Question on my rock island 10mm 1911 double stack

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Severe_Islexdia@reddit

Happens to my RIA tac 10 all the time -I just stopped shooting it due to this happening. I’m sure it’s something simple I’ve been told magazines will fix it but idk I’ll be watching this thread for answers.

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Interesting-Row5242@reddit

Polish the feed ramp and get better mags fixed my issue 100 percent

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hanshoffman@reddit

I’m having this problem. So far I’ve polished the feed ramp and taken the sharp bevels off of the extractor. That helped a little. The issue seems to be that the back of the round does not slide up the breach face as quickly as the front slides up the feed ramp. If I take a little pressure off of the round by pulling just a little bit back on the slide then the round slides up the breach face and chambers. Next I’ll try messing with the mag feed lips. Maybe if the case rim clears the mag lip earlier it will run better. After that I might try polishing the breach face.

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wtfredditacct@reddit

Inexpensive 1911 style guns usually have 2 main issues that have both already been brought up in the comment section: magazines and the need to break-in (or just polish) the contact parts like the feed ramps. Start with high quality magazines from the likes of Chip McCormick or Wilson Combat. Then take a dremel and put a mirror finish on your feed ramp. 99% of feed issues will go away.

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ZealousidealTap4467@reddit

double stack 10

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UnnecessaryIncome@reddit

I own the 9mm version of this and occasionally had this problem as well but after about 1,000 rounds it stopped happening. I thing the primary problem for the jamming is the really aggressive feed ramp on this gun because it is a lot steeper than normal 1911s. Approximately how many rounds have you fired with this?

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ZealousidealTap4467@reddit

That is because your extractor loosened up probably.

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Inevitable-Rip6574@reddit (OP)

Probably 200, I’ve only had it 3-4 months

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UnnecessaryIncome@reddit

Based off of what I experienced with mine, it should stop happening after a while due to wear. Something I neglected to mention is that when I got new mags this issue would pop up again but to a much lesser degree then when mine was brand new. Have you tried pushing the slide home without removing the mag? If you are able to do that then it is probably just an issue of breaking it in but if you can't then the feed lips on the mag might be slightly too long and causing the back bottom part of the casing to bind on the feed lips.

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ZealousidealTap4467@reddit

looks like the breech face either needs polishing or the ejector is too tight. Everyone is quick to polish the ramp but the case is not on the ramp when it stove pipes.
I bet that is a 10mm RIA. A issue with those is the mag sets too low. You need a double stack mag catch from dawson or ben stoeger that lifts the mag a little higher. To test try just taking the slack out of the mag upward by palming it and then drop the slide and see if it chambers. Also the mag lips should angle the cartridge just a little higher in the front. But try holding the mag up a little first before you take the chance of ruining a mag lip adjustment. You will feel a stop when you hit the wall. Dont keep pushing it up past that first felt stop. Past that you will feel a definite harder push back and dont push that hard.

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nmotsch789@reddit

Playing around with live ammo in your gun at home. That's real smart.

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Inevitable-Rip6574@reddit (OP)

Finger never went on the trigger, I am cautious but not scared of firearms. I’ve been taught gun safety since I was in diapers 😂 I would agree that someone with no experience should be very wary 👍

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nmotsch789@reddit

Why create the possibility, though? Unless you're preparing a gun for home defense or to carry or something, there's no need to be loading live ammo into it inside of your home.

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No-Apple-3673@reddit

spit on it

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dinkdinkleman1@reddit

Just that magazine or others? It's just that mag. It could be the lips of the magazine too tight. If it happens with all of them it's the feed ramp

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Kyle_Blackpaw@reddit

use full metal jacket or tipped hollowpoint. 1911 patterns can be really picky about flat tipped ammo

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raddu1012@reddit

Hit the mag in even harder they don’t like to seat

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Rujtu3@reddit

The problem is that it’s a Rock Island. A few hundred rounds should wear that in.

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gremlin_couple@reddit

nice 1911

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duhdoodle@reddit

The gun has a lifetime warranty, email them and ask them to fix it.

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rangerhi@reddit

Check the extractor tension. It might be too tight not allowing the round to slide up the face of the slide and chamber when dropped from slide lock. Might be a burr on the exterior too.

Also polish the feed ramp.

Same issue on a .45 Sig 1911 a friend had. These two items above fixed it. 100% reliable afterwards.

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Local_Ad_1333@reddit

Please use snap caps

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Important_Yam_3351@reddit

He never touched the trigger..

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thatswhyicarryagun@reddit

Watch again bro.

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Financial_Following@reddit

For real

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StorkyMcGee@reddit

Came here to say this, and I'm saying it again as a direct response.

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SPECTREagent700@reddit

yeah I was watching this fully expecting it to got off at the end

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renasancedad@reddit

I wonder if the magwell adapter isn’t allowing the magazine to seat completely. Is the base cap on your magazine tapered or flat? Good luck.

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Special_EDy@reddit

Don't use TCFP (Truncated Cone Flat Point) ammo. It will jam in a lot of 10mm guns like Glocks as well.

I had feeding issues like you are in half of my 10mm guns, then I tried out RN (Round Nose) and RSFP (Round Shoulder Flat Point) and never get failures to feed anymore. Most hollow points have a round shoulder, those will feed easily as well.

Truncated Cone Flat Point is common because it is used in 40S&W loads. If you look at 9mm, it is proportionally similar to 10mm, both are long and slender whereas 45acp, 357 Sig, and 40S&W are relatively short and fat. 9mm is almost exclusively a round shoulder or round nose, this is necessary to reliably feed such a long and skinny cartridge. 10mm is similar, it needs a round shoulder or nose.

You are getting a Failure to Feed because the Flat angle of the shoulder is wedging onto the roof of the chamber. The cartridge is sitting on the flat shoulder, wedged against the feed ramp and slide/breech face.

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pguy4life@reddit

Was waiting for the desk pop

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Important_Yam_3351@reddit

He never touched the trigger 😂

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Cerberus73@reddit

Or the finger pop. Eeesh. Trigger discipline, muzzle discipline, snap caps, rack practice, etc.

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Beast_Man_1334@reddit

Could be the ammo. I've noticed a lot of people who use holo points in the 1911 models tend to have jams and misfeeds. Not an expert on that just an inference. Try standard ammo if it still does it follow the others advice.

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praiseTheGoon@reddit

I had the same issue with mine the feed lips on the mag aren't gaped right for 10mm if you open them up little it should fix it

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TopRestaurant5395@reddit

1911s are not double stacked, those are called 2011s i believe.

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Inevitable-Rip6574@reddit (OP)

From what I understand mines a bit of a mutt. It has a double stack like a 2011 but it is one solid steel piece instead of 2 like a 1911

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Lord_Drok@reddit

I have several para 1911s that are double stack. They were the leading innovators of double stack 1911s

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mjay727@reddit

With my old ria in .45, I had similar issues… polishing feed ramp helped, but I also just had better success loading by pulling the slide back and releasing instead of using the slide release lever…

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echo202L@reddit

What ammo are you using in it?

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Heat-one@reddit

Not related to your question, but please dont slide that back with your hand near the front of the slide. While doing so your trigger finger curled inwards. I used to do that too to check for clearing and it's pretty unsafe.

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StorkyMcGee@reddit

Dude, snap caps. They're 15$

https://www.amazon.com/Action-Pro-Trainer-Cartridge-Ammunition/dp/B004KZ357G/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3QEG2OAJY8ON6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VQb-VZAcKdk5AbVskw2ncXrTJ7r5_rD44uy9__G03W6kBAglt_45vdk0E9nlkjpf-Tgddcwjtw7e5IV62ToDaxI2Rn7aMg8v8nbtgqsn6zya5Rf4c9vKpwwRcecNQG8hFcT55zlAkbdw14HYPlW5SdfTVS935Y7PER9VJ5CUAqHRh-Oqs2M2ZgqCgBhrLVJPH61tj439qSgxEqpV4_d79HNjfhL_7KmxvzdDL7eb5uOyOOqCfv1qRMOK6wQO36aIIjqs_1XcMDE1nQW5agYmod9ubU1bvUEFE64Sk_pIz_c.q6AlELvx0oaRYFECCK-4oo2IuI4F2FS4TUSTf4rXAzE&dib_tag=se&keywords=9mm+snap+caps&qid=1718029894&sprefix=9mm+snap+caps%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-4

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YouLeftistPOS@reddit

The spring in my Mec-Gar mag (the kind included with this gun when I bought one) was like this. As you may have already realized it is probably very hard to get that last round loaded in the magazine, and to get that first one to chamber properly. Load it up completely, unload the rounds, repeat. It might take 25 times, could take 40. But you’ll see an improvement as the spring starts to yield a little more. I’m not 100% sure how but I think the feed pattern gets a little weird with these 2011 mags, especially the 10mm, and taut springs don’t make it any better.

Also, affirmative on lubricating this gun’s slide, the outside of the barrel, etc. all of the parts that move and interface surface on surface. This helped me when mine used to jam up on the first round or two.

I never had polished my feed ramp but I’m sure that will certainly help too.

Lastly, this isn’t the issue your gun is having, but don’t limp wrist while shooting if you’re ever feeling hesitant with a gun as it needs a firm grip to recoil and reciprocate the slide so that the next round chambers.

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matteekay@reddit

Spring tension was my first guess, too. Like someone else said, try it with a partially filled mag and see if it still happens.

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teilani_a@reddit

Yep it's a 1911.

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Objective-Link4879@reddit

You kind of scare me the way you are fumbling it around in your hands

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Inevitable-Rip6574@reddit (OP)

I was trying to not block the view of the camera on the gun. Normally I’m a lot smoother with it 😂

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LaDolceVita8888@reddit

I’ve never heard of a 1911 with feeding problems.

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Meganinja1886@reddit

The mag is ether not seating in all the way or has bad feed lips. Or the gun needs to be lubricated.

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Inevitable-Rip6574@reddit (OP)

I just cleaned and lubricated it, and it chambers fine when fired. It’s only messing up when you go to chamber the first round. My next step is probably gonna be getting another mag to try. If it’s still a problem it is probably the feed lips. Thanks for the insight

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Meganinja1886@reddit

No problem also get a sliver sharpie and start numbering your mags so that way if the problem arises again you can see what mags are causing it.

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new_d00d2@reddit

That’s that real life experience talking.

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JimMarch@reddit

Yeah, if I recall right it only comes with one mag. You need at least two more, test those first. Any more fails, polish the feed ramp.

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sputsputputput@reddit

Just being honest, this happens with 2011s and 1911s. If youre not having issues with feeding while actually firing, I dont know that I'd worry about it too much.

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gore_taco@reddit

That sucks.. I was looking at one a while back and went with the 10mm single......and it's been flawless. Hope you get yours sorted asap.

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Ferrule@reddit

Ya, reports like this is one of the reasons I went single stack. That, and it's already a heavy gat as is. My G40 with a 6.6" bar-sto barrel, optic, and 16rds loaded is still lighter...but man 1911s do feel so good in hand.

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ninjaraiden56@reddit

Is this the BOGO gun that was posted a little earlier on this sub?

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Inevitable-Rip6574@reddit (OP)

Possibly lol I got it on sale a few months ago, like 30% off

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jehjeh3711@reddit

I know the barrels float a little but there seems to be a lot of movement there. Is that normal?

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Inevitable-Rip6574@reddit (OP)

I have wondered that myself, it shoots fine so I figured it was normal but it does seem there is a lot of play

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hobbestigertx@reddit

Does it happen with all 3 mags? I had FTFs also and thought it was the gun. I compared all 3 mags and could not see a reason why that one did not feed correctly.

Ended up being just that one magazine. Sent it back and they replaced it. No more FTFs.

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Inevitable-Rip6574@reddit (OP)

Mine only came with one mag so it’s a huge possibility that could be the problem

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Snackysmacker@reddit

Just watched it again. Noticed you're using hollow points. Maybe run fmjs to break it in?

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Inevitable-Rip6574@reddit (OP)

It’s a possibility. I have ran fmj up to this point and it’s still caught up. I will try again when I get home

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sarge_94@reddit

Polish feed ramp and try a different magazine

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Grandemestizo@reddit

If I were you I’d polish the feed ramp. Don’t get crazy with it.

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benny719@reddit

Polish the feed ramp and change the spring in your mag

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Separate-Region117@reddit

All of the 1911s I own are old..i feel that these newer models have a lot of finicky mistakes.. those older models run so smooth..

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SkyHighDeadEye@reddit

Polish the feed ramp.

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themperorhasnocloth@reddit

This

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IamNulliSecundus@reddit

Check a couple of factory manufacturers

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Richecks@reddit

Looks like just a bit more than "polish the feed ramp" might want to take a very fine file on the feed ramp first. Then some emery paper, then some polish. But idk man...(for legal purposes) in Minecraft.

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thetrooper93@reddit

This

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Shootistism@reddit

Yeah this is probably it. I have a .45 1911 from them and it was getting stuck like this all the time. Used a dremel to polish it to a mirror finish and I've never had a single feed issue since.

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Adventurous-Chef-370@reddit

🇵🇱 the feed ramp

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sinsofcarolina@reddit

This happened to mine as well. 1) go shoot it and ignore the FTFs. Couple hundred rounds should help.
2) polish the feed ramp to accelerate this if you want.
3) fully load the magazines during storage to help soften the springs.

Did this with my 10mm, Shield Arms 43X mags, and Prodigy mags when all 3 had this same issue. After shooting a couple hundred rounds through and storing mags this way, no more issues.

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ApprehensiveCicada50@reddit

Polish the feed ramp with some steel wool. Several Springfields have the same issue.

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LIFEWALKERUSA@reddit

I had this issue with girsan 1911 with the mags that came with it. Swapped em out and haven't had any issues. Someone told me feed ramp but I haven't messed with that

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Party-Ad8832@reddit

See if the breech face is coarse. Once had the issue 100% solved after touching it a bit.

Another culprit may be the extractor claw. If it is too sharp, steep, wrong angle or just too strong, it may grab the rim and cause that.

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LeoTheVulpine@reddit

Try using another mag

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Bobathaar@reddit

Welcome to owning a rock island armory firearm.... the gun that reddit poors insist is JuStAzGuUd because "they have colt molds!" and anyone that pays three to ten grand for a semicustom or custom pistol MUST be just burning money for no good reason.

So... there's a few reason why your gun might be doing this. First and most likely: the extractor is tuned too tightly and the round can't slip under it with just the force of the slide going forward, resulting in the symptomatic nose up into the top of the chamber failure to feed. To fix this, take the extractor out. insert the round bit in the channel backwards, so the extractor sticks out the back of the gun, and give it a few whacks with a special extractor tuning tool (commonly known as a hammer). You want to whack it so it's a bit straighter than it currently is. If you whack it too much and the extractor no longer holds rounds tightly, simply repeat the process whacking the other way until you get desired tension. This is why we call it "tuning" an extractor.

Second: you might have burs on your feed ramp preventing smooth feeding of rounds OR your feed ramp might be the wrong angle from RIA. You can do some preliminary polishing yourself diy with a polishing compound, but more advanced feed ramp stuff is probably in the realm of "send it back to ria via rma". Generally, conventional wisdom regarding RIA (before the reddit poverty crew started shilling for them) was that you buy them, they don't work... you send it to the Philippines, they fix it, and it will work fine after you get it back.

Third: It's a mag issue. Try a different mag. If it works, it's a mag issue.

Fourth: it's an ammo issue. Certain guns just don't like certain rounds and not all rounds are perfectly to spec.

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HollowPandemic@reddit

My ria runs like a glock 🤷‍♂️

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Bobathaar@reddit

my man, nobody in the history of the world makes the financial decision to settle for an RIA over something better and then proceeds to put enough 45 acp/10mm through it to deserve to say "my ria runs like a glock". Maybe "My ria runs like a glock for a thousand rounds of 100 round sessions soaked in olive oil"... or "my ria runs like a glock so far... and I've put 2 boxes of ammo through it" or "I THINK my ria SHOULD run like a glock... and I'm sure it will if I ever shoot it".

Unless, of course, you're referring to the handling and shootability of the pistol... in which case... I dunno... all I really have to say is "I'm sorry you're going through that..." I've never been particularly impressed with glocks.

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HollowPandemic@reddit

Seeing as how it's at 3000 rounds with ZERO issues, I guess I'm right, huh?

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Bobathaar@reddit

uh huh... so divide by 3 because it's the internet and we all know you're lying and we have 1000 rounds... which... is like 1 real range trip. Lemme guess.... you also soaked it in lube every 200 rounds... or this was a thousand rounds one box per trip. Dude I can't believe you have me championing a glock of all things but an RIA isn't a glock and never will be. It's not even a quality 1911 and 1911's just take more maintenance than glocks.

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HollowPandemic@reddit

🤏😂

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Brilliant_Act_6172@reddit

You know so much about everyone and everything. It’s extremely impressive. I can only hope to one day be as knowledgeable as you are about people you have never met, and the guns they have, which you’ve never handled. It’s like you’re psychic or something. Keep it up, bud. Don’t ever change.

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doulikefishsticks69@reddit

Did you type all that with both pinkies up, a monocle, and piles of money on either side of you? Lmmfao damn Mr. Money bags, settle down. 🤣🤣🤣

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Bobathaar@reddit

Believe it or not, typed it all while freefalling into my Scrooge Mcduck money pit.

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vanillapixel@reddit

Iirc some of the mags RIA shipped with those 10 mm double stack 1911s had feed lips that were too long and would cause feeding issues. I do remember one of the mag manufacturers did not have this issue but I can't remember which one.

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Tacticalchimps@reddit

I’m guessing it’s a feed ramp issue, the ramp is snagging the mouth of the casing. Be careful if you try to polish the ramps, if you remove coatings/treated surfaces and leave it could cause more problems.

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Tacticalchimps@reddit

Or if it’s a magazine problem, it could be the front lip of the magazine is frayed or is too high and is snagging the mouth of the casing

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Pielayer69@reddit

It’s a rock island, it’s doing what’s intended

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Libido_Max@reddit

Its always the mag, 1911 likes a very used mag

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Hot-Opportunity8786@reddit

You saved a few bucks. Now you can take that savings to a gunsmith and spend it all anyway!

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rockit_jocky@reddit

In my limited experience, even the best double stack 1911s are finicky. Your first step should be to polish the feed ramp. Even then, sometimes only certain magazines work. And even among those, sometimes only certain ammo works. I hope you get it figured out.

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senorcoyotee@reddit

From what I know with my 1911s have someone polish feed ramp and 1911s have holo points and like to feed FMJ

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Toshinit@reddit

Try it once with one round missing from the magazine. It seems like the magazine follower is compressing it against the top of the magazine causing the malfunction.

If that’s the case you need new magazines are a break-in time. Had a similar issue with the PSA Micro dagger magazines in my 43X.

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fox3091@reddit

Does it do that when you don't lock the slide back? That can make a difference in diagnosing the issue properly.

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Heavy_Gap_5047@reddit

Brand new?

Go shoot it and break it in.

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