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China's Xi accused the US of trying to trick him into invading Taiwan, but said he won't take the bait, report says

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nicobackfromthedead4@reddit

>One expert told BI it's a sign that China is "genuinely surprised" by the attitude of US officials. This is quite literally how almost all geopolitical and defense experts see a China-US war starting. Neither side can read the other. It happens quite often, actually. It doesn't mean China isn't being imperialist and belligerent, seeking to assert a regional dominance, because clearly they are. But that's where the bilateral understanding seems to stop. Stumbling into war is a real possibility.
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Effective_Raise_889@reddit

"It doesn't mean China isn't being imperialist and belligerent, seeking to assert a regional dominance, because clearly they are" As the US surrounds china with military bases and weapons...
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CaptainOktoberfest@reddit

Because China says they will wipe out one of our key allies.
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Effective_Raise_889@reddit

WE are the ones threatening everyone.
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MedicalService8811@reddit

They are also threatening everyone. Ever heard of the 5 dash line or how they constantly promise to 'reunify' with taiwan by force if necessary?
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Effective_Raise_889@reddit

How is that Americas business though? America is forever fighting other countries under the guise of democarcy and freedom. The moment the us gets a chips factory ONCONUS then Taiwan can kick rocks
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MedicalService8811@reddit

One could have asked the same question in 1939. Its not our business until it is and allowing warmongers to fulfill their revanchist ambitions and become powerful enough to threaten us isnt a good thing. And for once we'd actually be defending freedom and democracy. If Taiwan wanted to join China they could vote to do so
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Effective_Raise_889@reddit

Here we go, Godwins law was met in only 2 responses... Are you even in the military?
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zatoh@reddit

If I remember correctly Saddam thought he could invade Kuwait because he thought the US was indifferent due to the way statements by the US embassy/Ambassador were worded.
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MedicalService8811@reddit

If you read the transcript it was a pretty intentional ambiguity intended to make him go for it
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PsychologicalTalk156@reddit

He'll invade the Philippines instead and be like " in your face US of A.
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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

Granted I am poorly paraphrasing. There's a notion I've heard repeated a few times that it is elements within the US government, and the west in general, with strong ties to the military industrial complex that want world war. They are the ones that want intervention in the middle east, who want war with Russia and who want war with China. Regarding the defense of Taiwan, the US is quick to assert the answer that they would defend Taiwan. Even when that isn't a question that anyone has actually asked them. There are elements and individuals within the western government who are eager, even desperate for war, regardless of the front because they are in position to benifit from it.
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Secret_Squire1@reddit

What in the tinfoil hat are you talking about? There’s a notion you’ve heard repeated…. By who? The US was quick to assert it would defend Taiwan because we have a mutual defense pact bound by treaty which states we must. Specifically these statements have been made as China continues to build its military forces nearby and stage mock blockades and military exercises next to the islands. Are there warhawks within the US government? absolutely. However, No one has called for war with China or Russia within the US government. Our public officials don’t openly threaten to nuke Russia at any point unlike Russia does to other countries. Furthermore, we have seen members of the government like Dick Cheney who clearly profited from the Iraq war. The US has destabilized third world countries for the benefit of American business. However, the level of destabilization currently taking place in the world doesn’t help any American. Ultimately our hegemony and power is reseeding and it’s clear that there is multiple attempts to weaken American dominance in the geopolitical spheres. This benefits no one in the US.
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butt_huffer42069@reddit

Receding* Reseeding is what you do when you kill your lawn.
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Secret_Squire1@reddit

Good catch
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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

You don't think those heavily invested in Raytheon, boeing, Lockheed Martin, Leidos, Northrop Grumman, etc are positioned to profit from war? The war doesn't have to involve the US, it doesn't even have to be war, further tension and escalations suffices plenty. Look at Israel and Ukraine we've sent them tens, even hundreds of billions in outdated equipment stockpiles these last few years. Factories are already at work replacing them. Pump the fear everyone invested in defense profits, regardless of war.
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Secret_Squire1@reddit

US defense companies have indeed benefited from increased military spending. Although Raytheon is the only defense stock up a negligible amount over the last year. Having said that I still don’t agree with your argument. Most people have a diversified stock portfolio. Wealthy individuals and senior members of our government aren’t going to benefit more by the slight increase in defense stocks rather than a healthy economy. I do believe that we are seeing a deliberate attempt at removing American influence from the world by adversarial state actors. It not only includes current wars, but also through the destabilizing of the American dollar. Ultimately this is going to hurt our economy more than anything else. US defense stocks are still American companies listed on the US stock exchange which is listed in US dollars, a fiat currency with no underlying value except the full faith and stability of the American government. The level of destabilization produced by the current wars does not help the system in which we will live economically. Moreover, US defense spending represents 3.5% of our GDP and US defense stocks represents roughly 2% of the total market cap of US publicly listed companies. Politicians and senior members of our government are better off staying ahead of trending news and trading based on insider information.
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Lovelyterry@reddit

Putin invaded Ukraine to help Northrop Grumman 
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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

Biden just signed a bill that essentially sends an Additional 95 billion to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. 3 billion to the border for the lols. Previously there was a bill for 40 billion to Ukraine. This is all in addition to already existing annual expenditures we send to those countries in aid. I'm not about to suggest Putin is in on a scheme to launder hundreds of billions for the MIC, but that would be a hell of a thought. Maybe Xi and Sinwar are in on it too.
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Trumpton2023@reddit

Use reverse psychology. OK then, DON'T use reverse psychology
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OutlawCaliber@reddit

They said they're gonna do it by 2027, so.... I mean maybe we're trying to push them to do it now? Idk.
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StormyDaze1175@reddit

Lmao, gaslighting at its best.
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Outside_Simple_3710@reddit

As crazy as this sounds, I remember telling myself the same thing when pelosi took that trip.
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chronicwastelander@reddit

Whatever.stop cyber attacks before china gets bent over.
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Maasauu@reddit

They're seeing NATOs Best Friend kicking the shit out of their "best friend". Imperial delusions slowly fading away, Mr. Pooh?
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iambingalls@reddit

Ukraine is on the verge of complete collapse and Russia is now the fourth largest economy in the world...
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bshark4542@reddit

By what metric?
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Lovelyterry@reddit

The tucker Carlson exposé on Russian supermarkets was extremely enlightening to many patriotic Americans. 
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ProfessorPhahrtz@reddit

What the fuck, praytell are you talking about?
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Maasauu@reddit

Xi trying to pretend invading Taiwan wasn't his idea. Ukraine is holding strong against Russia with all the new aid finally flowing in and F16s coming soon. Crimea becoming an unusable russian base of operation. Of course Xi wants to lower his war footing now that shit looks bad for him and his friends.
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ProfessorPhahrtz@reddit

Wow it sounds like USA, NATO, The West, and the Brave Democrats [scored a touchdown](https://astroturf.com/artifical-sports-turf/football-turf/) against Putler, Winnie the Pooh, and the traitors in Congress. We, the everyday American people, are so lucky to live free from their militaristic and pro-war propaganda. It's impossible to state how superior and far sighted our leaders and, more importantly, our cultural norms and institutions, are compared to these undemocratic countries.
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satansbroccoli@reddit

Damn, an actual tankie in the wild
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ProfessorPhahrtz@reddit

https://preview.redd.it/zoo20rwob97d1.png?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=045c6cc73eeabe07f6488bc0654247c46b25d6fb
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Noochdontdiehemltply@reddit

Are you serious?
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Lovelyterry@reddit

In your mind is Putin smart to have escalated the invasion of Ukraine in 2022?
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Noochdontdiehemltply@reddit

He had no choice. USA has been planning their takeover for decades. He asked to join NATO. They refused. He asked that they stop expanding around him. They refused. When he wanted to negotiate. Johnson was sent to tell Zelensky no. USA has used Ukraine as a pawn and for a piggy bank for over 10 years now. When Russia went to put missles in Cuba. What’s did we do? Why would you expect him to do anything other than what he did ?
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Noochdontdiehemltply@reddit

Let’s not forget when Biden told their official if you want this billion $$ you do as I say.
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Noochdontdiehemltply@reddit

USA politicians who want forever wars hated that relations were getting better amongst NK. Russia, China and the Middle East. Even zelensky asked to talk recently and got shut down it’s like he’s not even in charge. I mean really he’s not in charge.
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HistoricalBed1598@reddit

Like how those women tricked Bill Cosby ….
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Gloomy-Ad-9827@reddit

Paranoid schizophrenia
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UnsurprisingDebris@reddit

Okay, so like just don't do it then?
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diaryofsnow@reddit

What’s that? Invade Taiwan?
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curbstyle@reddit

stop trying to talk me into invading Taiwan!!!
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Tank_Girl_Gritty_235@reddit

Stop trying to make me invading Taiwan happen. It's not going to happen! ![gif](giphy|XBEoaajXTXaALzawSn)
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UnsurprisingDebris@reddit

No Xi! Bad Xi!
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lemonwater40@reddit

That’s what he’s saying
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UnsurprisingDebris@reddit

Words are cheap.
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Unfair_Bunch519@reddit

All china has to do is wait 20 years and the USA will have the same problems that Russia has currently.
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lurkandpounce@reddit

Sounds like some major face-saving going on here.
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ThisJokeMadeMeSad@reddit

China: ![gif](giphy|YR8neVRcCSqwmJkb1D)
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Hoondini@reddit

Just like Russia, everything is America's fault
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No_Job_5208@reddit

Unlike Russia, which took the bait when tricked into invading Ukraine by US led NATO drum beating!
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Flat_Boysenberry1669@reddit

This is actually really good hopefully this kinda rhetoric keeps up because it means china blinked and we might be able to avoid war with them.
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Hearth21A@reddit

The comment was made in April 2023, per the article. Not sure why it's being written about over a year later.
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Franklin_le_Tanklin@reddit

Is it still true?
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sambull@reddit

Intel is betting that TSMC will be ended
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Neat_Concert_4138@reddit

It was never true. Just look at what China was doing and saying last month with Taiwan.
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Plastic-Shopping5930@reddit

I wish China would try. It’d be one the most epic ass kickings in human history.
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ToePasteTube@reddit

Sooo they are about to attack?
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alternative5@reddit

Just like how Russia was saying how the US was lying about the invasion of Ukraine and the US was like "ok prove us wrong" lol.
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Lovelyterry@reddit

Yea that was funny. A bunch of American conservatives were so wrong as usual 
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BradTProse@reddit

They're waiting for the USA to invade Iran for Israel. Russia won't let Ukraine have Crimea back, they'll use artillery nukes to stop them. WW3 official declaration will happen anytime now.
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commentaddict@reddit

We’re actually leaving the Middle East. We only attacked the Houthis for optics. That’s why Saudi Arabia is buddy buddy with Israel now. It’s also why Hamas attacked Israel on Oct 7, when Israel was supposed to sign something like a formal alliance with Israel.
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KJ6BWB@reddit

> when Israel was supposed to sign something like a formal alliance with Israel They were supposed to sign with themselves?
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commentaddict@reddit

Saudi Arabia. Otherwise I wouldn’t have mentioned them genius.
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KJ6BWB@reddit

Whew, mate, you're getting you a little testy. Just step back from commenting and cool the addiction. ;)
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tf9623@reddit

I read somewhere that they were having all kinds of issues in some wargames (nothing worked right - people weren't in the right place - just a cluster). So now to save face it would perfect to say "we're not doing it because you are just trying to trick us" This where you'd call BS if you were serious.
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commentaddict@reddit

They have issues with corruption in the military, where officers have sold munitions meant for training and defense which is how they found rockets filled with water. Xi also gutted military leadership in a set of purges. Not to mention the biggest problem China has is with demographics ie the birth rate is worse than Japan’s now and old people are starting to outnumber working adults. Having a war will only make that much worse. The only reason we’re beating them on demographics is solely due to immigration.
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tf9623@reddit

Man you are exactly on point and you understand the one child thing and the immigration here. I’d like to have a beer with you sometime. Unfortunately you know a lot of senior military leadership has been purged here. Lastly - ask the Ukraine and Russia about corruption. Thanks for the response.
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commentaddict@reddit

Yup, we have our own problems like a potential civil war that foreign enemies like China will take advantage of.
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FreakyBoy156@reddit

![gif](giphy|777Aby0ZetYE8)
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ProfessorPhahrtz@reddit

Under international law the island of Formosa is sovereign territory of the Democratic Republic of China and not even the US formally recognizes its independence.
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IsaKissTheRain@reddit

> “[…]the island of Formosa[…]“ doesn’t exist.
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ProfessorPhahrtz@reddit

Well if the island doesn't exist, what's everyone arguing over lmao
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IsaKissTheRain@reddit

The nation of Taiwan. Cry about it. ^And ^because ^I ^know ^who ^you ^are, ^I’m ^not ^going ^to ^waste ^the ^calories ^typing ^to ^you ^further.
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ProfessorPhahrtz@reddit

No u
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denverner@reddit

Lots of info in this 60mins Episode An American in China; A Quiet Invasion [https://youtu.be/n1bfkqtVA8w](https://youtu.be/n1bfkqtVA8w?si=nnaKuZ-7W-EOdALK)
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Good bot
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spaetzelspiff@reddit

Dude, is this r/PrepperIntel, or r/UpliftingNews?
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new_to_this_0@reddit

lol are global politics now a game of made you look?
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diaryofsnow@reddit

Made you die
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CaptianTumbleweed@reddit

He’s only been taking about “reunification” and invading their air and water space with military jets and boats for a decade now, but yeah blame the USA.
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beginner75@reddit

His buddy also said he won’t invade, just before he was going to do so.
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Neat_Concert_4138@reddit

Anyone who believes a word that comes out of this guy's mouth... I got ocean front property to sell you in Montana.
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Jetpack_Attack@reddit

It'll pay off in a couple hundred years 
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icy_awareness_710@reddit

President Xi just turned 71. As a person he is pretty sharp. But he’s at the helm of a monster and political office doesn’t pay very well over there. They aren’t buzzing Japan. Ours and their navies like to push each others buttons. The gas has been poured and just needs a match, so to speak. That’s my armchair analysis lol
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Ismokeditalleveryday@reddit

That fifth grade education Xi has seems to be working!
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Illustrious_Ice_4587@reddit

That's a big claim
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Awesome_hospital@reddit

Pretty much every country: https://preview.redd.it/w3xht8ms087d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c7a00d873c66daf56a370da1adb81dc8a244509
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