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Are Macedonians less and less present here or is it just me?

Posted by HumanMan00@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 88 comments

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Bretton_woods@reddit

Macedonia....are you talking about that annoying little nation. The only good thing with them are the dentist's. They are very good and not expensive!
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

It seems that having an ancient nation doesnt always translate to having citizens worth its heritage. Shame.
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Bretton_woods@reddit

Look in the mirror, my friend, realization could still be the same.
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

Ive had various disagreements with Bosniaks Albanians Croats and Bulgarians of this sub but I have never referred to them as “annoying little nation” or anything similar to generalize them. Ive always fought individuals. This comment of urs tho.. wow..
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Bretton_woods@reddit

You are right. I apologize.
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

Thanks for being a reasonable guy - much respect and sorry for the harsh words.
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Bretton_woods@reddit

Harsh but true. I went a little too far there.
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Loading_Scream@reddit

As other Macedonians mentioned, we're just fed up. There were a few posts on our sub about how we should avoid this one and its sad to say but most of us agreed. Also the moderator(s) that is supposedly Macedonian doesn't represent us properly. Much love to all the civil comments and the OP for bringing this up.
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PurpleDrax@reddit

We can't express opinion here. When people ask us to be honest and we are, we get downvoted to hell so why bother.
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LaxomanGr@reddit

Not talking about u personally, but if said opinions are that of ''Solun is ours'' what did you expect ?
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

Ive never seen somebody write that here. I have seen Serbs Bulgarians and Macedonians claim they have history related to Solun but not that it is anybody elses than Greek. On the other hand a lot of Greeks get offended at even the slightest mention of Slavic history or heritage in Greece. 🤷🏻
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Pederakis@reddit

Exactly. They straight up deny that there are Macedonians living in Greece
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dtrifunov@reddit

Can you explain this comment to me? You are not talking about them, but they should expect to have their comments downvoted because a different person in your imagination made a different comment instead?
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LaxomanGr@reddit

What i mean is, you (Macedonians) get downvoted because you mostly post controversial and not because you are from North Macedonia. The majority of comments i see from NMK users are controversial as fck. Macedonians who post with common sense don't get downvoted.
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Significant-666@reddit

“Solun is ours” - those are nationalists. And so far haven’t seen many here.
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BRM_the_monkey_man@reddit

No, we're always watching
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sta6gwraia@reddit

We never mention our town origin.
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

Can u explain - i dont get it.
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sta6gwraia@reddit

We know you are from Serbia. Not the region. We know people are greeks but not if they are from Macedonia.
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

Oh u are from Aegean Macedonia and trolling..
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No_Complaint3553@reddit

There is not such thing as "Aegean Macedonia". The region start from pindos mountains at 2600m and almost all region is Mountain area.
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegean_Macedonia
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No_Complaint3553@reddit

It is currently mainly used in the [Republic of North Macedonia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Macedonia), including in the [irredentist](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irredentism) context of a [United Macedonia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Macedonia).[^(\[1\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegean_Macedonia#cite_note-Koliopoulosetal2009-1) Thanks! So your post is pure propaganda for N.Macedonia nationalism!
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sta6gwraia@reddit

Why trolling?
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

U tell me 😁
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GeorgiaPulevska@reddit

Mods on AskBalkans are predominantly pro-Greek and pro-Bulgarian, so most Macedonians have left this sub.
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No_Complaint3553@reddit

lol not really
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Unexpected_Old_Lady@reddit

Oh Macedonias are represented, there are quite a lot of Greeks on the sub. Now if you talk about Slavic people of ex Tito continent then idk and it doesn’t really matter anyway.
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

This aint balkan_irl. Belisarius would be disappointed.
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Unexpected_Old_Lady@reddit

Belisarius would care about the truth. Which part of my comment is not true. Are they slavic or not?
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

U cant handle the truth 
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

Idk. They r a Slavic nation with more Greek added as they go south. They also have latin stuff. U also had Slavs to ur teeth in the middle ages. If u ask me, they r Slavs that mixed with Greeks a lot. They have a complex history that was mismanaged a lot and now they r open to criticizm by a**holes like urself.  They were held by four empires: Byzant, Bulgaria, Serbia and Ottomans which makes them both culturally rich and complex Furhermore, due to the strong h8 for each other that often comes up im guessing u have a complex historu with Slavs of Greece proper in the past.  So a lot of Greeks want to make sure to prove Greece has NOTHING to do with them. So all in all they r stuck between a rock and a hard place.  Ive been u know - to Ohrid. Ur nation has history there and im no talking antiquity. U also have it in Serbia but thats another matter.
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nikolapc@reddit

I am in 2balkan4u
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AideSpartak@reddit

Brother is still in 2020, respect
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sramnavushka@reddit

Respect
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Zekieb@reddit

They get called Bulgarians by half of the sub and only get mentioned when their "beef" with Albanians or other nationalities can be instrumentalized. So it is understandable that some decide to avoid this sub or at least not be that active in it.
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Raceovski@reddit

Thank you for understanding brother 🙏
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MomzuL@reddit

He also do that, what you thank him for ?
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Zekieb@reddit

>He also do that No I do not
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No_Complaint3553@reddit

oh poor north.Monkeydonians
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

Thats the attitude he’s talking about 🤷🏻
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StupidScienceB1tch@reddit

It's just people treating this place like balkans_irl when it's not
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No_Complaint3553@reddit

My attitude is based,if you cant understand, thats yours and his problem. If you can get N.Macedonian shoes but not Greeks shoes,when you are just hypocrite!
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GeorgeChl@reddit

We need a Macedonian appreciation day. Like ignore all our shared "grievances" and embrace our neighbors.
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IdealisticBastard@reddit

We should do once a week here in AskBalkans embrace your neighbor day where we all will be loving to eachother, to clear our sins from balkans_irl, maybe we can make a post about this
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Raceovski@reddit

This: "Embrace our neighbours"! Music to my ears. I mean I get the politicians and their use of nationalism as a bargaining chip but the nations should have problems because of them. I love my summer holiday spent in Greece as much as I love it in Bulgaria, Serbia, and Montenegro...As a kid, we used to spend every summer in Prżno near Kotor. I still have fond memories from that time. Then also Dubrovnik was a surreal experience. Now with my family, we visit almost every summer Greece, and two years ago Albania. When my kid was little we spent 4 years in a row a summer vacation in Albena. Great memories. I have relatives in Belgrade and I love their culture as well. I mean WTF?! There is no reason to hate each other! ✌️ ☮️ 🕊
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Odd-Independent7679@reddit

Kosove feels left out.
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Raceovski@reddit

OK you win!
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BamBumKiofte23@reddit

And I'm sure you're welcome in all of those places, despite what a small minority who drinks the nationalist Kool Aid might have to say. Unfortunately, this neighborhood requires a thick skin.
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nikolapc@reddit

We hate each other on the internet. For sport. Real life is different
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Dim_off@reddit

Good idea. Could be one day every week
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Stverghame@reddit

Yes, they are less present than before In my early days here I remember a lot of them being here (in proportion to their population), but the number of users lowered over time especially after the whole shitshow between them and Bulgarians There were really some decent users, it is unfortunate
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BamBumKiofte23@reddit

Agreed, one of the reasons I got into this sub was that I could have level-headed discussions with Macedonians without drama and bullshit, and I miss some of those users. It's easy to stop bothering if every thread about North Macedonia gets dominated by Greeks and Bulgarians.
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JollySolitude@reddit

Seems like Macedonians just wanted to keep their flag and name after they got independence. Not much of a level headed discussion when Macedonia today conceded to Greeces demands and will still not join the EU in this decade or the next if we're honest. So i cant blame them for saying Fxck everyone when majority of the population hadn't even supported any of the events that took place.
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dtrifunov@reddit

The moderation has turned to shit. So many comments about "North Macedonians" and "North Macedonian" and "Macedonians were invented in 1945 by Yuri from Red Alert 2 to steal our land" that are just ignored. You'd have to be masochistic to post.
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

U really got me with that Yuri reference 😂😂😂 Yeah, toxic stuff goes on in Macedonia related posts 😟
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hitlicks4aliving@reddit

Bulgarian that grew up with grandparents on the border with Macedonia
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

That paints a pretty picture but what does it have to do with the question izedem te?
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No_Complaint3553@reddit

Why,since when Greeks presented separate???
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

We keep telling u that u r Helleno-Slavonic, u keep demanding geographic desegnations in country names 😘
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No_Complaint3553@reddit

When you said "Hellono-Slavonic" you mean the Servs refuges when we welcomed you in the 90's??? You know Yugo civil war and NATO bombing or you dont know your country history??? Sorry,what you write doesn't make sense.....try harder and if you want respect then show respect first!
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Dude_from_Europe@reddit

You got me curious, how many Serbian refugees did Greece take and what happened to them? Do you have any reputable sources?
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Strange_Adeptness_50@reddit

We exist but cbf with balkan drama. Wish we can be friends
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AnalysisQuiet8807@reddit

All the macos i met have been mixed bag. The ones i met which grew up in macedonia were pretty cool, but the ones i met which grew up in “west” were delusional freaks
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its_mario@reddit

Most seem to still have their mindset stuck in the 70s and stick to their insular communities, they raise their children the same way and the cycle continues.
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

It’s difficult to understand the Balkans if u dont live here. All western raised balkaners have a bit of that.
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AnalysisQuiet8807@reddit

I mean its not just macos its other ones as well, all big “ustaše i četnici” and all of their grandparents had to run away from “komunist” prosecutions, but they can’t even speak the language and their parents lived in “vukojebina” and only migrated because of that
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VARCrime@reddit

Are Albanians are more and more present here or is it just me who is hallucinating?
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AnalysisQuiet8807@reddit

We waz Illyrianz and sheeeeit
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VARCrime@reddit

Damn it, time to imitate eagle again in order to camouflage 😢😢😢 🦅🦅🦅
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its_mario@reddit

We exist, everyone else disagrees. What's the point I guess
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kostac600@reddit

maybe they too cool for school
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svemirskihod@reddit

I’ve spoken to maybe 2-3 Macedonians in my entire life so you’re probably on to something.
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HumanMan00@reddit (OP)

I live in South Serbia and ive spoken to many. 😁
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Mucklord1453@reddit

I assume you are referring to people from North Macedonia. There are not that many of them to begin with, and half of them identify as Albanian and probably a good percentage of the rest as Bulgarian. The rest have emigrated to west. Europe.
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Manikchris@reddit

There are like 5 of them globally.
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Reformandfinish@reddit

I am half Macedonian, I count as .5 of that 5.
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AlwaysUltra1337@reddit

whu y hate us when we singlehandedly fund ur whole country through tourism
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MineralWaterEnjoyer@reddit

Nationalism works in mysterious ways
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Few_Chemical_84@reddit

And they are busy watching the European cup probably
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Fit-Cattle1159@reddit

I litterly only see controvesial posts about them here. Even we are less controverial, and saying A LOT.
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d2mensions@reddit

Idk, but I post about Macedonians sometimes 🫤
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AmountEuphoric5182@reddit

I like macedonians, greetings from Montenegro👍
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WorldClassChef@reddit

This is even less common ☝️
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Few_Chemical_84@reddit

Me too, greetings from Bulgaria!
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Kaloyanicus@reddit

Обичаме всички!!!
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TaloKrafar@reddit

When we comment its either - you're North Macedonian, you're not Macedonian, you're Bulgarian, you don't exist and so on and so forth. I've lurked ever since that shitty Greek article got posted up about three weeks ago about how the government removed North from the website and Greeks lost their minds but if you went to the actual website (which the article purposefully left out) you saw that it was a shitty article based on a shitty lie. Used to be a fun place here
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Few_Chemical_84@reddit

I think many people mix up r/AskBalkans with r/balkans_irl I wish that all of our neighbours prosper and that provications stop especially between mkd and bg, :3
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