I originally commented in response to someone making a statement about "privileged" people destroying everything by going to distant locations to study local effects of climate change. What I said was:

"People can travel without being "privileged," lol. Often, it is a necessary thing. And in the case of OP, going to see for yourself is about the best action you can take. In fact, going to see for yourself was once the only action you could take. It's called exploring the world, and it is a much more worthy thing to do than sit around at home stuffing yourself with Big Macs and going to work at Raytheon to make "environmentally friendly" missiles.

Traveling somewhere to find the truth of a situation and to research the reality on the ground is a good thing. OP is "contributing" to our collective knowledge and preparation for collapse, and these days there can be no better contribution.

I'm actually planning a long-term backpacking trip through the Joshua Tree national forest later this fall, just to see some things for myself regarding changing climate effects, drought, and damage from fires. Having done this before several times, it is actually useful for my own research to get out and physically see the world, not just read about someone else's opinion on it.

It's also nice to disconnect from society and the internet for a few weeks, lol."

There was a reply that was then blocked from further replies, necessitating me to repost this entire thing in this format. So, to continue...

This is in response to the reply by u/xXXxRMxXXx, which they have blocked from replies.

You said:

"So if you can't beat them, join them in their endless escapades to see the world that could have been seen from a TV or computer screen? Almost no one flying around the planet is doing it for the greater good, or even a good reason. I would argue staying in your area most of your life, experiencing your own community, and limiting long distance travel is the more worthy thing to do."

My response:

You definitely need to touch some grass if you think seeing the outside world is better via an electronic screen, my friend.

Every child should get to see the redwoods. They should all get to walk in the surf of the ocean, and run their fingers through hot desert sands, and catch wild tundra snowflakes on their tongues. Towering mountain cliffs and wide open flat savanna grasslands and all the wonders of the natural world should be accessible to all.

You don't have to be ridiculous and fly there. People were traveling across the widest oceans with only the power of sail long before we discovered the burning of fossil fuels. Nomads in the desert would walk hundreds and thousands of miles. Humans have always traveled.

The problem is too many humans, trying to do everything too fast. And modern civilization with its requirement that one work and slave for a living is to blame for that. We don't have enough time, because all of our time is stolen by work.

Not me, though. I chose a different path, and wish I had chosen it sooner. And btw, when I go to Joshua tree, as in the past, it will be with a mountain bike and a backpack. That is the whole point.

We here in this sub even talk shit about people going out to the Caribbean on vacation, but I can and have sailed out there on a very old Island Packet 40 foot sailboat that didn't even have an iron genoa. You can travel without destroying the world. People just choose not to.

And again, it comes back to the main problem. Too many people.