What would be in your leave the country Bug Out Bag?
Posted by Sgt_Smartarse@reddit | preppers | View on Reddit | 110 comments
Was reading a comic book and a leave the country style BOG was brought up in a discussion, so it got me thinking. What should be in a BOG(other than a passport) if you were fleeing your home country due to an emergency in said country, or you committed a crime(in case of the crime, let's say you didn't get stopped at the airport even after landing in the destination country)???
snuffy_bodacious@reddit
For most people under most circumstances, bugout plans are a bad idea.
randynumbergenerator@reddit
OP is specifically asking about a scenario where one has to flee.
snuffy_bodacious@reddit
Yeah, I considered that, but people spend WAAAAAY too much time discussing bugout plans, when they are simply a great way to get yourself killed.
magsmakes@reddit
when they're going door to door and sitting still means dying you take your chances. If the entire country is in collapse yeah, you're not getting out, but if it's just your community that's being targeted (lke xtian in a country in the midst of a muslim revolution or vise versa or suni v shia or queer in a country that starts a cleansing campaign against you or jewish in 30's europe) then fleeing is the smart money. Usually the need to bug tf out of your country is very personal to a minority population within a country that is canibalizing them not the general population.
snuffy_bodacious@reddit
It is far more dangerous going door-to-door (or trying to live off the fat of the land) than it is stay home where you have an enormous defensive advantage.
magsmakes@reddit
without serious numbers and public support the defensive advantage you have against the state is literally measured with a - in front of it. And going 'door to door' is literally what regimes have done multiple times with great success and massive death tolls in cleansing campaigns. "bugging out" with no end date and no secondary location within your own country is a refugee move, but there are circumstances that have happened around the world with a fair bit of regularity when it is literally the only option besides fighting and dying because your force is completely overwhelmed. 99% of time staying put is the smart move (provided you did even a very small amount of prep ahead of time to meet your needs) and the concept of bug-out should mean hotel for a week until the flood water recedes or the fire is out and then heading home to start fighting insurance adjusters, but for some select populations not being prepared for the possible event of needing to flee the country and seek asylum is just negligent. this is a reality for some people and if you've never had to wonder if they'll come for you then that's a privilege that you should be thankful for.
chasonreddit@reddit
Money. Lots and lots of money. With that you can usually solve any other problem.
Sure a Dob kit essential meds and other comfort items. But you are not going to leave the country and go camping.
magsmakes@reddit
"But you are not going to leave the country and go camping." this is true to an extent but depending on the size of your country and the length of your journey you might be doing quite a bit of camping on the way and even after you get into your next stop there are often cases where you are dumped in a refugee camp with your personal belongings after the valuable stuff and the weapons have been pilfered so having some things like a sleeping mat and sleeping bag and sometimes even a 1 person tent and a way to cook some food if you get it could be invaluable.
waby-saby@reddit
But it's gonna take money
A whole lotta spendin' money
It's gonna take plenty of money
To do it right, child
ThrowRA_helpleh@reddit
I wouldn’t leave the country, I’d just go as far north as possible if a situation actually warranted bugging out (which most situations wouldn’t for me).
Cold weather gear, a plan and tools/supplies for shelter, a plan and supplies to filter/treat water, a medical kit, hunting equipment and cleaning/cooking equipment. It would take a very extreme scenario for this to become an actual plan for me though.
TarynFyre@reddit
I grew up in MT were it can get -40 in winter....
Jonesstealth@reddit
Right... honestly north is a worst case scenario if we are fleeing. I would look for a very small "village" or even look up ghost towns before you leave they tend to have abandoned shelters. The other options are the forestry cabins or survival shelters in provincial parks. If you know how to access them you can plan just to get to one survive and make a plan moving forward. The cold is very scary.
bardwick@reddit
That would be tough. You're bag would have to have all the tools to execute a plan to evade the military and law enforcement of both the US, the target country and your mode of transport.
If you are talking an event in the US, anything that would have people flee the US en masse would be globally impacting. Meaning, air travel will shut down, ports will shut down. What does move will be prioritized to the military.
If it's just specific to you fleeing a crime, I think the answer is the same for both....
A shit ton of cash.
nayls142@reddit
The US is an island. Unless you get out before SHTF, odds are, you'll be stuck. Flights will be shut down, Canada and Mexico will close land borders as they won't want to be overrun with refugees. I've already seen this happen twice in my life, governments will gladly do it again.
Gritforge@reddit
To be fair, if you have any wilderness survival experience, the Canadian border would not be difficult to get across.
Jonesstealth@reddit
You need to worry about the cold up here in canada. If it's winter and your not prepared to hike/camp in very cold conditions than most of the border should not be tried.
Only a tiny fraction of BCs border would be "warm" enough in the winter to cross without risking death by hypothermia and exposure. Even then the wilderness trails that would allow you to cross are high enough elevation that winter is still very present and community's may be an hour by car. Be very realistic if choosing that as a route
KrinkyDink2@reddit
Borders have limits on amount of cash you can take without declaring and if things are bad enough that you have to flee they might lower it even more. Wearable bullion like high weight 24k bracelets or rings might be worth while and could let you pack on a several ounces of gold inconspicuously.
bardwick@reddit
The cash is for bribes. It's the only way you're getting out/in/transport.
KrinkyDink2@reddit
Ya, but cash isn’t always good for that. If things are so bad (in the US of all places) that you’re fleeing (presumably to Mexico or Canada?) it’s not that far fetched to think gold could be more desirable than cash. Gold is also more readily converted to the cash of your country of choice. Any pawn shop in any country can turn gold into the local currency, you’d need a bank or something to convert $thousands of USD to Pesos or something.
Sgt_Smartarse@reddit (OP)
Yeah makes sense.
Impossible_Fail2209@reddit
I don't have heirlooms or anything sentimental, am retired, single. I do not have kids.
My degree was useful for my career but I have already shredded it. Same for old photos. I have some travel photos but these would be shredded quickly in my shredder.
My goal would be to make a fresh start anonymously with no former baggage (pun intended). At the retirement stage of life this is much easier as pensions are payable worldwide. I would rent and sublet in the new place, not purchase. I do not drive, so there is no hassle with driver's license, etc. Obviously I would need a place with decent public transit. I would try to appear like an older tourist.
Impossible_Fail2209@reddit
Also, what if you were unfortunate enough to witness a major crime and wanted to flee for your life?
I am retired thus I would not need to work in a new place.
For those who want to disappear and are retired: shred any aspect of your former life that you can - photos, diplomas, delete web presence and accounts.
In advance of leaving:
A phone call to my lawyer giving him POA to sell my home assuming I would not be back, drop home keys to law office. A call to the doctor to advise that I will be needing a new pharmacy and new doctors. A call to the insurance company advising of home for sale within hours.
Packing architecture (the bags):
I would pack one personal item, one carry on and one checked bag to be within the normal travel profile. All within size limits - no stuffing into measurement cage as this could attract attention. All neutral plain color, not patterned.
The packing process:
I would bring 3 pairs of shoes, orthotics, 3 pairs of eye glasses, presciption medication, etc. Pants, capris, tops, socks, u/wear, fleece jackets, appropriate outerwear for the weather. All ID and whatever cash I have in the home and some more from a bank machine all within legal limits and reason. Bank ID card would permit account use from most nations. I would not be fleeing the law or the government but the person and their group who saw me see them commit a serious crime.
Lawyer's work behind the scenes:
The lawyer would need to hire someone to sort through the home and give a quick call to 1-800-Got Junk to remove stuff I would not be taking. They donate and recycle what they can. For safety reasons I would not allow a family member to do this - remember I had just witnessed a serious crime. The lawyer would hire a real estate agent to sell the home, priced at lower market value for a quick sale and possession date. I would be fleeing the nation and definitely would not come back to the same city if I ever return.
tooserioustoosilly@reddit
Well, I'm not sure what emergency you are talking about that would make it so that you would need to leave the country? That would have a big deal to do with what your bug out bag had in it, and also, how you were planning to leave the country? The only possible reason I see to leave my country is if I'm falsely accused of a crime that would make it impossible to stay free in my current country. So then, of course, the passport and other stuff would not matter since I would have to leave the country through less convenient ways. Because if the country was in a war, I would stay and fight. If there was a revolution, I would be on a side. If there was a civil war, I would take a side. If there was a global catastrophe would it matter where I'm at? If there was some local catastrophe I'm already prepared for the majority of the possible problems. How would leaving where I have things and people in place to survive help me in the long run?
IDoWhatIWill@reddit
10 gold bars and a. 45 with hollow tips.
Brilliant_Wealth_433@reddit
I refuse to leave the country that my family came to during the Irish Potato famine. I will stay and fight the tyrants and either die doing so or see freedom renewed for the future generations of my Irish blood.
Marco_Farfarer@reddit
Bad news, bud: if your ancestors came there during the great famine, you‘re as „Irish“ as tikka masala and doner kebab.
HeavyMettAal@reddit
High res. scans of every important document. Passport, Drivers license, birth certificate, insurance, every contract, school certificate, proof of ownership Etc.
You don't exist without your documents. Without them it's very hard to start a new life or to even proof that you are a real person. Most refugees get stuck for months or even years in kind of a bureaucracy limbo until they are cleared.
Important data stored encrypted on 3 high quality USB sticks from 3 different manufacturers. One stick goes in a hidden compartment in your backpack, one is kept at all times on your body and the last one is send by mail or by a trusted person to your destination country.
Also zip all documents, encrypt them and upload to a secure Cloud storage.
The other important thing to have as a refugee is a backup phone, wall charger and Powerbank. Store them in a watertight bag and hide them in your backpack. Never show them to anyone. Only use in an emergency.
Then a laminated list with important contacts and numbers. Like your embassy, friends and family, Etc.
And most important: never ever let your backpack out of sight. This thing contains your life now. Protect it.
Sgt_Smartarse@reddit (OP)
This is nice info, thx!
Is carrying a couple thousand USD in your bag a good idea, and maybe getting it converted to the local currency in the destination country when you get there???
No_Character_5315@reddit
That and plain gold jewelery highest karat you can afford bracelet necklace that can be sold for melt value.
SitaBird@reddit
That’s what a lot of Indians do, is wear gold, which is the equivalent of carrying your wallet with you, especially the women. Traditionally they don’t always have bank accounts, don’t have access to money if they experience a disaster, are stranded, abandoned, etc.
Konstant_kurage@reddit
Carrying a large amount of cash puts you at risk of asset forfeiture and it will just be gone. Even if you follow all the rules.
My rule for travel, international or anywhere by aircraft is never carry anything you can’t risk losing. Phone/tablet/laptop is tricky. US CBP can demand to search it (there are rules that slightly protect US citizens, but your life can be made difficult) and other countries have rules all over the place. I travel with a clean phone, and load a cloud backup once I arrive at my lodging, as long as there are strong search protections. If not I leave it in the cloud to be retrieved it I need it.
Comfortable-Yak3940@reddit
Civil asset forfeiture is such an important concept that not enough people know about. The money and your property can just be seized without any recourse (and that's now, not even in a SHTF scenario). Thank you for highlighting this topic.
Optimal_Law_4254@reddit
This would be the one use case I would consider for crypto. I’d spread my money over a few different wallets and have multiple encrypted copies of how to recover them. If you have a clean smartphone and have stored the documents as described elsewhere you should be able to recover the wallets when you’re safe.
I would also carry about 5k in cash. Not enough to cause problems but enough to help you get a phone and get access to the rest of your savings.
No_Character_5315@reddit
Crypto is hard to convert to cash on alot of countries without a bank account. Your better off with plain gold high karat jewelry.
MangoDouble3259@reddit
I would agree yes cash pov is possible but lot more tricky. But their are actually some easier crypto solutions currently out if you want to let say have like a prepaid debit card type solutions where you can fund set account with crypto and treating like prepaid debit card you can go through life making your regular purchases and you remain anonymous.
That's assuming your bugging out to a country that has internet or accepts tap pay solutions. If you going to cash place your going need prob bring precious metals and then go through some hoops possible but take min to get cash.
No_Character_5315@reddit
Yah prepaid travel credit card is really smart some you can load via crypto I didn't think of that. But I'm thinking most refugees got placed in camps till they are processed and that could take awhile so cash and gold are probably king in those places.
MangoDouble3259@reddit
Agree more of a longer term solution once your out of chaos or can reach a non third world country. Situation above sounds like ur country going into anarchy your life savings basically gone or your criminal and all ur assets will be frozen.
Panimu@reddit
It really wasn’t lol
mountainvalkyrie@reddit
Along with your documents (and your children's and pet's, if any), I'd add good scans of clear pictures of your loved ones. It can help you find each other again if you get separated. And for sentimental reasons. Copies of medical records/prescription can be useful, too.
Someone might have a better idea for how to do this, but in your list of contacts and numbers, you might want to keep your log-in info to your email and social media accounts. You might lose access to your phone or laptop where they're stored and even if you have them memorized, you can forget them under stress. Social media can be a good way to get back in contact with friends and family who were also scattered.
To your question, though, if you can stand losing a few thousand USD, I'd take it. Hard currency is useful for transportation, food, and shelter. But it depends on what kind of trip you're expecting. My experience is limited to Europe.
DeFiClark@reddit
No, you are much better off establishing an account in your destination country through a bank such as HSBC with international presence.
Parking-Influence903@reddit
I never thought of that, So thank you for your insight. Great idea
reduhl@reddit
One idea is to think of is microSD cards with the data. Also look at a Raspberry Pi micro computer. It’s fairly easy to hook into most systems. They are quite small and useful.
ElScrotoDeCthulo@reddit
Where are the shelter water food and physical security items
No_Character_5315@reddit
Under 10k in cash and plain gold jewelery that can be sold in any free country for melt prices.
totmacher12000@reddit
But a scan of your passport? I doubt that will fly lol
pajamakitten@reddit
It can. It at least establishes your identity and citizenship in your birth country. It will also help if you ever need help from your embassy.
EnderWiggin42@reddit
There are also RFID implants while there isn't a lot of memory you could Easily store your most important access keys, crypto keys, or passwords.
Either_Wear5719@reddit
I'd also add copies of any professional certifications that could transfer over to the destination country. It will speed up the employment eligibility if you are already qualified to work in jobs that are otherwise going un filled and also make it easier to integrate into the community if you are seen by others as an asset and not some refugee draining their resources for years
DeFiClark@reddit
In addition to this: high res scans stored in a secure web-accessible format, additional copies in trust of family or trusted associates and ideally notarized copies in the care of a legal firm with international presence.
Do not assume that your journey will allow you to come across borders with anything beyond the clothes on your back. Many refugees lose their documents or have them stolen along the way, even secreted USBs.
Funds deposited in a bank with international branches such as HSBC. Ideally a joint bank account with the other holder in your destination country so your home country cannot easily freeze the funds.
Technical-Jelly-5985@reddit
I would definately carry all the important documents (passport, birth certificate, international driver's license, insurance paperwork,...). I would also add a list of embassies in different with addresses and phone numbers in case they are still operational and you need some government asistence. Then I would recommend asking your bank wheather you can open a second account in a different currency and get issued a debit card - I have a special account in € that I use whenever I travel outside of Czech Republic to avoid worrying avoid extra fees and predatory exchange rates.
Other than documents, you are limited by what you can reasonably pack and what local regulations allow you to bring on board - firearms will probably be a no-go unless you know the legal process and larger quantities of precious metals might be taxed or confiscated upon arrival depending on where you land.
Deimosx@reddit
Engraved in metal bitcoin seed keys to protect hard assets immune from inflation.
_ssuomynona_@reddit
I like what everyone recommends. I’d also check r/onebag for their ideas. I’d also add my menstrual cup and otc medicines. It would be hard to find medicine in another language. At least a days worth of Tylenol, Pepto, Imodium, Benadryl… would have me feel better in the meantime figuring out the boxes in the store.
CookieAdventure@reddit
If the USA falls, there is no where else to go.
Not_Of_This_World777@reddit
Typical liberal Reddit. You're right they just don't like it. If the USA falls where are we going to go Russia? Ukraine? China? Korea? UK?
UK would be the best bet except its been taken over by Muslim terrorists now. The UK has fallen.
HonduranLoon@reddit
lol, you should get out more.
Early_Umpire_2630@reddit
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/apr/02/emergency-bags-packed-for-quick-getaway-activists-fires-floods
wasabi3O5@reddit
A whole lotta boolets
barchael@reddit
I would say that in the scenario you presented it would be just like packing for a vacation where you may go camping: a carry on with rugged travel gear for any weather, important documents scanned and sealed in waterproofing, basic first aid kit, foul weather gear, important contacts on laminated sheet and written in marker inside your travel clothes. Full stock of any medications with copies of the prescription.
Nothing should stand out too much, because you don’t want to be pinged by government agencies, not singled out by civilian bad actors. You need to get somewhere else, where you can then establish a new gear set out and/or base of operations.
randynumbergenerator@reddit
To expand on travel/camping gear, bivvy bags are very compact compared to a tent and can be used for other things with some improvisation.
barchael@reddit
Bivvy bag and puffy clothing can do real well on its own, and a ultralight bivvy sack rolled in luggage just looks like clothes.
barchael@reddit
I would add that travel funds in paper bills and digital (if applicable) makes sense to keep in “escrow” packed with the bag.
Torx_Bit0000@reddit
Leatherman
Sgt_Smartarse@reddit (OP)
100% for sure.
LanguidVirago@reddit
I have 3 bug out bags,
One has all the family stuff, passport photocopies, insurance details, birth certificates, education certificates, bank details ,some cash, this is my " the house is on fire" grab bag. There is a few small family heirlooms in there, watch, medals, etc.
Then there is the overnight bag, sports bag, towels, change of clothes, spare underwear, toothpaste, light jacket, shoes, toothbrush, soap, waterproof, thin blanket. Good for hospital, sleep overs, quick breaks, sleeping in the car.
And then there is thr full "I am sleeping in the woods for the next month" rucksack. Too heavy to carry for long, but it is easier to remove items depending on the circumstances than it is to add them.
Two medium holdalls and the rucksack, so carryable on trains and planes, or in the boot of a car hitchhiking.
smoothobfuscator@reddit
This is the way- y’all this is the answer to “where do I start” there is no 1 size fits all
saccharine_mycology@reddit
I've had to make one of these at the behest of my job before.
I had a SIM card that worked in Europe, a sim card for tanzania, a sim card for the US (i was living outside of the US) the metal pin used to change a sim card, an extra phone, cash from different countries (not all in the same place in the bag), extra clothes(nice and casual), basic toiletries, color copies of my documents (not all in the same spot), check book for a US bank account (US embassies have cashiers that require checks), spare phone charger, wall adapters, car adapter, power banks (2), hand sanitizer, latex gloves, napkins, spare glasses, and glasses wipes, wet wipes, snacks, and a couple pens for immigration paperwork. I also stored my valuable jewelry in this bag in case I ever needed to leave quickly.
You may want to also add copies of your vaccination records.
I used an inconspicuous, lightweight jansport backpack.
This is what they told me to pack: Go Bag Passport Emergency Contact Card Emergency cash Important docs Medical kit Clothes for 3 days Phone/charger Laptop/charger Flashlight Food/water for 3 days Visit this link for the Department of State’s complete list of items: https://www.state.gov/global-community-liaison-office/crisis-management/packing-a-go-bag-and-a-stay-bag/
Sgt_Smartarse@reddit (OP)
Cool! Thx!
saccharine_mycology@reddit
You're welcome!
Fenpunx@reddit
Proper tea bags.
Sgt_Smartarse@reddit (OP)
Gotta have that tea. Same. Lol
KittySkitters@reddit
But muh guns!
EffinBob@reddit
Nothing. I'm not leaving.
yamlCase@reddit
Me neither! I'm in Texas so if not here, then where?
bbc_4_qos_clt_nc@reddit
Nothing but a passport and access/log-ins to all my financial accounts.
TheArmadilloAmarillo@reddit
Highly depends on wht country you live in and what part of it. A European one with multiple borders is vastly different than living in Kansas City MO. In the US living in KCM is very different from Brownsville TX as well.
It might not recquire an airport at all, but conditions and distance matter. For me it might be an 8 hour drive and for you it might be 3 days.
randynumbergenerator@reddit
Yeah, not to mention differences in terms of citizenship (some people are dual citizens), immigration rules, health conditions... there's no single solution.
Starfleet_Auxiliary@reddit
Here is the thing.
If you're at the point where you are strongly considering this as a necessary prep:
It's already time to leave your country.
Stop planning your fantasy border crossing bag and start planning what country you want to expatriate yourself to and go there.
ButterscotchFront340@reddit
Bitcoin wallet and my laptop
BidensCoup-d-etat@reddit
Gold and silver sovereigns
MangoDouble3259@reddit
Given op's last point. Tbh, I would prob just bring burner device can connect internet and my cold wallets. Assuming his last point you can actually make it out of your country and society isent destroyed.
Assuming my native country freezes all my assets, I still have access large amounts of funds with crypto and we're kinda at point little growing pains but you can basically do any normal functions of cash/credit with crypto nowadays.
PrincessKatiKat@reddit
You are a refugee, so nothing but your papers. They would probably take most everything else at the border anyway; including your papers.
Honestly that “fleeing criminal” scenario means you don’t even want those papers. Better to cross into the system as a “ghost”refugee and let that sort itself out. Tell them the nationality you think they want to hear and say that officials in some country along the way took your papers. Expect to spend a significant amount of time in a holding area.
The number one prep for being a refugee is learning the language of one or more neighboring countries. This is what trips up most refugees.
Otherwise, being a refugee is not a “controlled event” like bugging out to the woods or something; you are ABSOLUTELY not in control. You are 100% at the mercy of the country you are going to. Knowing the language at least lets you advocate for yourself.
OptiYoshi@reddit
Honestly, probably a lot of people are going to hate on this. But seed phrases for blockchain wallet, (hashed with passphrase so security doesn't steal it).
Your not bugging out of a country with large amounts of cash. Assuming your going to a country that is still relatively stable or your fleeing a 3rd world country etc your going to need capital to restart your life.
Can store as much money as you want in Euro/USD/Yen etc stablecoins or in native tokens BTC/ETH. No border crossing can stop you.
Sgt_Smartarse@reddit (OP)
Instead of cash, i thought about 1gram, 2.5gram, 5gram, and 10gram bars of gold or silver. Everyone likes the precious shiny metals.
KrinkyDink2@reddit
Gold jewelry stands a much higher chance of not raising any flags or getting looted due to how common fake gold jewelry is. It’s also not terribly hard to have 5+oz of gold jewelry on with it looking too stand out . A bracelet can be 1-2 oz, a chain can be 2-3 without much trouble, rings etc.
OptiYoshi@reddit
Except they are going to be flagged at any entry/exit point and far more likely to be confiscated or stolen if your actually "fleeing" a failed country.
You should read stories about people trying to flee areas, most start with a lot almost none of it they keep due to looting etc.
feudalle@reddit
Who knows maybe he'll swallow them. A few people did that getting out of Europe right before WW2. Not a great option though.
OptiYoshi@reddit
Mostly gems not metal.
If you swallow metal its still going to be detected. You'll light up at any checkpoint
OptiYoshi@reddit
Except they are going to be flagged at any entry/exit point and far more likely to be confiscated or stolen if your actually "fleeing" a failed country.
You should read stories about people trying to flee areas, most start with a lot almost none of it they keep due to looting etc.
Reasonable_Long_1079@reddit
Adding that for a bug out phone look into the maritime phone services for people working on cargo ships etc. they have the most international support and are expected to go dark for long periods of time
icy_awareness_710@reddit
Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc.
Germainshalhope@reddit
Passport
Firefluffer@reddit
A pocket full of Kugerands.
ilreppans@reddit
~9 lbs/L/mph wheels that’ll triple my walking pace/range, at least on asphalt.
ImportantBad4948@reddit
Passport, copies of documents (physical and digital), cash money.
boobsaficionado@reddit
Money.
NoCodeBro@reddit
Nothing, you're a refugee at that point. If your expatriating that's a different story.
Turtletxn@reddit
Patience
EverVigilant1@reddit
That's an INCH bag.
Optimal_Law_4254@reddit
Not all INCH bags mean you’re leaving the country. Especially in a big one.
Sgt_Smartarse@reddit (OP)
A what now? Lol
What does that acronym stand for? The letters.
zeek609@reddit
I'm Never Coming Home
Sgt_Smartarse@reddit (OP)
Oh ok! That's the first time i've seen that acronym. Thx!
zeek609@reddit
It's good to differentiate between a BOB and an INCH bag, they serve very different purposes.
One is there's a house fire or a bomb threat and you need to spend a couple nights in a hotel. The other is Russia is invading and you're leaving the country.
Sgt_Smartarse@reddit (OP)
In the comic book the character who brought up the subject called it a Bug Out Bag, and the best i could figure of what the character would have in there given the context from what i read is: a really well forged passport and lots of cash. The character was a criminal living in bum fuck nowhere southeast asia in a lawless city run by gangs and mafias, the "BOG" they had was for in case they pissed off one of the gangs/mafias.
spleencheesemonkey@reddit
I’m Never Coming Home
IGetNakedAtParties@reddit
I contributed to the r/EuroPreppers start guide wiki which covers some of these considerations given the size of European countries.
Sgt_Smartarse@reddit (OP)
Does it cover info if the country the person was fleeing was the USA?
IGetNakedAtParties@reddit
Have a read, it's fairly broad to help personalise your plans and design gear around the plans. The USA definitely has other considerations but most should apply.
Sgt_Smartarse@reddit (OP)
Ok thx!
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