MP5 on door mounts inside West German Police Mercedes-Benz W126 420 SEL
Posted by No_Routine_1195@reddit | ForgottenWeapons | View on Reddit | 70 comments
Basically, the title explains it all. As seen in the picture, the mount seems to have room for MP5k's, MP5's with fixed and collapsible stocks, straight or curved magazines.
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ARLDN@reddit
I guess the Germans don't carry arrestees in the rear seats of those cars.
I've also seen photos of a E90 BMW where the flip-down armrest/passthrough to the trunk was replaced with a rack for a single MP5. The MP5 was stored in the trunk, but when the rack was deployed it would shoot forward over where the rear armrest should be.
No_Routine_1195@reddit (OP)
Probably, those were an armed response/convoy vehicle. Cannot picture regular squad cars have guns sitting in the open.
Great_White_Sharky@reddit
Regular squad cars likely dont have MP5s in them in the first place either
setzlich@reddit
They do. The german states that adopted the MP5 in one place in time probably did put a MP5 in every car. The State police of Baden-Württemberg formerly had a MP5 in the Trunk of each Squad car, but These were replaced by MP7 in 2017 I think.
Loki_8888@reddit
Same as in Belgium. We carried a FAL or Mossberg 12 gauge until 2000. Then replaced by the MP5A3.
throwtowardaccount@reddit
FAL sounds like the least convenient law enforcement patrol weapon ever.
NoMoreMyFriend-S@reddit
Unless you patrol in Jo'burg...
Loki_8888@reddit
Yes, large, loud, overpowered and full auto. But it was a F.N. weapon, made in Belgium. We also had the UZI and later P90. But it had to do with Belgian politics. Buying a Glock while we had the High Power? The governement had tthousands of FAL´s in stock because the Belgian Army switched to FNC´s. But in the 80´s Antwerpen had terror attacks against the Jewish population and Left wing communist terror. So they gave us full power battle rifles to upgrade our 7,65 F.N. pistols and .38 special revolvers. The Rijkswacht ( paramilitary police) had 9 mm F.N. GP. Pistols and UZI´s. Then we had a unified police so there was a plethora of weapons in stock, FAL´s, Mossberg 500, UZI, H&K PSG and MP5´s , Steyr AUG´s, P90, pistols in 9mm, revolvers in .38 special, etc. We even had a Glock 18 we could shoot on the range. They got one when they ordered the Glock 19 and 26 for our department as a trail gun..... Now they also have .300 blackout suppressed AR´s. My time was 15 years ago. So haven´t shot the new ones.
Able_Newt2433@reddit
The things I’d do for the weapons you listed lol
That_Somewhere_4593@reddit
Where do we apply to be West European policemen?
LumpyTeacher6463@reddit
Also the typical weapon found with police in Nepal. Either an L1A1/ OFB 1A1, a Sterling, or a nondescript OFB pump shotgun.
TacTurtle@reddit
Makes sense if the country's defense plan includes police fighting invading infantry.
CermemyJlarkson@reddit
I believe west German police also used the G3
throwtowardaccount@reddit
At least for them, the possibility of an East German and Soviet incursion meant the G3 wasn't utterly inappropriate to hand out.
CermemyJlarkson@reddit
True
Zugezogen1150@reddit
Or are s classes.
cookiecutterhipster@reddit
Great post OP ,the only thing l have seen similar was a picture showing a female under cover op who worked with the SAS hit squads in Ireland,they had 9mm Browning High power pistols with extended magazines hidden/molded into in the front door cards of the under cover hatch backs they drove around in .
SnakeO1LER@reddit
How fucking gangster it would be drive a Beamer with a folding seat with an MP5 on it. Driving German, shootin German.
Able-Journalist8381@reddit
Not to be that guy, but a beamer is a BMW motorcycle, BIMMER is a BMW car.
AyeBraine@reddit
What's more, it's a Mercedes!
catonbuckfast@reddit
I think the flip down armrest/pass though rack is a standard European BMW police contract thing. I've seen something similar in the UK ARV BMWs
There was a TV programme here in the UK called cop car workshop and the mechanics on there said the firearm lockers were supplied by BMW
OldPuebloGunfighter@reddit
Anyone have a picture of this? I can't find any on google.
Stormhammer@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/BMW/comments/teov2t/polizei_e60s_had_a_mp5_mount_that_was_deployable/
OldPuebloGunfighter@reddit
Thank you!
Stormhammer@reddit
https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1708190
ARLDN@reddit
Yep, that's the one.
Roaddog113@reddit
These are not cruisers. Tactical response.
LegitimateCloud8739@reddit
And IMO this is basically a safe, even if you break the car, you will have to break the armrest safe. Old days were different, W126 was the late RAF times, so they need a easy access.
ARLDN@reddit
1940's: the Germans can't catch a break from the RAF
1970's: the Germans still can't catch a break from the RAF
LegitimateCloud8739@reddit
1980s RAF destroyed your W126, while 1940s destroyed the whole city.
https://i.auto-bild.de/ir_img/1/0/5/6/8/9/9/Wrack-von-Alfred-Herrhausen-560x373-94277c8cd63d6586.jpg
vs.
https://images.bild.de/5d39b5ec02f6b70001a83daa/0ce5191225637ced976f931b3b00b0ad,154aa5f9?w=992
sandalsofsafety@reddit
In theory, the guns are locked, the strap covers the trigger (if they even leave a round in the chamber), and whoever is in the back should be handcuffed. In practice though, that'd still be super sketch.
DukeOfBattleRifles@reddit
Germans try not to overcomplicate things: Impossible
MaleficentHotel7692@reddit
Wait i think i saw this one in movie devil's own
That_Somewhere_4593@reddit
Why can't I get this option at the Mercedes dealership?
LumpyTeacher6463@reddit
This shit goes hard.
Devious_Bastard@reddit
That’s an HK33 right? Magazine looks too big for MP5.
Kaszana999@reddit
Its the shadow messing with your perception, its a good old 9mm mp5
Hipointfanboy@reddit
That was my first thought too, but I think it just looks thick from the shadow. The one in the passenger door is marked MP5 A3. I find it interesting the one in the driver door lacks a hand guard
talon04@reddit
It's definitely an MP5 look at the ejection port way to small to be anything else.
joojoofuy@reddit
Obviously an mp5
raguyver@reddit
Safe, Full, or Semi-Autobahn
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
Is that a keyhole in the mount release thingo?
Positive_Election_17@reddit
Yes it is.
No_Routine_1195@reddit (OP)
Most likely.
DinoMastah@reddit
But can get easily be accessed to in an emergency situation?
No_Routine_1195@reddit (OP)
No idea, TBH. Even though it seems to need a key to be unlocked, it's still better, that having guns stored in the trunk. On top of that, most likely, officers probably carried a sidearm of sorts, with the SMGs as an emergency option.
Positive_Election_17@reddit
Yes it has a key that goes in the knurled fastener that is through the bracket. I’m not sure if you could have it unlocked and still closed or if opening the lock causes the fastener to fall free though. I imagine the former in which case you could access it super fast.
Positive_Election_17@reddit
Looks like it would easily fit a HK53, HK53A3, HK33 or even maybe a G3A4 or G3A3 too. It looks big enough.
nannerpuss74@reddit
this would raise a few stiffies at a car show, would be cool to find them stateside.
P1xelHunter78@reddit
That’s not the window switch…
CrimeanFish@reddit
Damn this is cool as hell.
AyeBraine@reddit
Super cool, thanks for the contribution! That's definitely a rare and specific "accessory", perfect for this sub.
ZAM1984@reddit
The HK MP5 is definitely not a forgotten weapon.
AlpacaPacker007@reddit
Yeah, the weapon itself isn't unusual or rare, it's the custom door panel mount for it that is interesting and relevant to the sub
ZAM1984@reddit
Then post in forgotten door mounts
usedtobeathrowaway94@reddit
Still interesting to see it like that, though
BeautifulStick5299@reddit
Polezei. Oster Ei
sweaty_sole@reddit
Lemme just pop these two pins real quick......
Roaddog113@reddit
Armoured too
Psychological-Toe985@reddit
Looks like an HK53 not an MP5
Kenji338@reddit
Few cars with such mounts were available in Poland early-mid 2000s. Fancy thing anyway.
dhcp138@reddit
it looks like the cavity is molded to also fit an AK
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
Maybe some sort of long arm but did the West Germans ever use AKs before reunification?
dhcp138@reddit
oh right my bad, I forgot it said west german. yeah maybe a g3 or some other HK? the stock area looks too big for the A2 MP5 stock
IlluminatedPickle@reddit
Maybe it's for keeping the stock extended while it's stored? It kind of has a hump there towards the back of it that would fit the shoulder pad.
Sgt_Stinger@reddit
This sounds the most likely to me!
AltoTheDutchie@reddit
looks to me like it was moulded to fit any mp-5 configuration
BRAVO_Eight@reddit
Some James Bond level Vide Check we got there. 007 .
polyplasticographics@reddit
Grüne Minna
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