long term smack user.
See what happens
lumen-lotus@reddit
Looks like Logan Paul
Charlaton@reddit
Uncle Ted proven correct
Incoherence-r@reddit
If you hate yourself, you will die
loscapos5@reddit
TIL Alice in chains has nothing to do with Alice Cooper
GargamelLeNoir@reddit
That's the whole problem with fixating with one thing that will bring you happiness. Fame! Sex! Money! When I have these things I'll be happy! But that's not how happiness works, and some people can't stand the realization that there is no moment where you lock in the happily ever after.
milkbretheren@reddit
Layne Staley’s life can’t just be summed up like that, addiction is a horrible disease.
LikeSoda@reddit
He's famous because of his depressing lyrics. Do they think he just randomly decided to take all the drugs one day
cmapz2@reddit
My man 🥲
Graalf@reddit
That's gaming
FinestCrusader@reddit
Heroin is no joke. That's why you have these people who have been clean for 10 years relapsing. Most ex coke addicts agree that you only need to spend a few weeks in rehab and you don't feel the need to snort anymore. I've heard ex heroin addicts saying that you still feel the pull decades after the last dose.
PMME-SHIT-TALK@reddit
The sort of chronic clinical depression doesn’t improve with wealth or an extravagant lifestyle. The drugs and crazy shit certainly not going to help long term with that but some people are just seemingly born to suffer or something snaps in their brain at some point and they are just fucked long term. Shit Chris Cornell was wildly successful and was still writing songs about feeling not good enough and struggling with depression.
AcidEatersAnonymous@reddit
It was a bit more complicated than that. His fiancé died of an OD and he never recovered and just sank into a pit of despair.
saltire429@reddit
He was so reclusive that it took two full weeks for anyone to notice that he'd died. Even then, it was his accountant that raised the alarm after seeing that he hadn't withdrawn any money for two weeks. Desperately tragic.
ArtichokeFew7663@reddit
His MTV Unplugged vids are Pe/\k.
SunDX@reddit
The only thing left to do when you think you got it all is the thrill of losing it all.
Krotesk@reddit
Prime example of how loads of money won't necessary make you happy.
romulan267@reddit
I didn't know Logan Paul dabbled in singing too
iSeize@reddit
Gonna rock some AIC at work today
DaveSmith890@reddit
Everyone is out here fighting their demons. It would just be nice if nobody starved to death by losing their fight.
mmert138@reddit
Who is this?
Allthetendies@reddit
His name? Albert Rammstein.
lilpump006@reddit
Lil pump
GrImPiL_Sama@reddit
He aint looks like no lil
Vegetable-Broccoli36@reddit
Lil Yachty
WashYourEyesTwice@reddit
Little Yatchett
Seffuski@reddit
It's John Nirvana
2BEN-2C93@reddit
Layne Staley. Alice in Chains (original) singer.
Check them out even if you aren't a rock/metal guy. Anything they did in the 90s was with him.
He had an incredible voice.
Also if you prefer something more mellow, check out Mad Season. Supergroup from the 90s with him on vocals.
Ainteasybeincheezy@reddit
Lil Baby
FD4L@reddit
It saus Layne Stanley in the picture.
He was the lead vocalist of Alice in Chains.
Wildzebucxl@reddit
It is if you can’t find any meaning to it. Stop wasting your fucking time. I don’t know who needs to hear this but it’s probably me
BIG_BOTTOM_TEXT@reddit
Why would you assume being around women is a good thing
Altruistic_Settler@reddit
Maybe drugs are bad?
DerDudemeister@reddit
We die young
SomeLeftGuy633@reddit
Eat of the apple, so young
AK07-AYDAN@reddit
Didn't this dude live his final years gaming all the time?
Emergency_Draft1835@reddit
I'm gripping
Asylum_Patient_1126@reddit
yeah it does
now get on your knees before I bring out the belt
basilisk2828@reddit
happy birthday mick jagger
Be3Al2Si6O18-Cr@reddit
Sounds based