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Dallas barber school shuts down abruptly

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Kit2603@reddit

Ok all you haters. Wake up. My daughter attended Bladecraft Academy and it was awesome. She also got her barber instructors license there and worked for Lily. Lily went to bat for my daughter both professionally and personally. Haters going to hate, but you obviously don’t know Lily, you just simply want to blame someone for your shortcomings
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Old-Succotash8332@reddit

Did you not read the original post? She had her favorites and made sure that those students succeeded while the majority were left to flounder. I worked a few shops down from her “academy” and every interaction I had with her was so off. It’s very much… the lights are on but no one’s home. 
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MortytheMortician9@reddit

You probably are Lily lol
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34staygold@reddit

Went to this school, something was always off- my classmates and I talked about the sketchiness EVERY DAY. I’m not surprised about this at all. I hope everyone gets what they deserve.
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34staygold@reddit

Okay since y’all asked, here is my experience in a complete nut shell: 1. Veterans had the worst treatment (I am not one, but many students are) They were owed a $2,500 reimbursement from the government but according to MANY fellow students, the school would hold their money hostage and they would basically have to go to e-mail war. 2. Turn over was immensely concerning. Instructors and staff were getting fired left and right, or forced to quit. This is when the students started to understand that something was off. The director, Lilly, even turned and fucked over one of her own family members that she hired. I saw the e-mail war. 3. Simply the vibe and energy in the room, and the way the whole program was navigated. Idk man, you had to be there. - They forced us to post on social media (super weird- they made us show them our social media posts to get a grade or to even clock out. Some of these students have a huge social media following… they don’t want to give the school free marketing, they already paid 15k. The posts were always cringey and nothing anyone wants to see, people literally don’t care what brand of shampoo we use in the school for crying out loud, they come for the cheap haircuts and to help students out. I always just screenshotted my “post” and just showed them my phone without actually posting. Idiots. - Floor time was always inconsistent (huge protocol discrepancies daily I.e. cleanliness, client service customaries, routines, etc) - They nudged us to push forward a false image. For example, it was clear as day to all the students that were already in the program that everyone was miserable, the program sucked, and the director was just straight up weird. Literally everyone hated it there, I’m not even exaggerating. So, every time a new class would start, they would make us go around the room and say why we chose Bladecraft Barber Academy. The answers were always dry. And the conclusion was always awkward. No one was genuinely excited to be there. One time, a new student that was 2 weeks into their program came up to me first thing in the morning and said “dude I want out” verbatim. 2 WEEKS! Young, ambitious, intelligent, innovative, incredible, handsome man- completely heart-shattered that the program isn’t anywhere near what he was expecting. - Every time someone goes against the grain in any capacity, Lilly bans them from the school. Most of her former employees are banned from the school. You almost couldn’t show any rebelliousness, even if you were being treated like complete shit. 4. When they opened a coffee shop in the academy, they pulled the rug from under the lovely coffee company. The owner of the coffee company was an absolute delight, I felt terrible when it happened. It was so sudden with very few answers, just like the academy closure- super sketchy. I’ll post a screenshot. 5. One of Lilly’s employees told me directly that Lilly talks mad shit about her students, and has favorites. The employee went on to tell me that that is why certain students get a good amount of clients, and others don’t. My class was complaining about that: select students that ALWAYS get the walk in clients. Students brought this up multiple times. Breaks my heart tbh, these people are just trying to build a basic foundation for their career. They were just curious to why they were being neglected. 6. I personally had a catastrophic season in my personal life so I couldn’t complete my program on time. So I had to stay past my contract and pay an additional $250 per week. Okay cool, no problem, I understand that- I missed school due to personal matters and now I have to pay for it, UNDERSTOOD THAT IS THE REAL WORLD. I approached Lilly and she promised me that I could clock in 45 hours/week instead of the normal 25 so that I could speed up the process and graduate. I was thankful of course. The MOMENT my contract was up, I received an email saying that if I want more than 25 hours/week, I would have to pay an ADDITIONAL $15/hour- I couldn’t clock in 45 hours without penalty as promised that’s a new total of $550 per week. The $15/hour is no where in my contract, they were just trying to get more money out of me. I even took off WEEKS off of work so that I could be at school for 45 hours/week instead of 25. I live by myself in Dallas, pay all my own bills, and was paying my tuition out-of-pocket. I was heart-broken to say the least. Mind you, a part of my catastrophe was losing multiple family members in less than 10 months. I was talking to one of my classmates about why I missed some school, Lilly happened to walk up, then nudged into the conversation for 4 seconds (as she does). I told her exactly what happened, horrible details and everything. Looked at me stone-cold in the eyes, said nothing at all and walked away. She can’t handle authentic connections/conversations with her students. She does this often, she has walked away while I was mid-sentence multiple times. At first it hurt my feelings but then I got used to it, especially after telling her about my dead family members. 7. BCBA/Lilly social media always settled weirdly with me. It’s now deleted. But it had thousands of followers and each post would get 8 likes with bot comments. Yet students would relocated across the nation to come to this school because of the reputation??? I feel so bad for them. Lilly published a book with several typos and run-on sentences. She had this interesting way of having a “good” reputation in Dallas, several people in her corner, etc. However there was something slightly off in her demeanor, personality, the way she treated people, simultaneously having this forced warm and fuzziness to her social navigation, power trippy sometimes. It’s almost like you had to be there. I call her the Dallas version of Jennifer Lopez, that’s the absolute best way I can describe it- if you know, you know. I could honestly go on, and like I said- it’s almost like you had to be there. Yet, everything that is coming out now 100% affirms the way I and other students felt about BCBA and Lilly personally. It’s a wildfire right now- I will also post some screen shots of what people are saying. Some screen shots are in relation to this YouTube video: https://youtu.be/KzuG-8XsMlg?si=UJwp5M3eq5wQkXM6 I even made a simple, honest comment and it got taken down immediately. I definitely hit a nerve lmao cause a lot of the comments are still up. In conclusion, I am so desensitized frankly by my personal chaos and the chaos the school put me through. So I don’t really feel any type of way about it, just watching the flames get higher while sippin’ on whiskey. I’m indifferent. I don’t care if she gets punished like she deserves, the worst punishment for her is having to be the person that she is. I’m going to move forward. I’m going to save my money, and go to a different school. Thankfully I LOVE barbering. It brings me so much joy. I’m thankful that this experience didn’t change the way I feel about the art of barbering. P.s. that was a big ass nutshell. P.s.s. Just realized I can’t post screenshots, y’all lmk if you wanna see everything that people are saying rn.
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tennisboy213@reddit

There was this educator that worked there years ago. Name was Nicole. Best haircuts I’ve ever had. Literally changed my life. She got pregnant a few years and the place has never been the same. I feel like she was critical to the school’s success. It seemed like she was the best teacher and Lily was the business side of things.
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GoldenTheGodless@reddit

Former student, I can also attest to this
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Cheesencrqckerz@reddit

Damnnnnnnnnnnnn “the worst punishment for her is having to be the person that she is” Also I’m really so sorry to hear about your experience with this school. Were you able to graduate? I hope you continue to pursue your dreams. Shitty things happen to good people. Lilly sounds like a miserable unstable bitch. Karma has a way of working things out. Enjoy that whiskey bruh!
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34staygold@reddit

Thank you for the kind words. Dude I only had like 6 weeks left!!! I’m way too motivated, I will get my license. Since day 1, I’ve said that BCBA does not define my caliber of skill- I do. They are simply a stepping stone to get that piece of paper so that I can be employed, and there are many stepping stones across the river. I’ll get there. Karma is alive and thriving. My fellow classmates and I called this a LONG time ago. I just didn’t realize that her demise was going to happen so soon? I assumed that one day, she would do/say the wrong thing to the right person. Guess that Deep Ellum rent swallowed her whole. Crazy part is, she can do it again and will. Mark my words.
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Cheesencrqckerz@reddit

Keep that positive attitude and you’ll definitely make it. I’m so inspired by people like you who don’t seem phased or deterred by setbacks. I wanna be like you when I grow up. Lol I hope she isn’t able to get away with this but I know business and I know dallas, so you’re probably 100% right in your prediction. Glad it’s not stopping you from pursuing your dreams and goals. Stay safe out there bruh and thanks for sharing your experience. 🖤
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34staygold@reddit

It’s all about mindset my friend, it takes some callous but it’s so worth it. You got this- I believe in you, genuinely. If you’re anything like me, feelings are very intense. Therefore, if I allow any of this or any of my setbacks in life get even an ounce of my actual soul- I’m fucked. I’m an over-thinker so it would definitely get the best of me. I cannot stand being disappointed, I go into a gnarly spiral. If I were to care about BCBA or Lilly, I would literally be in an episode right now making millions of phone calls, posts, contacting lawyers, etc. Takes practice but like I said, it’s so worth it- it helps knowing that the universe will ALWAYS take care of everything, as we are seeing right now in front of our own very eyes. You just gotta be a good person at the end of the day, it’s what my parents always taught me.
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Wonderful-Scar-5211@reddit

I missed the texts😭😭 do you have another link?
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H0TtoG0@reddit

This is more tea than the are we dating the same guy group! Thank you for feeding my need for chisme 😂 But for real though — this is insane. And people paid $15k to go there?! I hope she gets sued!
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Euphoric-Cow-8982@reddit

I have grave doubts about those ‘are we dating the same guy’ Facebook groups.  I think they’re abusive, cruel, and dehumanizing. You can see some terrible screenshots on r/awdtsgistoxic
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H0TtoG0@reddit

I think they are a great source to warn women against potentially harmful partners, including people who have a record of domestic abuse and sexual assault. When ai see a mug shot of a guy I was about to go on a date with, my only thought is THANK YOU! The men who are upset about these groups are commonly ones that are shitty people in general and they are scared of women talking to each other about it. Good men have nothing to fear.
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Euphoric-Cow-8982@reddit

\*\*\*'He who has nothing to hide, also has nothing to fear...'\*\*\* Do you know who you just quoted? 🤦‍♀️ Nevermind. I have 3 questions for you - * why does it have to be a secret? Why can't we tell men it exists? Why are we taught that we mustn't even tell our own brother if he posted? Or our own son? There is something very, very sinister about the secrecy isn't there? A secret Stasi permanent database of men, that women keep hidden from them. I wonder what that will mean for relationships between men and women in the future. I wonder how that will affect how we view them. How disrespected and dehumanized they will be. * Why is it non-consensual? Consent is so important in dating isn't it. Why can't we get their consent before posting them? Tell them it's a routine safety check before the first date. It's normal, it's what every woman does now. Why does that not work? * do you think every woman should join her local 'are we dating the same guy' group? So she is ready to provide 'intel' on any guy posted that she might know. Maybe it will happen eventually. I wonder what that world will look like.
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H0TtoG0@reddit

You seem really pressed. You ok? Did they talk about you? Sounds like you’ve got some big feelings, bud.
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Euphoric-Cow-8982@reddit

oh, honey, you're so sweet. 💖 It was Joseph Goebbels, by the way, just in case you want to rethink that line before you say it to anyone else.
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H0TtoG0@reddit

I have nothing to rethink. If a man is so hell-bent on hiding his past from a potential partner, he has something to hide and I’m thankful there are groups where women can talk about that. We aren’t talking about the government, we are talking about individual women who do not deserve to be lied to and manipulated by dangerous men. Go spew your crap somewhere else, because I am not the one ✌️
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Euphoric-Cow-8982@reddit

Ok, look at it from a different perspective. A man’s perspective. Here is a different perspective. A woman posts a guys name and photograph, without his knowledge or consent, to a secret online database that he is not allowed to even know about, cannot access, and has no right to reply, or right to request deletion. Once his ‘file’ has been created, other women then contribute whatever they know about him. His entire dating history, personal preferences, emotional vulnerabilities, occupation and financial status, medical records, what he was like in high school, and his intimate private measurements. (Yes, those measurements) The ‘file’ is permanent. Nothing is ever  deleted, and the database is easily searchable; type in his name, or a keyword, and quickly and easily scroll through all the photos until you find him. Nothing identifies a man better than a well lit, full frontal photograph of his face. And the internet is forever. That file will still be there in 10 years time, for his kids kindergarten teacher to review. Any woman can access the database, at any time, for any reason. To get information on a man, or to add it. HR advisors can quietly slip a guys job application into the trash, landladies can decide not to rent him her apartment, or to throw him out, a woman competing with a guy for promotion can smear him, the potential for divorce lawyers looking for a better alimony deal, is of course, enormous. ‘Are We Dating the Same Guy’ is a clandestine, underground, ‘alternative’ criminal justice system. An invisible, unattributable, women-only courthouse, that acts as judge, jury, and executioner. The only evidence required is the word of an anonymous woman on Facebook. Every city in the US has a group, with at least 50,000 women in each one. And they are growing constantly. Nurses, therapists, cops, lawyers, pharmacists. His hair-dresser, his co-workers, his bartender, his boss. Every man is now being watched, every minute of his every waking day, by every woman he interacts with. All ready to instantly report to the group when a request is made.  Group members often like to say, reassuringly, *’if you’ve done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear’* But who decides what ‘bad’ behavior is? DV and SA? Talking to multiple women at the same time? Ghosting? Not instantly complying with her every whim, no matter how unreasonable? At least 150 groups across at least 5 English speaking countries. The East German Ministry for State Security - the Stasi - had 147,000 civilian informants at its peak. AWDTSG has 3 million. And growing. And now we have established the principle that a woman can post a man’s name and photo, without his knowledge or consent, to this secret online forum, for her ’safety’, why should it stop at dating? Why shouldn’t any woman be allowed to post any man, if she feels ’unsafe’? The co-worker she has to work late in the office with alone? The guy who just moved in to the apartment next door? The guy who glanced in her direction on the subway for just a moment too long? And we think this will lead to happier, healthier, more respectful, egalitarian, colloborative, and even - loving - relationships between men and women. 
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H0TtoG0@reddit

This is all nonsense. I’m not entertaining your rhetoric. Men have the same groups about women and if I were to be posted — I’d be fine with it. Why? Because anything someone is willing to say about me is something I’m willing to say about myself first. Acting like it’s some secret society 😂😂😂 Grow up.
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Euphoric-Cow-8982@reddit

***’Acting like it’s some secret society’*** *’Rule 1. You will be permanently banned from this group if you…mention this group or the existence of groups like this on social media, on a podcast, on the radio, to the media, anywhere in public, or to any male friends’* It sure sounds like a secret society to me. 
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H0TtoG0@reddit

Then how do you know about it? 💁🏻‍♀️😂
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Euphoric-Cow-8982@reddit

There have been some very brave, (very, very brave), very ethical, very moral female journalists who have risked the hatred of the mob to publicize it, haven’t there. They are grossly under-recognized, IMHO, but I think history will remember them favorably. 
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H0TtoG0@reddit

History will not give a shit about any of this 😂
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Euphoric-Cow-8982@reddit

I think you underestimate how much power AWDTSG has, the harm it is causing, and what the future may look like. 
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H0TtoG0@reddit

I think you are a crusader for a cause nobody gives a crap about except you.
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Euphoric-Cow-8982@reddit

I guess we can agree that no-one cares about the harm being caused to men, yes.  Or at least, no-one cares until it happens to their own brother, or their own son, or their own loving and entirely faithful husband…no, wait, that couldn’t happen…could it…?
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34staygold@reddit

Haha EVERYONE is into the chisme, I’m screaming lmaoooo Yeah 15k dude… I was paying $800-$1,000 per month OUT OF POCKET, just for her to shut down. I only have 6 weeks to go… it’s okay though I’ll finish elsewhere.
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H0TtoG0@reddit

Finish elsewhere heheh…That’s what he said… I’m really sorry that happened. That really sucks. But I seriously hope that you guys get together and sue the shit out of her cause that’s cold as fuck.
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34staygold@reddit

Not the first time I had to say that lmao
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H0TtoG0@reddit

That’s enough 😂 You’re in timeout 😂
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A_non_uH_mouse@reddit

Not surprised! When i was living there and when they shutdown the coffee shop I knew something was up. Years ago, when they first opened up the bar inside high and tight (same owners i believe [cody] of crowdus, high and tight ) one of the bartenders lost my card because she didn't put it in the credit card holder and instead, she slid it under the computer register (weird and why) and when i closed my tab i explained she is forgetting she put it under there and she said "no that's stupid she wouldn't do that" i was pissed! She would NOT check! Months later, after I already canceled everything on that account, bills and all and got a new card, she calls me to apologize and that they found my card under the register.....sounds like her name was Lilly lol.
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Myquil-Wylsun@reddit

That is so wild! I'm totally invested if you have the time to post screenshots.
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34staygold@reddit

IG: redditacademyclosure
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LittleTXBigAZ@reddit

Gone already?!
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34staygold@reddit

It’s under stories
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Myquil-Wylsun@reddit

That was an absolute wild ride. Thank you for delivering! My thirst for tea has been quenched. This shit is crazy.
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partybug1@reddit

Right!!! The tea was piping hot!
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Consistent_Sorbet_29@reddit

testify!
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happy1000x@reddit

I agree with everything you said. She was weird. Always got the vibes. When I finished school it’s like I was not worth talking to. She never seemed interested in being real. I went there. I finished. I felt like I was nothing but money and not anything else. I basically taught myself. Because she was never there. Good instructors left or were fired. Her demeanor seemed sketch to me. Classmates disappeared when I first met them they were so happy until poof they were gone. I hated it but I slapped on the happy face to get thru the 8am to 8pm full day.
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Myquil-Wylsun@reddit

I wanna know the tea too
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34staygold@reddit

@redditacademyclosure IG
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34staygold@reddit

Just posted. Also I’m kinda new to Reddit so lmk if there’s a way I can show y’all the screenshots of what everyone is saying rn.
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Cheesencrqckerz@reddit

Please elaborate
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34staygold@reddit

Just posted under my og comment
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34staygold@reddit

More than happy to elaborate, I’ll type it out when I have some more time.
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Specialist-Orange-59@reddit

What sketchiness?
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Herry_Up@reddit

Sir, you cannot just tease us like this.
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AfternoonOpening2046@reddit

Sounds like A scam going on
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34staygold@reddit

That’s literally what it was. I learned more on YouTube.
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Luanne_platterrrrr@reddit

Can you post the YouTube link? please
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MTGreeneHasAPenis@reddit

If there are any city sponsored schools in the area, they should credit the students, their money and hours. Like she said… Your business doesn’t just close overnight without any forewarning. The deal with the owner and the school in Duncanville is nice, but that is going to be a huge commute for people, as public transportation is not as easily accessible in rural areas. Also…what’s the reputation of the school in Duncanville?
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Ki77ycat@reddit

Those places operate on a razor thin budget.
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Consistent_Sorbet_29@reddit

rent probably going for $60/sqft or more im guessing?
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Ki77ycat@reddit

Whoosh, right over your head! 😆
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Feisty_Contract8661@reddit

i just enrolled back in june for the crossover program and only attended three classes before the school shut down. they made me pay $2,600 for a tool kit i never received. lilly emailed me basically saying sorry but i’m not getting my money back. i’m planning on getting legal assistance because of this lol
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erod100@reddit

I bet rent was an issue and was operating in the red. Or their accounting books where maintained by someone who didn’t have a clue what they were doing .
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OutlawSundown@reddit

Deep Ellum seems like it would be a beating on rent.
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soonerfreak@reddit

Yep, and from what I heard when Braindead started having problems the owners, that property group Westlake maybe? They refused to even negotiate on the rent from what I heard during COVID when nothing could be open so it just built up.
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minty-teaa@reddit

Waestdale also refused to renew the lease for Wits End. That’s when I stopped going to deep ellum.
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edblsm@reddit

I also stopped going to deep when wits end closed. Probably one of the best and relaxing spots in the area. I loved pulling up alone and sitting at the top looking at the city while I drank my beer.
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MsBlueBonnet@reddit

Soooo fuck Westlake Properties, Investments, whatever the fuck it is? Ugh.
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Stove-Top-Steve@reddit

Westdale. They definitely have a monopoly on the area.
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erod100@reddit

They suck out the soul of deep Ellum.
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charlie-foxtrot3@reddit

It absolutely is 😭
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TX_ftw@reddit

I guess they didn't make the cut... I'll see myself out.
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mrarmyant@reddit

They saw themselves out.
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lost_in_trepidation@reddit

Faded
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Henry_Rosenburg@reddit

Sick burns y'all
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Bbkingml13@reddit

Side burns
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ThatOneUpittyGuy@reddit

[YEAHHHHHH](https://images.app.goo.gl/Y7pYkar5krG2TQvUA)
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JaciOrca@reddit

😂 take my upvote
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JoseMich@reddit

Did that lady have a poster of her own book in the background the whole time while she talked about her daughter getting fucked over?
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Actually_My_Dude@reddit

Looked like she did the interview from her home office. Pretty goofy for you to have that takeaway from this story lmao. You must work for the sketchy owner 🤪
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Gaiter14@reddit

[Author Biography ](https://books.google.com/books/about/Create_Something.html?id=s9ts0AEACAAJ&source=kp_author_description) I'd like to know how, if at all, she was; >Deeply involved in her community And what does the closure mean for her chair position >she holds a chair at the Deep Ellum Foundation Association
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No-Insurance-276@reddit

Sheesh
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leeny1018@reddit

We were there two weeks ago. It took two and a half hours for a straight edge shave. Yes, you read that right. The owner had to approve every single step before the barber could move on, but she was busy hosting tours and chatting up three separate groups of folks that came to meet with her during business hours. So, we had to wait for her to come around in between her business meetings.
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34staygold@reddit

Former student here. This is EXACTLY how it was. It was infuriating to say the least. There’s like almost nothing in that noggin, genuinely mind-blowing.
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bcrabill@reddit

The semester was...cut short?
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heatmanj@reddit

My buddy just signed up for classes, I heard they aren’t going to reimburse the most recent student
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scroto_gaggins@reddit

This is one of my go to spots. Cuts would take forever tho but they’re students so it’s expected. I think they only charged like $15 for cuts + beard lineups. Stopped taking tips as well. They also sometimes would give shampoos and facials. I guess business wasn’t that good
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MortytheMortician9@reddit

Went there for a day. It was bizarre and weird. They screwed up my GI Bill money.
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cocoabuttersamurai@reddit

Was my go-to spot for years, could get a high quality cut for cheap. This is a bummer!
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Fiss@reddit

Normal mismanagement of money and they just closed up
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VegetableAd7617@reddit

THANTS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN JUST ANYBODY OPENS A SCHOOL , IT TAKES ALOT. AND IF THERE ISNT ANY FINACIAL AID THE SCHOOL DEPENDS ON ENROLLMENT ONLY. FINACIAL AID ISNT GIVEN TO A SCHOOL UNTILL AFTER AT LEAST 5 YEARS OF BEING OPEN. I've seem this happen so many time.... someone wants to open up a school and all they see is all that money students are paying ...but you have bills, expenses, rent, instructor wages. I recommend going to a school that has been around for a long time and in nationwide The owners new from the beginning they weren't making it. You just don't close. They just kept taking money till they got kicked out I bet.
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jesuisunvampir@reddit

Lilly Benitez the owner deleted all her social media.. i remmeber seeing her on IG the other week and was really curious as to how she is able to run like 3 businesses... i guess she can't..
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TransportationEng@reddit

3... 2...
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falcon_driver@reddit

Nice of the station to throw a little adult survival technique in there for the ex-students, I hope they take advantage.
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