I used to work for Waco Aircraft Corp in Battle Creek MI, AMA
Posted by snowballschancehell@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 37 comments
Posted by snowballschancehell@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 37 comments
fatherselderberries@reddit
https://avbrief.com/waco-aircraft-ceases-operations/
This article popped up on my feed this morning and it caused me to do some Internet searching about Waco and I stumbled across this thread!
koalatykaty@reddit
my grandma worked there for a large portion of her life up until she passed. her husband still does if I remember correctly. I don't know why this popped up on my reddit feed but thank you for the smile :)
snowballschancehell@reddit (OP)
Who is her husband!! Thank you for sharing :)
koalatykaty@reddit
I sent it in a DM :)
noshpatu@reddit
I was today years old when I learned Waco still makes airplanes.
melikefood123@reddit
I'm a little airplane dumb. My dad used to fly and train people with his pitts special. Are these airplanes similar?
ZZ9ZA@reddit
No. The Pitts is much much higher performance.
melikefood123@reddit
Thanks for the explanation. I will say that the ones in this post are absolutely beautiful.
snowballschancehell@reddit (OP)
Thank you for answering them for me; I had no clue about comparing the capabilities between the two 😅
OldStromer@reddit
How fantastic! Thanks for sharing this.
snowballschancehell@reddit (OP)
My pleasure! I haven’t worked there in 7 years but I still find ways to drop it in conversationally that I used to build biplanes for a living. I really miss it. I’d love to get my pilot’s license someday but it is quite an expensive undertaking.
OldStromer@reddit
Yeah I would too. It's awesome you got to work in so many facets of the construction. I liked the description of the woods. I find it amazing how lightweight the construction of small planes can be. My all time favorite plane is the Mosquito. I can totally understand the desire to get your license. A buddy of mine made it happen but it took a long time because of the expense.
FrankiePoops@reddit
That green stain on the wood in picture 6 is gorgeous.
And after reading the comments, it sounds like you were paid like crap for what you did, but holy hell that's a great amount of experience you gained.
snowballschancehell@reddit (OP)
That green stain is butyrate dope!! It’s a nitrate primer applied to the wingwalks before covering and painted onto every bit of Dacron fabric after covering.
FrankiePoops@reddit
TIL. Either way, it looks cool.
BarrelDivesNSplitJs@reddit
Where are y’all getting the Jacobs engines? And is there a limited supply?
snowballschancehell@reddit (OP)
I’m told they are sourced from a company called Air Repair. Unsure of the availability / scarcity of Jacob’s.
BarrelDivesNSplitJs@reddit
Thanks for the reply! Hopefully they have enough stock to supply the Waco’s for a while.
Sage_Blue210@reddit
What were the details of your job? Building? Managing parts procurement? Admin?
snowballschancehell@reddit (OP)
I had no prior experience in aviation before this job. I initially was hired to work in the parts department where I would create work orders and job kits for the production floor. I only worked in the parts department for a month when the shop manager put me on the production floor to train in various departments.
I assisted in the covering department; finishing the wings, tails, and fuselage with Dacron and dope as well as making the leather interior paneling / seats for the cockpit. I did that for a few months before I moved to the composites department where I learned to work with fiberglass and carbon fiber making baffles, fairings, and wheel pants.
After that I landed in my final resting place, the wing shop. I worked there the longest but would sometimes still go to assist in the aforementioned covering and composite departments as needed. They called me their Jackie of All Trades. 🥹
I use the word “department” loosely; the covering department was one person, the composites department was one person, and the wood shop only had three other people in it besides myself. It was a very small operation while I worked there. We only produced 8-10 planes per year.
Liamnacuac@reddit
What a cool job to do. I think the same for Formula 1 pit crews and mechanics.
Sage_Blue210@reddit
That is a wide breadth of experience. If you like that type of work, you could also find positions in aircraft interior finishing for turboprops and business jets.
flowerpower4life@reddit
Did you know “handcrafted” is one word?
melikefood123@reddit
Don't be an ass hole.
2015Eh8@reddit
So. much. drool. Wacos are one of the prettiest planes out there.
penelopiecruise@reddit
What does all the wood look like when it arrives? how much did you machine it down yourselves versus it coming in already dimensioned?
snowballschancehell@reddit (OP)
The wood comes in multi dimensional 8’ long pieces (1/2” x 1/2”, 3/8” x 1/2”, 1/4” x 3/16”, etc etc) and 4’ x 8’ sheets. Mahogany, spruce, and birch.
Nothing you see here was / is machined. It’s all cut, sanded, and planed using basic woodshop tools / saws by hand.
hellholegolf@reddit
How much did you make an hour? Were you union? Where are you now?
snowballschancehell@reddit (OP)
I started working there in 2014 for $12/hour. Not union. It was a small operation when I worked there; about 20 people hands-on in the production side of things.
The president of the company at that time was paying the old heads (who’d worked there since the 80s) $17-$20/hour. The majority of my coworkers were married to higher earners and worked there for the novelty and enjoyment of the job.
I quit in 2017 to move across the state go to Michigan Institute of Aviation & Technology for my A&P license. I had every intention of getting certified and moving back to resume my position at Waco for hopefully more money, given my certification. The end goal being to obtain my pilot’s license.
Unfortunately, life happened, I had to drop out of school after 8 months and never completed the program.
Ironically, six months after I quit the company, the aforementioned stingy president sold Waco to a German billionaire who injected a buttload of money into the place and now it’s a much larger, cohesive operation with several more employees and even a fancy restaurant to boot. It’s a cool destination to which anyone can fly; KBTL is the airport.
Super_Tangerine_660@reddit
I’ve been there! I’ve eaten at that restaurant!!
isellJetparts@reddit
I used to live in Kzoo. How was that fly in restaurant they were running? I always wanted to try but it looks like it shut down.
snowballschancehell@reddit (OP)
Oh no, did it shut down?!
I replied to another comment here saying that during my tenure there, it was a very small operation with only 20 or so employees working production across two hangars. Six months after I quit, some billionaire from Germany bought Waco Aircraft and that’s when they added new buildings, significantly expanded, and built the restaurant. I ate there a handful of times when I’d come back to visit (I’m still friends and talk regularly with someone who still works there); excellent food and a delightful experience every time.
MustardNoBread@reddit
Is it way-co or whack-co? I’ve heard people say it both ways
snowballschancehell@reddit (OP)
Way-co is the city in Texas.
Whack-co is an animaniac.
It is pronounced Wah-Co.
speedbumptx@reddit
Why isn't Waco Aircraft located in Waco, TX?
Krawen13@reddit
The city of Waco, Texas is probably not an acronym for the Weaver Aircraft Company
UNDR08@reddit
No