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5 cylinder engines seem pretty interesting, would it be a difficult task for a stock car engine manufacture to engineer a design given they're use to V8s or V10s?

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Accurate_Rock_4170@reddit

Technically it would not be all that difficult to make an engine with any number of cylinders. The difficulty comes with performance.
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earthman34@reddit

5 cylinder engines are a dead end, they're fundamentally out of balance, so you need a significant counterweight setup and strong damping, which adds weight and reduces power.
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Sketch2029@reddit

This is true, but they're less out of balance than inline 4 cylinder engines and that doesn't stop people from building inline 4s...
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earthman34@reddit

You don't know what you're talking about. Apparently you don't understand how 4-cycle engines work. Inline 4 cylinders have perfect primary balance and imperfect secondary balance. A 5 cylinder engine is ***fundamentally*** out of balance, with 2 cylinders in one position, 2 cylinders 180 degrees opposite, and one cylinder 90 degrees out of sync.
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Sketch2029@reddit

While what you say here is true, it doesn't tell the whole story and also ignores my point that every modern inline 4 also uses balance shafts. Yes, you could get away with not having them on an I4, unlike a I5. There have been a few production engines which did (like GM's Iron Duke and early Quad 4s) and they have reputations for being very rough engines. The other thing is that while inline fours do have perfect primary balance, they also have a gap between power cycles which is not present with five cylinders. That means inline fives have smoother power delivery.
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earthman34@reddit

Also, every modern 4 cylinder doesn't use balance shafts.
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Sketch2029@reddit

I was only thinking about passenger cars. There may be some bikes or commercial vehicles or race cars or whatever else where NVH isn't a concern that don't use them.
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earthman34@reddit

You're very confused. There's lots of cars that don't use them.
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earthman34@reddit

Dude, they didn't use balance shafts in 4 cylinder engines for 80 years before they did. Nobody bitched about how rough they were. In a 5 cylinder you have a whole piston and rod that doesn't match up against anything else. Why not do a 7 cylinder? How about 9?🙄
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RKEPhoto@reddit

That's odd, considering how many auto makers have put them in cars! lol
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earthman34@reddit

They put Wankels in cars too. And steam engines. And turbines. What's your point? It's an engineering dead end.
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RKEPhoto@reddit

Clearly the 5 cylinder engine's advantages are lost in your pre conceived notions. What a shame.
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series-hybrid@reddit

Engine engineers love this stuff, and if tasked with designing an inline 5-cylinder, they will likely already have a database on existing designs with bore/stroke, valve sizes and cam lift, along with graphs of the Horsepower and torque curves. Mazda made a tiny 2.0L V6, and Porsche made a large 4.0L inline 4-cylinder for the 944. You know who already knows that? Engine engineers. They are engine nerds.
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mortalcrawad66@reddit

Or like the Porsche FWD turbo I6 used in the Daewoo Tosca
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Enge712@reddit

Or the VW W12 that was two VR6s
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rip0971@reddit

See Audi: World rally champion with turbo i5's and sold millions of i5's thru out the world starting in the 80's, I believe.
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-HELLAFELLA-@reddit

I drive a 2006 Hummer H3 with the I5, fucking love it
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RKEPhoto@reddit

"Smaller and cheaper than a six, smoother and more powerful than a four. Or is it the performance of a four with the fuel economy of a six? The inline five-cylinder engine can be any of those things. " [https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15087001/five-alive-all-the-notable-cars-we-know-with-five-cylinder-engines/?slide=8](https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15087001/five-alive-all-the-notable-cars-we-know-with-five-cylinder-engines/?slide=8)
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HDauthentic@reddit

A V10 is essentially two inline 5s stuck together on one crankshaft
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TheGrizzlyNinja@reddit

VW made a 2.5 naturally aspirated inline 5 in the 2010s. It’s one of the most reliable engines they’ve ever made and they also sound amazing. I’m guessing the reason they replaced it with 1.5 turbos is MPG
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imothers@reddit

Audi started out with a 10 valve 2.5 5 cylinder in the early 80's in the Coupe and the Audi 100, also known as the 5000 in N America. I had a '93 eurovan with a 2.5 5 cylinder. They were pretty durable engines. Unfortunately, you tend to get the power of a 4 cylinder and the economy of a 6 cylinder. They were trying to get it to be the other way around, but no luck...
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Sketch2029@reddit

Not to be confused with the VR5, which is a compact V5 engine. VW gas made some weird engines over the years.
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the_Bryan_dude@reddit

That 2.5 block is half of a Lamborghini v10.
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Dedward5@reddit

I think this a somewhat America centric question.
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ber808@reddit

Everyone's talking inline 5 and thats neat but google the vr5 because thats just fun, staggered 5 cylinder
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OffensiveBiatch@reddit

My 74 MB 300 D had an inline 5 diesel. It isn't the most HP per displacement, but constant torque through RPMs, and 40-45 mpg in a 4000 lbs vehicle.
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RealSprooseMoose@reddit

VAG had their inline 5. Honda produced an inline 5 in the JDM market. GM had an inline 5 in the hummer/canyon/Colorado family
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inapropriateDrunkard@reddit

Honda released the five cylinder in the US under the Acura badge. The Vigor in the early '90s and the TL in the mid to late 90s.
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Gatesy840@reddit

Rs3 is a inline 5 My current daily a 16 ford ranger is a 5 cyl inline diesel
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UsefulEmptySpace@reddit

Volvo made 5 cylinder engines until 2012, usually marine engines
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Cranks_No_Start@reddit

>usually marine engines I know they had a marine 4cy but Volvo had an I5 from 93 up to IIRC 2014.
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VetteBuilder@reddit

You can add one to a 4 or cut down a 6, shaking all the way to the bank
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