Home Insurance increasing 41% this year!?
Posted by IranianLawyer@reddit | Dallas | View on Reddit | 282 comments
I just got a letter from Geico saying my premium is increasing from $3,526 to $4,978 — an increase of 41%. I’m obviously going to call to dispute this, but I’m just curious if anyone else has seen anything like this.
Possible_Jury_474@reddit
Insured with State Farm and mine went from $ 2,900 to 4,000 this year. I started to shop around but other rates are even higher. Called them and decided to change the deductible to 3%
RosyMemeLord@reddit
Insurance companies are an overpriced scam that most can't afford to live without. Fuck ALL of them (car, home, health,etc). I hope all the CEOs trip into a pile of used tetanus needles and THEIR insurance denies the claim.
coloredinlight@reddit
I get why insurance has its benefits. But that fact that they can take advantage of people who most likely never file a claim and are forced to have coverage in most cases is a vile practice.
spacepirateprincess@reddit
And if you ask they say "we don't control it, insurance has gone up 38% nationwide"
BlazinAzn38@reddit
It really wouldn’t be as big of issue if they were non-profit institutions but they’re not so they generate shareholder value by raising rates and lessening payouts
Skitts18@reddit
Most insurance is sold at cost. They make money investing the money until you need to use it. Everybody is inevitably going to make a claim at one point. Companies competing keeps it low.
Fraud, which is very common in homeowners, is what drives the cost up. Along with abnormal weather.
Lots of insurance companies are mutual companies, i.e. they don't really have stocks. The shareholders are those who own insurance.
Haunting_Cupcake_623@reddit
Sure bud
Skitts18@reddit
lol... I work for a insurer and they have literally lost billions the last few years. Just yesterday they mentioned in our town hall that they always expect to lose 3% and then make it up with investments. It's highly regulated anyways. During covid car insurers had to give billions of dollars back to policies or be sued. And yes, multiple insurers still got sued. The ones who rebated the money prior to being sued used it as good PR, but the reality is that they legally can't make that excessive profit.
That doesn't mean the overhead is 100% justified. CEO's still make millions a year and that's wrapped up in the cost.
You are free to debate or disagree with me, but respectfully use the upvote system instead of a condescending comment with zero sustenance.
rambo6986@reddit
And to be fair if it was run by the government it would be so inefficient that it would probably be more expensive
permalink_save@reddit
In other countries, you can put up with the government system and get near free healthcare or pay money to go somewhere private. People aren't dying because the choice is igbore health or get stuck with a huge bill that wipes out your savings. People actually end up dying as a result of privatized healthcare and insurance.
rambo6986@reddit
People who don't have insurance don't have to die. That would be by choice if they need a lifesaving procedure. You can not be turned away in those instances.
permalink_save@reddit
People regularly avoid going to a doctor for issues that later turn life threatening. Stomach pain for a week? Might as well see if it is fine tomorrow and hope it's not something serious. People do this regularly in the US because diagnostics are crazy expensive and insurance fuckery and hospitals threatening to report to your credit means people just don't want to bother.
rambo6986@reddit
On the flip side it can take months to get routine exams/tests done in these Countries with free healthcare. The grass ain't always greener and you should stop talking in absolutes
Cecil900@reddit
lol here in Texas it’s 6 months to see my ophthalmologist, and 3 months to see my primary doctor.
rambo6986@reddit
You may want to try getting in somewhere else
Cecil900@reddit
I have.
permalink_save@reddit
Oh okay, we must be fine then. You are right, how foolish of us to want free healthcare. It's easier to just die in poverty.
rambo6986@reddit
First it's not free. You pay higher taxes. Second, I would love universal healthcare but it's far from a perfect solution
Nubras@reddit
Yeah it would in Texas for sure. But in properly functioning states it’d be a gigantic improvement.
datdouche@reddit
Had a prof tell me insurance companies are in the business of denying claims.
rambo6986@reddit
Make sure to make claims about almost everything on your house next storm. If they are gonna screw you get even
yottabit42@reddit
Sounds good in principle but they'll drop you at 1 or 2 claims.
rambo6986@reddit
No they won't. Ive had claims in the past. It's just part of the deal
PM_me_snowy_pics@reddit
That's what a lot of companies are, in fact, doing now.
rambo6986@reddit
Then you move on to another company. Gotta call around.
lotusflower_3@reddit
You are correct!!!! We got a notice in the mail that because we had a claim due to water damage, we were in danger of losing our coverage. We have been with this company for decades!!!!
notsure9191@reddit
Thats a great way to increase premiums.
rambo6986@reddit
They will increase them anyways. What's your point
notsure9191@reddit
I didn’t realize at first that you don’t understand cause and effect relationships. You lean more into emotional responses. You can go about your day.
rambo6986@reddit
And I didn't realize your not understanding that we live in a "get mine" economy now. Everyone's being left because of greed of individuals and companies. If you aren't gaming the system with them you'll be left behind. Don't kill the messenger. I didn't change the rules since covid.
notsure9191@reddit
Great idea. Enough people follow your lead and insurance companies refuse to provide service for the area they live in. You think rates are high now, they’ll be tripled in no time. But at least you got to feel good for a little while.
rambo6986@reddit
You think what I said matters at all? It's headed for a collapse anyways with climate change and skyrocketing home prices. Go look at California and Florida
MagicWishMonkey@reddit
They aren't taking advantage of anyone, they charge based on statistical models that tell them how expensive it will be to fix/replace your home if it's damaged/destroyed by a storm/flood/fire/whatever.
The fundamental issue is that climate change has made it much more likely that your home will be damaged/destroyed and when you consider that construction costs are much higher today than in previous years, the insurance companies have to either increase their rates or pull out of high risk markets.
beaute-brune@reddit
Tell the other half: they make most of their money off generating underwriting profit and then reinvesting it into other interest-generating assets, holding onto enough money in cash to pay out their expected claims while the rest is invested. They get to bet on your risk due to legal mandates that dictate everyone else has to pay them to do so, and opt out when they so choose to not bet at that particular casino (i.e. climate-affected areas). Probability is always in their favor as a result.
Applejacks_pewpew@reddit
While they are a profit driven business, insurance companies lost over $1 billion last year. The last few years have been bad for insurance with increased building costs, disasters, and the end of cheap money. My home insurance has increased by 50% since I bought in 2022– and my home is a 1960s ranch!
Nubras@reddit
I don’t know the source of your numbers or their veracity so I’ll take them at face value: a billion dollar loss is nothing for a trillion dollar industry. How many insurance companies are there? A billion dollar loss is a rounding error. Chubb’s most recent annual revenue was over $52b and net income was almost $3b. It’s ok to lose money one year. Profits aren’t guaranteed and they aren’t entitled to them. But the TX insurance commission will surely approve the max permissible rate hike.
Applejacks_pewpew@reddit
“The U.S. property/casualty (P&C) insurance sector experienced its worst underwriting loss in a decade in 2023, due to severe weather-related losses, persistent inflation, and rising reinsurance pricing, according to rating agency AM Best…. catastrophe losses of approximately $65 billion contributed significantly to the U.S. P&C industry’s underwriting loss.
Shortsocks53@reddit
As much As I cant stand what this guy is saying it is infuriating and unfortunately true. Not saying that insurance companies haven't been a bunch of greedy dicks. But the business model for insurance companies is very antiquated and didn't take into effect the massive Issue of climate change. And unfortunately again our infrastructure and belief systems haven't come into sync.
I believe that we are a very extremely far from Finding a lasting solution when such a massive portion of the population doesnt even believe in Climate change or its effects on economics to begin with.
I dont think downvoting him is necessary. I dont like what he is saying because its mostly true.
Its really fucking bad. You're a homeowner and you get fucked. You're a renter and you get fucked.
MagicWishMonkey@reddit
I think people are mad at me for pointing out that for profit businesses exist to make money, and if they can’t make money they go out of business or leave the market.
peese-of-cawffee@reddit
I think their collusion with supporting industries to drive up prices, and thus premiums, is the more important problem. Requiring insurance often benefits the people around you just as much as it benefits you, but what they actually end up making you pay for is a problem.
GustavusAdolphin@reddit
Rising premiums is a function of paid claims losses, not the other way around. There's no incentive for carriers to artificially inflate claim payouts in the hopes that they make it up in premium inflation on the back end.
If you paid $10k in premium over the life of the policy, have a $9k claim, they inflate it to $11k, then you term your policy, then they lost $1k on the policy which was $2k more than they had to lose. That just doesn't make sense
Brilhasti1@reddit
They are for-profit so they will look to fuck their subscribers so that shareholders get fat dividends.
Welcome to late-stage capitalism.
FormerlyUserLFC@reddit
Is it a scam if they are also losing money?
RosyMemeLord@reddit
Everyone loses money on crypto currency and thats still a scam 🤷♂️
thelivingworld@reddit
Isn't the profit margins for insurance companies somewhere between 2-3%? They may engage in scammy tactics but it seems like they just scrape by, highly paid executives excluded.
SentimentalSaladBowl@reddit
I mean. I used to say the same thing, and then my house burned down. My life is SHIT right now. But without insurance I would be destitute instead of sitting in a rental while they rebuild my home.
So I feel confident insurance is something I’d recommend. If you get lucky, you’ll never need it.
You know?
REMINDER TO CHECK
DOES YOUR COVERAGE COVER THE COST TO REBUILD YOUR HOUSE? Replace all of your things? If not, reassess your policy and update it to reflect the actual amount of coverage you need.
RosyMemeLord@reddit
Oh absolutely dude. After i got done with healthcare i shifted to running a construction company and ive seen A LOT of claims where if the house was totaled they just wrote a check that didnt equal anything NEAR the value of the home and said good luck.
I'm glad your company seems to be taking care of you though!!!
xxxams@reddit
Bro you have strong hate tetanus? I take it you know what that does the body? you made me laugh out loud.
RosyMemeLord@reddit
Tbh i didnt want another comment removed from this sub so i was trying to tone it down. You dont work 7 years in healthcare and process AT LEAST a million insurance claims without developing an intense hatred for private for-profit health insurance companies 😬
I gotta tell you bro, telling a mom her kid's cancer meds arnt covered any more because insurance just dosnt feel like it any more is a bad time man 👌😎👌
xxxams@reddit
Right like the Pharmacy that has a gag order on them the second that you say you have insurance not to mention right off a CT machine that came from South Africa that is 35 years old we're still going to charge like it's brand new fucking 120 slice CT
bananabob23@reddit
Scream it from the rooftops! Why is my car insurance just barely less than my payment? It’s not my fault Brendas 17 year old got a new Range Rover and totaled it
RosyMemeLord@reddit
Y'all don't forget to vote in december is all i got to say 🤦♂️
MaddieMorrisVA@reddit
sorry when
RosyMemeLord@reddit
NOVEMBER. (And also march, sometimes may, and the occasional random pta meeting in September or june).
Please forgive me, im american. Our cryptic electing system is made even more difficult by our relatively low literacy rates 😮💨
MaddieMorrisVA@reddit
lol you’re good with me. it’s been a long year.
RosyMemeLord@reddit
Been a long LIFE, homie 😮💨
Shortsocks53@reddit
Man. Brenda. She cant drive for shit. Lol.
permalink_save@reddit
Pay $400/mo for my family. Kid goes to the ER for possible concussion, has COVID, we have to pay 3 grand for the ordeal. What is the point of insurance then? Deductibles need to go, it doesn't discourage small claims it just prevents people from using the service they are paying for. Insurance is a huge scam.
saintsfan342000@reddit
Of course on Reddit this is the top comment
KellyAnn3106@reddit
Most deductibles are also increasing for hail and wind damage. No one seems to be writing 1% policies after this year. Pay more, get less...the new motto for insurance.
markymark7621@reddit
AAA still writing 1%. And giving replacement cost for roofs. We just switched to them because everything else and our previous Farmers was crazy expensive.
butcheroftexas@reddit
I just called AAA and they refused to insure my home because our tile roof is more than 15 years old.
ChefMikeDFW@reddit
Check your policy as most policies are 1% for only very specific things that may affect a roof. Wind and hail (the most common thing to have a roof replaced) are at 2%.
jasoncongo@reddit
I wish I could get a policy that excluded my roof. I'm basically going to have to pay in full for it anyway, it's of little to no benefit to pretend insurance is covering something.
captainn_chunk@reddit
That’s the new motto for almost everything now. Material goods just the same.
dwintaylor@reddit
I use Berkshire Hathaway Insurance and they still write a 1% policy. I could have gone with a different insurer or gone to 2% to save myself some money but I fear how much it would cost me in the long run.
penguinKangaroo@reddit
1% difference on your coverage a which is prolly 400k is 4k.
So you’re at risk 4k more dollars if something really really bad happens. And if that happens you’re kinda fucked already so 4k more and gonna mean a lot imo.
I’d rather save 500-1k a year on insurance premiums switching from 1 to 2%
KellyAnn3106@reddit
Good to know! My renewal isn't up for several months but all of my friends and neighbors have said they were moved to 2% without any option to stay at 1%.
Max_Powers1331@reddit
We have safeco and ours is also 1%
DaddyDontTakeNoMess@reddit
Be careful with Berkshire. They are 1% but have very restrictive policies, like, they won’t cover cosmetic issues caused by hail, so you have to go back and forth and push really hard.
BanTrumpkins24@reddit
Rates are climbing here and nationally for property insurance and locally even more. Locally and regionally (Texas) several insurance carriers have exited the market, restricted business only to renewals vs writing new business. The reasons are 1. We are in an area with severe convective storms. 2. The cost of building materials and labor has gone up dramatically over the past few years. 3. Consumer abuse of property insurance, with padded claims, pushing for replacement of roofs with hail. This drives up loss costs leading to insurers restricting writing new business and increasing premium. The good news is with higher rates, the market will stabilize, leading carriers to potentially write more business, which hopefully arrest premium pricing pressure. Additionally inflation including building material costs are dropping or at least the rate of increase is slowing. You can reduce your premium by increasing your wind and hail deductible, but you may be self insuring for hail risk.
Brilliant_Head7845@reddit
1800 —> 3300 nearly doubled
Exquisite_D@reddit
It's time to shop around for a new policy.
Millhouse201@reddit
Cause idiots in Texas and yes this is a Texas only problem think that they need to get a new roof every year and make claims for every single issue… blame the Texas culture of freeloading off of insurance claims as often as humanly possible
Middle_klass@reddit
All deductibles in Texas are going from 1% to 2%. Some people are even doing 3% for a reduced payment even though there’s no real savings there considering the average roof life span is 7 years here.
Lots of contributing factors here but they all boil down to greed from the homeowner, roofing contractor, and insurance provider.
jutah2@reddit
Call and dispute? lol
Max_Powers1331@reddit
youre not alone. everything is increasing, ours went from about $3600 to about $5k
MadScallop@reddit
It’s absolutely insane.
To ground myself I remind myself of what prices on homes, supplies, and labor were in 2019.
Everything about this inflation sucks. It feels like everything but our wages has skyrocketed.
I have been saving to buy a home but it’s basically a lost cause now, I look for somewhere cheaper but DFW is relatively still one of the most affordable major markets.
politirob@reddit
It's not inflation dummy it's just greed...they're raising your prices because they want to
Thundermedic@reddit
Because people still pay it….well enough of them do versus the ones that cancel….its very simple actually.
Ok-Party-3033@reddit
Same here
Icy_Huckleberry_8049@reddit
Yes, ALL insurance companies have increased their rates. WHY??
Homes cost more now (new or used), furnishings cost more, materials for rebuilding cost more, labor cost more, more claims.
In the hailstorm that we just had there were over 25k homes that filed insurance claims for hail damage.
jjmoreta@reddit
Literally happening to everyone. Do a search before you post. Multiple companies. Multiple states. Insurance companies have been losing money and states don't protect people against huge rises in rates. Also thank all the people who use a few dings from a hail storm to replace their 20 year old roof for just the deductible (FYI companies are also changing their policies so in future you won't be able to do this, but the damage has been done).
You can call your insurance company if you like but it's related to increased losses and increased construction prices state-wide. The phone agent will just read you a script and waste your time but there's nothing they can materially do. Your auto will likely be going up too. Happened to me last year with USAA.
Call around and get as many quotes as you can. Get an independent broker to call the smaller companies and call anyone they don't call (like State Farm and Allstate) yourself.
Increasing your deductibles doesn't always save a ton, but it's worth a check. Make sure they're applying all the discounts you qualify for and maybe see if there are any discounts you can do a little work to get.
And at the same time, make sure you review your policy limits. A couple of years ago I found out my ex had the house way underinsured (based on old values and never updated). It did raise the price a little but it's more important I can replace the house if there's a fire or tornado. And liability umbrella policies are often not that much but valuable to add on if someone is injured on your property. Independent brokers are great for recommending policy limits you should have.
You're just a number to insurance companies. There's no huge benefit for being with them 5, 10, 20 years anymore. They've made their money off of you already. Their longevity discount is worthless if you're being overcharged compared to another company anyways. People think they're saving SO much money because they see 25% off on their annual renewal when another company just as good would charge them less even after that discount.
Also THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU MAKE CLAIMS. Just as companies are increasing rates, they're also more dropping (non-renewing) customers who make even small claims and declining to take customers (or charging more) who have made claims in the past. If the wind takes out your fence, it might be worth it in the long run to just pay for it if the company would not pay out much over the deductible. If you have auto insurance, actually using that roadside hazard insurance twice in a year could get your policy cancelled too (counts as a claim). If your company still has good rates, you want to keep them these days. Maybe not as important here but in states like Florida and California, major companies are actually pulling out or stopping writing new policies and if you lose your insurance you may end up paying through the nose to find someone to take you.
permalink_save@reddit
Good lord so if we finance we are required to pay for insurance, but if something breaks they can just drop us (which going somewhere else resets the deductible?). Either way insurance shouldn't be allowed to drop you. So useless to take our money every month and advoid actually providing a service.
rocksolidaudio@reddit
If only we had a government that could protect our best interests from situations like this.
pqcracker@reddit
In Texas?? Surely you jest. Just be sure to thank Greg and Ken and all of their law-abiding friends. They will keep you safe from harm. Just ask them if you have any doubts.
IHateHangovers@reddit
If something breaks that isn’t multiple times your premiums, it probably isn’t worth filing a claim. Ie if your premiums are $5k, it’s probably not worth filing for something under $15k, because what you save on the claim you’ll pay for in increased premiums going forward.
permalink_save@reddit
That's a broken system. Why am I payi g monthly if I can't use it? They get my money if I file a claim and saveoney if I don't.
IHateHangovers@reddit
Then go ahead and make small claims and complain afterwards that you’re uninsurable
nihouma@reddit
My company has almost completely pulled out of Texas. Right now we only really write in the El Paso area in Texas with no plans to write more elsewhere in the state again in the future. DFW was the first market we pulled out of in Texas as well
One_Salamander_9701@reddit
Yeah our rates with Nationwide skyrocketed. Shop around. We got more coverage and saved money switching to AAA.
Late_Hunt4697@reddit
Yes, Allstate did this to us from 2023 to 2024. We fired them and went with USAA, my wife's grandfather was a rear admiral and her dad a commander at the US Navy. Lucky for us!
Bosfordjd@reddit
Get ready. TX is going to start seeing similar to what FL is seeing. Hail and roofing claims are taking their toll there. I saw an 81% increase near Jacksonville FL with my last renewal, but most of my co-workers are in Dallas and they're seeing similar to what you are and shopping when they get to renewal time.
Metal_Matt@reddit
Yup, I work in P&C sales and TX is shaping up to be the next FL/CA situation. I'm still renting but I've already realized I likely won't be able to stay in TX when I start looking for a house. Hail/weather losses, fraud, and excessive claims seem to have been the main causes of the increases here in TX, with a huge emphasis on the hail/weather losses. Some homes have literally needed two roofs in a single hail season.
Bosfordjd@reddit
Yup. TX is seeing more legitimate losses with hail, it's just happening more and with increased severity and impacts do to development; there's just WAY more houses/buildings than their used to be.
FL it's a lot of roofing claims that are normal wear and tear on shitty roof work builders do getting claimed as wind damage; it's still cheaper to pay out the claim than litigate for the insurer; and when policyholders can hand that litigation over to a roofing company, well that's the result. Though they did change that last part recently, but the damage is done.
I'm not sure what the legal env is like there in TX, but 70%+ of lawsuits against P&C insurers nationwide occur in FL. So as long as that stays under control in TX it won't be AS bad as FL.
PM_me_snowy_pics@reddit
I just asked someone else this but are people getting class 1 & 2 singles put on instead of the more resilient class 3 & 4? Insurance companies should start mandating class 3 and 4 shingles in hail prone areas so damage will be more limited. Of course they will have to pay some more money to help cover the cost but it'll be worth it in the long run. I recommend people who have the means to get class 3 & 4 shingles to do so. Also research the bloody manufacturers! Not all shingles are made equally. The big manufacturers are cutting corners on their products so definitely do your due diligence people and do the research. Don't always trust the roofer, seriously. Also research the roofers as well!!
Bosfordjd@reddit
Yup, and builders are often using the cheapest shingles they can, and not sub contracting to strictly highly qualified roofing professionals.
PM_me_snowy_pics@reddit
Do people not use the tougher class 3 or class 4 shingles? They hold up a lot better and typically last longer. I've wondered what class shingles other people are buying who are replacing their roofs way more often.
rocksolidaudio@reddit
I dont understand— hail is not a new phenomenon in North Texas. The fact that insurance companies are just now squeezing everyone while hail has always been around tells me that it’s just more greedflation that every other corporation is trying their hand at.
Bosfordjd@reddit
You missed the frequency and severity and it's movement south. Frequency roughly tripled in the last 40yrs, and the last few years keep breaking records on hail claims.
And yeah you get impacted by the roofing greedflation on top of maintaining ins profits.
jasoncongo@reddit
Do you have a source showing frequency for 40 years?
Most I could find was 2011, but seems like a decline overall since then. https://www.iii.org/table-archive/22795
rocksolidaudio@reddit
So much excuse-making for the insurance industry. Their only utility to a consumer is to cover incidents when they happen. They don’t exist to just indefinitely take premiums and never have to pay out. So yeah, this whole “if you make two claims, they’ll drop you” thing is bogus. If you pay a lawyer to stay on retainer, you expect him to work more than twice if you need it.
ScarHand69@reddit
Still kind of a reach for now. A huge contributing factor in Florida is legislation there that was recently passed that made it extremely difficult for insurance companies to deny claims. Opened the door for a lot of fraud. The legal framework in Florida also heavily advantages the homeowner vs insurer. Something like 75% of insurer litigation in the U.S. is in Florida. Insurance companies basically said F it and are leaving the state in droves.
Bosfordjd@reddit
Yup said most of the same in a response above. I don't think you'll see insurers leaving TX like FL, FL has other risk factors that play a big role and have been in coastal and flood areas for awhile. Now it's just rates can't keep up with claims payouts even in the middle of the state. TX is just gonna see rates going up and up like FL, but a little less extreme.
Significant-Visit184@reddit
Thanks to all of the people getting their roofs replaced when they really didn’t need it. Now y’all will pay for it.
PM_me_snowy_pics@reddit
We just got a new roof after like 20 years on our old one. Poor shingles were definitely beat tf up. We had significant damage but only because of all the hail storms plus the gargantuan hail storm late last year iirc. They were also class 3 shingles I believe. We have a line order in our policy for upgrades, so this time we got class 4, I believe. I am thinking roofing companies are pushing the cheaper roofs so they can continue to have lots of business. I think the insurance companies should be only allowing class 3 & 4 shingles for the most part. It will cost more upfront, but help in the long run, not to mention save money. It's bonkers that roofers are even allowed to put lesser quality roofs on houses here and still be paid by insurance companies.
Also find yourself a reputable roofer, folks. Dude bros are lying if they recommend anything less than a class 3 or 4. And for the love of God, if you have the means, buy upgrades shingles!!!! And research the shingle manufacturers, do your due diligence. The big name manufacturers are cutting corners on their shingles, so make sure you know what you're getting. RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH the roofers and the manufacturers, folks.
Cansum1helpme@reddit
And all the contractors and their sales force convincing/scaring people they need a new roof.
Significant-Visit184@reddit
Yup. Can’t believe how many people fell for the scam, got a new roof and are now bitching about mUH iNSUranCE RATes
worfres_arec_bawrin@reddit
The insurance company adjusters have to approve the roof lol and they HATE pushy dip shit roof salesmen.
Significant-Visit184@reddit
They hate them but they still mostly end up approving
BlondieeAggiee@reddit
I’m following my dad’s lead on this one. “Is the roof leaking? Then it’s fine.”
azwethinkweizm@reddit
Hey I needed mine! I had a waterfall in my garage!
OnceMostFavored@reddit
Insurance is usury, and usury is a *sin.*
Mongolitoid@reddit
As a foreigner, this system really makes me sick and sad... but why don't we see more people protesting? Is everyone lobotomized?
Sturdily5092@reddit
They are using every excuse in the book to increase prices every year at ridicuous amounts and a loggying army buying up politicians to rubber-stamp their increase requests.
The numbers don't justify the increases of the last 20yrs, they make it sound like they are paying out more than they are taking it but that is not even close to the truth at all.
For every claim they pay out, they screw over thousands out of thousands in payments. The rate is something like 5-8% of all insured file a claim (in general)... that means that they are taking the money of about 92% who will not file a claim in a given year.
Of those claims 10-15% are denied... expecially the more expensive ones.
leifashley27@reddit
Your premiums are going up because your dollar has lost its purchasing power and most incomes have stayed flat. Couple that with everyone filling a roof claim at the smallest hail storm and here we are.
Gopher64@reddit
Our agent called us and said he could save us some money by switching companies. He saved us $2500 on the house and $1500 on the cars. I imagine we will go shopping again next year.
FlopJohnson1@reddit
What company?
GUIACpositive@reddit
Get an independent insurance broker if you don't have one already. Worth their weight in premiums
katie4@reddit
I used one and they told me that none of their 30 companies would insure anyone with a 10+ year old roof. My 20-year roof is 11 years old, inspected this month by an Allstate-network roofer and said was totally fine and a good quality roof, so fucking sorry for partaking in the passage of time I guess??
haventReddthat@reddit
We've been getting coverage on an almost 30 year old roof for over a decade. I just told them I didn't know the exact age and they sent out an inspector who put in the file that he thought it was 8 to 10 years old! Clearly he didn't even get out of his car when he drove by. We've since replaced it, but just give them as little info as possible and let them come to their own conclusion on it.
scsibusfault@reddit
This is the way. Any time anyone asks roof age, it's "8-9 I think".
UnderQualifiedPylote@reddit
But isn’t that fraud
scsibusfault@reddit
only if I actually know how old the roof is, and I don't. Bought it and they told me the owners didn't know either.
Not like I'm gonna carbon-date my shingles.
katie4@reddit
Good idea, maybe I need to find a new broker and play dumb.
yourprobablywrong@reddit
Just so you know that if you do this and in the future you file a claim for hail damage. The adjuster will be able to find out. You do not want to have a claim denied for material misrepresentation.
sinovesting@reddit
How is it misrepresentation if they were the ones that identified the age of the roof? What if you actually don't know how old the roof is?
yourprobablywrong@reddit
I was responding to the comment playing dumb with the Insurance company.
It is the responsibility of the home owner to show proof of the age of the roof. It can be a condition in the coverage that proof is provided within a certain time period at bind.
AlarmedSnek@reddit
The potential fraud*, you were responding to the potential fraud.
katie4@reddit
I have a hard time feeling bad about it if they send out an inspector who hands-on determines its current quality and likelihood to stay functional regardless of variables, compared to answering a vague Q&A numerically via email.
Like buying a home that is 12 years old sight unseen, compared to buying an unknown-age home with a thorough home inspection report.
AlarmedSnek@reddit
Most people don’t feel bad about fraud; doesn’t make it legal though. You get caught in insurance fraud, you might not go to jail but good luck getting someone to insure you after that.
katie4@reddit
This is already exactly what’s happening without me doing anything, except just minding my business living in a house with a good roof.
ComprehensiveCake173@reddit
l went through this in the spring. Our new policy will cover roofs older than 10 years, but there's something like a 10% depreciation in coverage for every year over 10. Or something like that. My broker said that has become standard now. Thankfully ours is only 2 years old.
Most-Weird@reddit
I have a feeling my insurance co is going to tell me I need to replace the roof before they can renew, and give me like less than 10 days to get it done
BecauseBatman01@reddit
I tried this last month and he couldn’t find anyone cheaper. He said everyone is expensive now
GREG_FABBOTT@reddit
This is the reality. Most people who claim they are getting steep discounts are either 1) outright lying about it, or 2) actually are getting the discounts, but it's because they changed coverage and are not disclosing that little tidbit.
I looked into changing home/auto insurance with a broker, while keeping the same coverage, and the savings were negligible.
All insurance companies are getting hit hard by claim payouts and inflation. All of them are expensive.
ruffsnap@reddit
THIS. They never tell the full truth, and never, like you said, keep the same level of coverage. They get a cheaper plan cause it’s a worse plan.
ComprehensiveCake173@reddit
This spring we went to a broker and shopped around and saved a TON compared to what Liberty Mutual wanted to charge us, which was insane. We had to increase our w/h deductible to 2% from 1%, but we'll sock away the substantial savings every month for 10 months and that will equal the higher deductible. Everything over that is gravy, until renewal time! But really, we were overpaying for a few years so I'm thrilled with what our broker was able to do for us.
ComprehensiveCake173@reddit
And let me add that in some cases our coverage is actually better now than it was before, so it can be done. At least nothing is worse, except the w/h deductible.
Applejacks_pewpew@reddit
Same. I looked across a bunch of companies for changing my auto insurance but keeping my same coverage levels, and in most cases it would increase our premiums, but in the rare event that premiums decreased, it was negligible and not worth the effort.
yourprobablywrong@reddit
It could also be that the insurance company that they went to gave them a 5% deductible on wind/hail.
RaptorF22@reddit
Where do you find them?
TCBloo@reddit
My company pays for a service.
GUIACpositive@reddit
Google?
Gopher64@reddit
Home went from Safeco to American Premium and auto from Safeco to Progressive.
ParticularClean9568@reddit
Hopefully they answer. I always hear about the nebulous “get a broker” and have yet to find one or get a reply from one of these threads
GUIACpositive@reddit
I've had great luck with rollo insurance group. Mine is out of Mansfield.
mine_username@reddit
Just reached out. Thanks.
Most-Weird@reddit
The other day someone recommended Neal & Neal. I can’t vouch for them but I saved the link. https://nealins.com
MagicWishMonkey@reddit
It was me, I've been using them for years and have no complaints.
UKnowWhoToo@reddit
They’re not always the best price as they don’t shop all providers or at least I’ve yet to find a broker that does.
Jumpy_Mango6591@reddit
Following
Trespeon@reddit
Yup. We bundled our cars and pay $100/month each($2400 per year) for full coverage on both cars.
Our old insurance tried to raise our rates to $220/month each. Absolutely insane, especially since we’ve been with them for so many years.
LadySandry@reddit
Good grief, $100? who are you with and how old are your cars? State farm increased mine to $230/month for a 2016 civic -_-
onlinealias350@reddit
State Farm more or less refused to give me full coverage on a 14 year old car. Tried to force me to install a tracking device. And then raised my premium to $147/mo for liability only.
They said if I wanted lower rates & full coverage to buy a new car. My car has 33,000 miles on it, chronologically it’s 14 years old, but milage wise it’s almost new.
Seeing as I have a perfect driving record & I drive less than 2,500 miles per year, you would think I would be a good risk?
mweyenberg89@reddit
It blows my mind that people still have State Farm. They have never been the best price, well known for their refusal to work with anyone when it comes to claims. Terrible company all around.
Trespeon@reddit
State Farm is who we had prior that tried to raise us. We switched to progressive and are very happy with our current rates.
LadySandry@reddit
Have you had to file a claim yet? wondering how their process compares
Trespeon@reddit
I filed a claim from tornado via renters insurance with State Farm and they were great. Just sent me money. No issues other than insane rates.
No claims with progressive but It’s kind of the point to never have to so here’s hoping it stays that way.
Significant-Visit184@reddit
Mind DMing me that agents name?
Gopher64@reddit
He's in Denison.
scsibusfault@reddit
Goosehead is a decent broker. Hand them your info and they'll spit back out reasonable quotes.
Might not be a company you want or like, but it'll be cheaper than what you've got.
neatgeek83@reddit
I bet your deductible went up too
Gopher64@reddit
Believe it or not, they got the exact same coverage on both with no changes in deductible. I was shocked at that too.
HistoricalFun1230@reddit
Can you DM me his contact info please?
MagicWishMonkey@reddit
I'm not the OP but I use Neal and Neal and they are great
Priest_Andretti@reddit
I have been doing this for the past two years. After year one, they increase it dramatically. I have been hopping every year to avoid it.
ACRoo56@reddit
A good broker will shop your policy every year. I know mine does. This is the first year where there’s a chance we have to change insurers due to a rate hike.
UnderQualifiedPylote@reddit
You can dispute but it’s not going down, my increase was 50% AFTER I shopped around
aPowderBlue@reddit
Agent here, your credit and number of claims are the most important factors in your insurance rates.
Most insurance companies will typically only check your credit during your initial quoting phase, which permanently stamps your policy with a specific rating score.
If your credit improves over time, you should get quotes with another company because again they will be basing their rates on your better credit, which will place you in a better rating score.
I am an exclusive agent for Allstate, and over the past decade I've created a small network with an agent from State Farm and an agent from Texas Farm Bureau. After a client has been with any one of us for 3 years, we request quotes from each other, and if the rates comes out significantly lower (which it almost always does), we work together in making it as effortless as possible for the client to switch and enjoy the lower rate and usually with improved coverages. Allstate and State Farm do invest the most money into their claims department compared to any other company, as a result you will get the best claim experience from these 2 top companies. Of course, you can't make everyone happy, most claims open tend to be opened because Door-to-Door Roofers sell them a dream that never really existed by convincing them that they need new roofs when they honestly don't.
Yes, exclusive agents will always offer you better prices as they know their company's rules & rates better than independent agents, but ultimately, the most important thing is that you do NOT stick with the same company for longer than the special 3 yr mark. Just check around with top companies, always bundle, and be ready to pull the trigger and commit to the move.
Ask as many questions as you can to fully understand the whole process (if you don't already) and know exactly what the agents are needing from you and what you can expect from them.
Most of my clients homeowners rates are coming out around $2200 for homes that are over 20 years old, and I recently bound a $1200 policy for a new construction home, which is quite rare these days, but not rare for a new home. Always with 1% Deductibles.
I would rather pass a client to one of the other agents than increase their Homeowners deductible to 2% (at their own request). It's in the clients best interest. People don't forget, so I never really lose them as clients as they almost always come back.
hastinapur@reddit
Started with $1800 about 5 yrs ago, last yr renewed at 4300. Coming up for renewal in Aug. I get that we are in high risk zone but this is getting out of hand
CaptainZhon@reddit
Property taxes go up, more people filling insurance claims, insurance has to profit= your insurance is going up.
IamEV-@reddit
Now wait until you go to renew your electricity.
Pew_Jackman@reddit
I just got a renewal notice. It doubled.
Expertonnothin@reddit
Yes, you have to switch your policy every 3 years. It’s a game they play. Most people are too lazy so they just keep paying more. It’s even worse when you are escrowed because you often don’t notice.
Colin_Edge@reddit
Climate change has a lot to do with it. Home insurance as an industry has been unprofitable in the state of Texas for the past couple of years. It’s an unsustainable business at previous rates.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/13/climate/home-insurance-profit-us-states-weather.html
rabiesandcorn@reddit
So where do we move?
FluffyKnuckles@reddit
My rent went up $50 this year 🥲
James324285241990@reddit
Yep. A, extreme weather is becoming more common. B, materials are way more expensive. C, housing prices are through the roof.
Add all that together and you get wicked expensive insurance. I would recommend working with an insurance broker. They shop around for you so you don't have to put in an online inquiry and get 56431584525 phone calls and emails for the rest of your life "WE SAW YOU WANTED TO SWITCH INSURANCE LETS TALK I CAN HELP YOU LETS DO INSURANCE NOW"
rabiesandcorn@reddit
How does one go about finding a good insurance agent? I'd like to find one but not sure where to start...
James324285241990@reddit
Royalty is pretty good
saintstephen66@reddit
What drives up prices most are roofing cos that solicit door to door business and file claims on behalf of homeowners. No loss for them
Stevenab87@reddit
Oh I understand this frustration. I own an independent brokerage in Plano. We are seeing this with lots of customers! A lot more weather related claims and higher labor/materials costs are gonna raise premiums. It’s one of the toughest insurance markets in history right now. Not just in Texas! Best bet is to find a broker who can review your coverage and shop around for you. Good luck!
Grassburr1922@reddit
Some stuff happened in my neighborhood after we had a little bit of pea sized hail with roofing companies I had never heard of coming around. I know that’s not unusual but it was surprising the number of almost new roofs getting replaced. My brother had golf ball sized hail in his neighborhood and he didn’t see that happen. The houses in ours are more expensive so it kinda makes you wonder.
Juicebo-x@reddit
I was warned during my homebuying process to stay away from anything that isn't a new build if I want reasonable insurance rates. Older homes are ramping up liability, blah, etc
Problem is, do I want high mortgage or high insurance? Can't do both ATM.
ilikedessert@reddit
Everyone I know who has purchased a new build had issues within the first few years of owning. New means nothing when the work is shit.
West_Bid_1191@reddit
🤣 truth 💯
_captainbrunch@reddit
For those who are not in the industry, look up nuclear verdicts and cost of reinsurance.
2manyfelines@reddit
Good luck with your protest. The State Board of Insurance is appointed by Abbott, who gets several million on campaign funds from insurers every year.
Texas is rapidly approaching the point where homes become as uninsurable as homes in Florida.
Old_Breakfast_1379@reddit
Leave geico. Shop for a new policy. They grossly increased our car insurance after years of loyalty and even increased on us a 2nd time due to change of address. And yes insurance is a big sad scam 😩
PinCushionPete314@reddit
It is happening In many states across the country. Insurers are losing money on the policies state wide. This is a repercussion of the up tick in server weather events. With the deep freeze Texas got a few years ago it’s not surprising.
CrimsonAllah@reddit
Time to shop for a new one, OP.
IWantSealsPlz@reddit
I’ve worked in insurance over 10 years and the market has grown shittier by the year.
Majority of the reason why we’ve been seeing insane rate increases is over the increase of catastrophic losses on a national level and this is attempts to keep the profit margins stable. It’s also the reason we’ve been seeing much stricter underwriting guidelines, carriers pulling out of business and temporary binding restrictions in certain states.
But yeah, it’s a load of shit. I recommend contacting an independent agent who writes with multiple carriers under one roof they can compare rates with.
FixYourOwnComputer@reddit
Yepppp my payment has gone up like 400 bucks. Any higher and I'm selling the house and back with my parents. Living off fucking Ramen n shit again like I'm in college.
MisterMysterion@reddit
Shop around. There are better deals out there.
Ninjabaker972@reddit
Prices went up so high in some states like ca where most major insurers no longer sell there
currently_distracted@reddit
It’s happening everywhere.
bd0153@reddit
Ours did that because we still had a 1% deductible for hail claims. They offered me the original price if I agreed to a 2% hail deductible. The fun part is, 2% of the dwelling value = the cost for my houses new roof! How awesome! I never wanted insurance to pay for hail damage anyways. We decided to bite the bullet and put on a tile roof and we are rolling with a 2%.
mattcalt@reddit
Ours was going to be raised nearly 100% ($3500 to $6500) so we started shopping around.
Many companies said we were uninsurable completely because we had two claims. One was about $25k for a new roof from storm damage. The other "claim" was me calling insurance the prior year after a wind storm when a few shingles blew off.
That second one resulted in a $200 claim that was never exercised since it wouldn't meet my deductible or anything, I just paid out of pocket and didn't involve the insurance at all in the repair.
Apparently even though they paid nothing, that $200 claim made me uninsurable to a lot of folks.
DaddyDontTakeNoMess@reddit
A recent claim should REDUCE your cost as it reduces risk (except for the few cases where people are roof Karens and get it replaced every few years).
mattcalt@reddit
I assumed so as well but in this case since the payment was pro rated based on the age of the roof. The insurance only paid 75% of the replacement cost because of the age. It was hard to get an affordable policy that would cover a 15 year old roof with a standard deductible.
So after replacement the coverage was now at 100% which made my premium much higher.
DaddyDontTakeNoMess@reddit
Thanks for the context.
mattcalt@reddit
Sure thing. It was such a mess of a process. I had to pay something like $7,000 for my deductible plus the additional $6k or so for roof depreciation.
Not exact numbers, but I paid about $13k and the insurance covered $12k of it. If I had to do it over again, I'd just live with the damage.
DaddyDontTakeNoMess@reddit
I replaced mine recently. It cost me 12k and insurance paid 60k. My roof was 13 years old. Almost all of my neighbors had already replaced theirs, but my roof stayed in pretty good condition until this year.
The insurance business is robbery and we are powerless (for now). This needs to be a major election issue. It has to be a national issue, because the state wont do anything to fix it.
planoser@reddit
72k for a roof? 👀
DaddyDontTakeNoMess@reddit
I had the numbers wrong. I updated it. Thanks
It was total 60k and included a pool pavilion.
brobafett1980@reddit
Make sure they actually closed out the $200 claim.
I had an adjuster come look at repaired water pipes that burst after the freeze and they said everything looked good with the self repairs, but they opened a claim, quit the company, and the claim remained open for years and made it look like we never repaired the pipes/walls to other insurance companies.
Had to get a certified letter showing the claim was closed and repairs were completed that I have to submit each time I go to get a new policy.
Flip2fakie@reddit
Hmmm I don't think it was the $200 one personally.
mattcalt@reddit
It was actually both. The reason for denial was "number of claims (2)" not necessarily the dollar amount alone. I was actually told by one, State Farm, that they could insure us if we got the $200 claim removed.
ApprehensiveAnswer5@reddit
Our renewal was in March, and even shopping around, ours was still up significantly.
Sigh. We just bought last year, and our first year mortgage + escrow was $2000/month. I had thought we had more time before getting close to our “oh shit this is uncomfortable” bar of $3k/month. But nope, just one year in and we’re at $2800 now. Yikes.
bighitbiker3@reddit
A 41% increase would have been nice! Our renewal and a few renewal quotes came up at like 120% increase (3200 => 7000). No claims, nothing. I got a few quotes and they were all around that price. Finally found a policy where I jacked up my hail and wind deductible to get a decent rate. Absolutely ridiculous.
planoser@reddit
Same experience, rate doubled to over 7K. Also had to increase deductible to bring within “ reason.”
sunandsand55@reddit
Same boat in Frisco.
DaveAniki@reddit
It’s almost like property values have continued to increase, and the frequency + severity of CAT events have gotten worse as well. Who could’ve guessed. Y’all clearly haven’t the faintest idea how insurance works.
us1549@reddit
I don't think you can dispute an insurance premium increase. You can shop around to find something cheaper or change your coverage but there is no disputing it.
This isn't like property taxes
xmaspackage@reddit
The insurance premium increases are directly tied to the home valuations that everybody saw skyrocket last year. My brother got dropped by State Farm because State Farm didn’t agree with the home valuation of the city of Dallas.
FunComm@reddit
Not really.
It’s a combination of increasing severe weather and higher costs for repairs.
Pabi_tx@reddit
They're also directly tied to increased risks of hail and wind. It's only going to get worse as climate change ramps up.
beaute-brune@reddit
And as your short-sighted neighbors brag about their brand new roofs and fences they didn't really need and how they got one over on insurance. Now we're seeing a lot of legit needs to your point, with 2% deductible policies lol
Pabi_tx@reddit
When the insurance company's adjuster said we needed a new roof, they were lying?
beaute-brune@reddit
? I didn’t say everyone was lying. But there have definitely been some bad actors over the years, which is why they’ve been changing the way roof claims work for like the past decade. It was a known thing/joke in N Texas that if you needed a new roof, just wait for the next hail storm.
Pabi_tx@reddit
There's definitely bad actors out there. I always question "don't worry we'll find enough collateral damage that you'll cover your roof deductible." But then again it's the insurance company's guy doing it. Seems like they'd make more money by collecting premiums and not paying for new roofs.
Ok_Soup_8029@reddit
Big round of storms this year caused damage to homes, mostly roof replacements.
You as a policyholder are now paying the collective cost for the area
onlinealias350@reddit
State Farm raised my mom’s policy to $5,500 from $2,950. I think she switch to Allstate?
rgg40@reddit
I had car insurance (they wouldn’t insure my house) with GEICO for 30 years and they tried the same thing. I had never filed a claim and called them on it. They congratulated me on my “outstanding driving record” but refused to budge — “We pay a lot of claims in Texas”. I went to Progressive who was half the price.
weasler7@reddit
About the same for us. Shopped around everywhere to almost every carrier. It is the same.
MarcoEsteban@reddit
Yep, mine some how jumped from $3100 to $7000 in one or two years. I couldn't figure out what was going on and why my escrow kept coming up short. I hadn't read my last insurance renewal because I didn't think THAT would happen.
I got a new quote with my old agency at Farmers, and got pretty much the same coverage at $3200 again.
chextel@reddit
Mine went from 2300 to 4200. No claims of ever. I am paying for other people’s claim
woodstock9999@reddit
Ours increased 34% along with auto & umbrella No claims. Our agent shopped but not much better and we'd have to change deductible to 2% from 1%.
Ill-Rutabaga5125@reddit
Mine went from $1200 to $1600
dieselgeek@reddit
Good luck , mine went from $1,300 to $4,500 in the last 6 years.
dankgpt@reddit
Every type of insurance increased this year. Good luck negotiating.
RowdySpirit@reddit
Our house value increased so much in the quote it was ridiculous. Went with someone else and our house value was back in line with what it actually is.
ClassicMeet2907@reddit
https://www.tdi.texas.gov/blog/auto-and-home-insurance-rate-changes.html
It’s statewide. Across the board no matter what insurance you’re with
FollowingNo4648@reddit
Yep. They dropped mine after I called only because I got a brand new roof that I had to lay for out of pocket. Insurance Company refused to pay after two inspections that I finally just gave up.
pussmykissy@reddit
It cost 14k to replace a 9 year roof that was supposed to last 20 years.
Our deductible was 7k. May as well just have paid for the whole thing without having to file a claim.
I’m 41 and have never made a claim before. Insurance is a huge ripoff.
azwethinkweizm@reddit
My insurance paid out $25k for my new roof after 5 years. The garage had a weak point where it would come down my walls after a rain. First adjuster gave me a zero claim. Second adjuster approved a new roof
stonemik@reddit
In the exact same boat
azwethinkweizm@reddit
I wish mine was only 41% lol. A zero claim from an adjuster fucked me from switching.
InternalOpinion5410@reddit
I switched to Texas Farm Bureau and it kept me at current rate prior to huge increase allstate wanted
JupiterWalk@reddit
You need to switch companies. Same situation happened to me with my car. I almost reduced my yearly premium by half. It’s tedious for sure, but worth it.
perpetual__ghost@reddit
We had Geico last year and ours went from $3600 to just under $9,000 this year.
We live in a historic home so insurance has always been on the higher side for our home/neighborhood (full of 100+ year old houses) but this year was insane. I had to call several brokers and companies and found that lots of the larger insurance carriers would not even write a policy for our home at all — and this is with no claims in over a decade. The same thing is happening in Florida right now, and at this rate people will be priced out of their homes before long. It’s wild.
danzango@reddit
Makes me feel better we pre-paid ~2600 when we bought our house in January. Bracing myself for the rate increase next year - wondering if they’re gonna find some other way to screw me over
GarlicEmbarrassed559@reddit
You can’t dispute the insurance cost. It is what it is. You can though shop around for a better rate.
50bucksback@reddit
Pretty much everyone. Search insurance on this sub.
Search around, call independent brokers. If they are all higher consider raising your deductible.
penguinKangaroo@reddit
Call in and increase your deductible. It’s because of new roofs. As long as your roof is in good shape, you rarely if ever file claims, and you don’t need to replace for 5-10+ years, you are better off with like a 5-10k deductible and saving that insurance money difference instead
JC2535@reddit
Houses are at record high prices. Which means that the costs of insuring homes against catastrophic losses has increased as well. The same is true for Auto Insurance. Cars and Trucks are insanely expensive. So it follows that the cost of insurance must go up to cover comprehensive claims for damage and loss.
The next time you’re in heavy city traffic, just remember that every nice car and truck you see is required by law to have insurance coverage. That’s a huge amount of underwriting.
brobafett1980@reddit
Also remember the other portion of drivers that don't have the required insurance so make sure you have comprehensive and under/uninsured coverage!
whiskeymusic5@reddit
Lots of truths in this thread. I’m an insurance broker and it’s wild out there right now. As many have said, Texas is starting to look more like Florida and California on the insurance front.
Best claims advice is to be as close to 100% sure that your claim is covered and there is enough evidence to warrant a payout. Zero claims (claims filed with zero payout) are hurting a lot of folks right now.
Most carriers simply aren’t taking new business in TX right now, but you can still find good coverage. It certainly costs more than it did even 6 months ago.
wh1036@reddit
Same happened to me with Progressive. That premium increase plus the 1% wind and hail deductible increased to 2%. I called and shopped around and things have gone up across the board, but I did go with another company that was a little lower and then by moving my car insurance to them as well lowered my overall premiums by about $500 a year than they would of if I had stayed.
ACRoo56@reddit
My insurance broker just texted me to make sure my roof was replaced in 2019, as they are shopping my policy due to a huge rate increase on my current policy. Seems like this is happening to everyone, but man, it sucks.
MagicWishMonkey@reddit
You can thank all the "climate change ain't real!!" people for this. The crazy weather we have been having is only going to get worse and the insurance payouts keep getting bigger, the insurance companies have to either raise their rates or quit selling in certain markets.
At least we can still get insurance, so many insurance companies have pulled out of states like CA and FL that apparently it's hard to even find a provider in certain areas.
rpoh73189@reddit
Doubled with worse coverage, going to shop it around
whiFi@reddit
ours went up by 40% also. our insurance broker shops around for us every year and could not find any better deals, so we chose to up our wi d & haul deductible to save a bit.
Exciting-Ad-7870@reddit
That's the dark side of becoming "property rich". An inflated asset costs more to replace. Dallas needs a market correction.
PermaCaffed@reddit
Mine went up 50%, and I decided to shop around. That 50% increase was the cheapest by far. State Farm was giving me quotes for $12,000… my house is 1800 sq ft. It’s insane.
strangecargo@reddit
not saying you shouldn't dispute, but they're a private company and can charge whatever they want. they have no obligation to hear/react to your dispute.
IranianLawyer@reddit (OP)
I know, but I was hoping the 41% increase was just a “let’s send it and see if they complain” thing and maybe they’d slightly come down for people who take the time to call. I was wrong.
SocialMediaAcct@reddit
Auto and Home went up for us significantly this year. About a 55% increase for HomeOwners and 25% increase for Auto. It’s crazy.
Sylfaein@reddit
Mine went up 69% (NOT “nice”). Almost $7k, a year. No claims, but everyone around me has been getting new roofs slapped on by scummy door-to-door roofers. Those slimy little fucks are a big part of the problem.
fuelvolts@reddit
GEICO doesn't (typically) underwrite homeowners insurance in Texas. That increase is likely them passing on the additional premium requested by the underwriters. So your "dispute" likely won't do anything other than trigger a review of the underwriting, which may work, but also could cause your premium to increase. It's not a penalty or anything, it's just a person will review your file other than a computer/algorithm.
But as others have pointed out, your increase is pretty typical. Mine went up 80% on Progressive (Lloyds uynderwriting). I called my broker and switched to SafeCo and was satisfied with "only" a 20% increase from last year.
You see all those roofing signs all over your neighborhood? We're all paying for that whether you needed a new roof or not.
AnthillOmbudsman@reddit
Coming soon: Homes going up for sale as people try to downsize.
kesin@reddit
kinda wild as all the insurance companies stock prices have gone up at least 40 percent in the past 5 years too lol. Profit over everything.
pmyaznoods@reddit
Same story here. Safeco was going to go up 100% so I switched to State Farm which was up about 50%. Still…yikes.
BecauseBatman01@reddit
Yup. Got mine raised by 30%. Checked other companies and they were over 50% more. Sucks but just the market right now
West_Bid_1191@reddit
same here 38%.. Independent Agent just told me to stay where I am.
firefly11_11@reddit
Mine increased like crazy too and I live in Corinth. I got quotes from several different companies and the prices were even higher than what my current insurance company was offering. When I called to ask why the drastic increase, the insurance company claimed because of all the severe weather events we’ve had, they have to increase the prices for coverage (insert the part about climate change not being real, laced with sarcasm). I ended up finding a local broker and got slightly lower pricing, however, it’s still a significant increase from last year.
ParticularClean9568@reddit
My mortgage company sent an email I could get insurance for 1300-1800 a year. i went through the process and quoted 3600. Lmao
wiseguy9317@reddit
This isn't like a credit card bill where you can dispute a charge. It is a combination of the valuation increase that houses across the board in Dallas have seen the last few years and the increase in bad weather which means more claims.
IranianLawyer@reddit (OP)
The letter said to call if I want to dispute, that’s why I mentioned that.
It turned out to be worthless though. They told me the increase is what it is 🤷🏻♂️
Predmid@reddit
I tried to get a new insurance policy last year about this time when my premiums jumped. I was told by a broker that I'm basically in a coverage no-go zone. My current agent basically stated "you are luck you have this grandfathered policy otherwise we would have dropped you".
This is ridiculous.
neatgeek83@reddit
smash that search. gets asked around here about once a week, if not more.
tyfe@reddit
Ours went up 100% lol. $3k to 6.2k.
dalgeek@reddit
Pretty sure that every state with a coastline is seeing insane policy increases this year. Florida lost at least a dozen insurers because they literally can't write policies and make a profit; the ones left have increased their rates over 50%. Between increase in construction costs, increased storm damage from tropical storms and other wild weather, and insurance fraud, homeowners insurance is going bonkers across the country.
farloux@reddit
Change insurance providers every 2-3 years
Glass-Bobcat4357@reddit
Same. What sucks is I had someone shop around and the savings were only a few hundred, not a few thousand : (
dejablue7@reddit
Shop around with competitors. Also, if you're going to replace your roof anytime soon, pay extra for class 4 shingles. They're hail resistant up to a point and many insurance companies give hefty discounts for that.
kon---@reddit
Those ad buys don't come cheap. And you know, they do have to throw $13.5 million annually at the CEO and additional 10s of millions in executive bonuses to keep the giant corporation competitive in a mandated market.
Tuesday2017@reddit
Mine went up 48%😫
PorQueTexas@reddit
Don't call and dispute... Call a competitor or 3.
Doc2142@reddit
Try VINCENT GREENE INSURANCE AGENCY. They were able to lower mine to 2K after I got 3K from progressive last year.
phone: 972-288-8346
MotoChooch@reddit
I used a broker when SF jacked us over a grand. No dice. Every provider is jacking to astronomical highs.