McDonnell Douglas JSF proposal - Not a fat Amy
Posted by Dead_Chan67@reddit | WeirdWings | View on Reddit | 31 comments
Shown here is McD’s proposal for the super expensive JSF program, which encompasses variants for the U.S. Air Force (CTOL), Navy (Carrier) & Marine Corps (VTOL), but was likely doomed from the Boeing merger and a few other reasons. A very sexy looking aircraft concept, kinda resembles the YF-23, one of the coolest fighter designs of all time and the newer MQ-28 Ghost Bat UAV.
Asleep-Mouse1648@reddit
the bae tempest concept, the mq28 ghost bat, and the mitsubishi f3x godzilla concept are all based on this 1 design
Left-Cap-6046@reddit
As someone from r/FighterJets said, Boeing could have picked this up as the X-32 instead of the design they went with. This may have helped them win the contract too probably.
Clear-Visual2702@reddit
I think the major point you hit on the head is that the MQ-28 is (except thinned wings, single engine) a small YF-23 in appearance, so us fans are actually getting to see a see similar airframe in service as the first of the unmanned allie fighters!
ErayCulfa@reddit
especially the tail part
ErayCulfa@reddit
russians must be taking inspirations from this to the SU-75
DukeOfBattleRifles@reddit
Its wing configuration looks like early BAE Tempest designs
houtex727@reddit
Excepting the tail, this looks extremely F-35 looking...?
Perhaps whoever was designing this went over to Lockheed... shrugs
OkAbbreviations9941@reddit
Look like they stole the wings off of a McDonnell F-101 Voodoo, though.
okonom@reddit
To me the wings look very F-15 derived, they basically enforced edge alignment for stealth and chopped of slightly less of the outboard trailing edge corner than they did for the production F-15. The original F-15 prototype had an issue with buffeting in that section of the wing tip so they "clipped" the wing tip. At some point they must have determined that they could get away with clipping less of the wing.
NeighborhoodParty982@reddit
I'd go back all the way and say F-101 derived
Dead_Chan67@reddit (OP)
Also to mention the very F-22 looking intakes
HumpyPocock@reddit
Not all that surprising. Looking at the inlets on the F-22 and F-35, one of the clearest defining differences, both in a visual and an aerodynamic sense, comes from the latter having Diverterless Supersonic Inlet, which Lockheed Martin had only invented (and patented) a few years prior to slapping it on the X-35.
NB — Code One is a publication from Lockheed Martin.
afrench1618@reddit
🤔
captainjack3@reddit
Eh, the Su-75 has far more similarities to the X-32. Particularly the new revision of the design which extends the delta tail quite a bit to be even with the plane’s rear edge.
afrench1618@reddit
That is true.
I’ve always been curious about this…what the hell happens to X plane designs that aren’t accepted?
Asking because of the uncanny similarities between this and the x-32.
(I do know I’m general that the variation of design for stealth fighters are pretty limited because of the geometry needed to achieve small cross sections)
FullAir4341@reddit
I love her, but not as much as fat Amy
AceArchangel@reddit
Okay go back to bed, Bill.
FullAir4341@reddit
I didn't realise how it looked like until now. I was, of course referring to the X-32 concept.
AceArchangel@reddit
Definitely thought it was a Bill Clinton reference given the JSF program began the year he took office, my bad
Anindefensiblefart@reddit
The X-32 Billy Bigmouth Bass is the real lost treasure of the JSF program.
AceArchangel@reddit
He was just happy to be there.
syringistic@reddit
HEEEE HUE HUE HUUUU
huntingteacher50@reddit
I’ll tell you what it really is all about. The design to get the US government and allies to part with billions of our tax dollars. I love airplanes but I like not blowing huge sums on these high end projects. Especially when drone tech seems way more cost effective
Vairman@reddit
How is this "McD's proposal"? It was a joint McD/Northrop proposal. Get it right OP. In spite of getting royally shafted by them on the F-18, Northrop LOVED jumping into bed with McD.
emurange205@reddit
Wings look like they came off the F-101.
oojiflip@reddit
The hump behind the canopy was an immediate tell that it's a VTOL
Sonnysdad@reddit
Should have been in “Who killed Captain Alex?!”
Fentron3000@reddit
So that’s where Rockstar Games came up with the F-160 Raiju from.
bCup83@reddit
Without the cellulose won't fit many gizmos.
Ragnarok_Stravius@reddit
Really love the tail less designs for the JSF program.
Instead we got a compacted F-22 that looks fat.
ozbikebuddy@reddit
This was a design that seems to have been reborn as a ucav, aka Boeing Ghostbat