Tulsi’s Awful Stance on Israel
Posted by Miserable-Bit5939@reddit | tulsi | View on Reddit | 48 comments
I’ve been a huge advocate of Tulsi and her foreign policy, but her stance on Israel aligns with most politicians.
It’s clear that she is a Zionist with her anti-BDS vote back in 2019. She has also gone on different news shows and podcasts recently advocating for the existence of Israel. Tulsi has criticized the college student protesters for being anti-semitic. There’s nothing anti-semitic about condemning a country for committing genocide. It’s not anti-semitic to say Israel is killing innocent civilians even though Hamas uses them as human shields. There are wrongs on both sides of the war. It’s not anti-semitic to say that Israel shouldn’t be blocking food and water from going to the Gaza Strip.
I will always like her stance against regime change wars in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. I love that she’s calling for a peaceful resolution to the war in Ukraine. However, she is wrong when it comes to Israel and U.S.-Israel relations.
LabStriking7756@reddit
Tulsi is a patriot not a Zionist.
Typingthingsout@reddit
Definitely a patriot for the apartheid state of Israel and the war criminal netanyahu!
LabStriking7756@reddit
I guess you think she is a Russian asset too? Hope you get the help you need mate.
Ibo-Naw@reddit
If she was a Patriot she wouldn't be begging to be Trump's VP.
jefe4959@reddit
Israel 1st!
Ubister@reddit
Zionist simply means beliebing in a nation for Jews, anti-zionists dont even believe in the state of Israel. Doubt thats a holdworthy position in modern politics. Israel is a Western ally in the middle east
Typingthingsout@reddit
tulsi claims to be anti-war, but is a cheerleader for the Israeli war machine. She's a fraud.
Ubister@reddit
Like I said Israel is a Western ally. Hamas is like ISIS, terrorist groups, killing innocent civilians and using them as human shields. It's pointless not to support Israel in their fight
TheOneWondering@reddit
All supplies into Gaza go through Hamas first. You really don’t expect Israel to resupply Hamas during a war with them do you?
Miserable-Bit5939@reddit (OP)
Israel is no better than Hamas if they’re willing to withhold food and water from Gazans
TheOneWondering@reddit
Ok. But you don’t expect Israel to resupply Hamas during a war with them do you?
Miserable-Bit5939@reddit (OP)
I think the better the question to ask if both sides are willing to stop unnecessary onslaught of innocent human lives
TheOneWondering@reddit
Hamas still has multiple American hostages and dozens of Israeli hostages. Biden even said there would be a ceasefire tomorrow if they released the hostages
Typingthingsout@reddit
Being anti-war means war is wrong and that America should spend money on American problems. Tulsi doesn't agree.
CJ4700@reddit
And Israel has already killed multiple American aide workers and hostages by dropping more 2,000 lb bombs than the US used in over a decade of combat in Iraq.
chaelacovi@reddit
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/18/nyregion/how-old-friends-of-israel-gave-14-million-to-help-the-palestinians.html
Exactly where did the 14 million go towards?
Latenighredditor@reddit
Dudes her islamaphobia is the most outward thing ever she is a huge supporter of Israel cause she hates muslims in the middle east.
If Israel were in a war with say Italy she would question why we are wasting our resources on Israel like she is with Ukraine
quantum0058d@reddit
agree
Latenighredditor@reddit
She's not a zionist in the traditional sense. She doesn't care for a Jewish ethnic state.
All she cares about is the fact that Muslims are getting killed in Gaza and she's all for killing and torturing Muslims
Ibo-Naw@reddit
lol at calling for a peaceful resolution of the Ukraine war. She's been pro Russia from day one.
Getoutofthekitchenn@reddit
Did she say their protests were anti-Semitic simply by virtue of being pro Palestine? Or their actions.. I think you'll find that there is a not so subtle degree of anti-Semitic rhetoric that has been present at many (if not most) pro-Palestine rallies.
Inflammatory statements and signs, harassing of Jewish students verbally and physically, etc. I don't think her assessment is really that unfounded.
jefe4959@reddit
You've got it backwards. Theyre completely nonviolent, with plenty of anti-zionists Jews present. All of the brutality, violence and harassment is coming from the Pro-Zionists mobs and the Police. Beating kids with clubs and pipes, grabbing old ladies by their hair and throwing them tocthw ground. Shooting fireworks into their tents, spraying them with skunk spray. Shouting I hope they get raped. Watch the videos of the Jews feeling "unsafe", its the most Karen nonsense ever. Watch the videos of the lone, clearly planted Zionists Provacateurs, fully masked, shouting "death to the Jews" being completely ridiculed and shunned by the crowds, yet Amplified in major media outlets as an effort to deligitimize the student protests.
Getoutofthekitchenn@reddit
"Source: trust me bro"
jefe4959@reddit
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/05/13/ucla-attackers-exposed/
Got that source for you "bro"
Getoutofthekitchenn@reddit
😂😂the GRAYZONE?
Lmao, not even clicking that. Find me a real source bro.
jefe4959@reddit
Hahaha! Laughing your ass off in the face of documented facts. So insulated in your own confirmation bias, void of intellectual curiosity, you keep your head in the buried sand. You choose to keep your eyes closed to reality at home, just as you do in Israel. What a waste of time engaging with such a nonserious, worthless but dumbass. Is BBC ok from your precious Google, do you need to hear it from Joe Rogan? "Bro"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68937775
Getoutofthekitchenn@reddit
Typical leftist mentality. "If you don't agree with my talking points you must pray to Ben Shapiro, Donald trump, (insert other conservative talking head)."
Weirdly I'm not a conservative. But I'm glad you seem to be losing sleep over this little exchange ❤️❤️
Getoutofthekitchenn@reddit
❤️❤️
jefe4959@reddit
Source my own eyeballs. Why dont you show me evidence of protesters being violent and harassing jews?
Getoutofthekitchenn@reddit
It is not my job to educate you on the matter, don't have to look far to find it. Google is a great resource, but try not looking only at left wing propaganda rags like CNN.
For the record, I think Israel has committed human rights violations for YEARS. I also think Hamas is a terrorist organization. But to pretend that the groupthink that happens on college campuses isn't spilling over into borderline Violent rhetoric and action is just being intentionally obtuse.
There is no "wrong or right" in the Israel Palestine conflict and anyone who thinks that this situation exists in a moral binary probably isn't educated enough on the matter to be speaking on it.
jefe4959@reddit
The fact that you think that Corporate Zionist CNN is a left wing rag is laugable and revealing how susceptible you are to partisan group think and completely unserious you are. Try the Grayzone or Mint Press News.
The group think on college campuses and around the world is directly attributed the images of the atrocities people are seeing in real time. The same thing happened in Vietnam. Thats why ever since, Press has only been allowed to be embedded within Military units. Now with Social Media, they're losing control of the narrative, hence the ban on Tictok.
Im sure by vilolent Anti-semitic you're referring to From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free. Oh my god so scary and violent for a brutally occupied oppressed people to want to have an emancipation cry for freedom.
Im very educated on the Israel Palestine conflict. Theres no justification for aparthied, ethnic cleansing, and forcing people off their land and their homes to establish an ethno-supremacists colonial state. Asymmetrical Warfare tactics aren't justified but are expected when you do that to people. Just like if theres a slave revolt and the slaves get out and murder their masters, sure they shouldn't have done that. But thats what happens when you enslave people. Our country was founded on the principle of Give me Liberty or Hive Me Death. Isreal was literally founded on terrorism by the Irgun and Stern Gangs. Menachem Begen was a self-describe terrorist, who became Prime Minister and founded the Likud Party, absorbing his terrorist gangs that carried out the Nahkba into the IDF and Mossad Israels biggest propoganda accomplishment is convincing the world what they're doing is complicated.
rt2987@reddit
Are there inflammatory statements/signs/actions?
I am out of the loop.
jefe4959@reddit
No. Except maybe a handful of obvious agent provacateurs amplified to deligitimize the masses.
CJ4700@reddit
^^this^^ Just take a look at the violent pro Israel protesters who attacked the camp at UCLA for 4 hours before police responded. There’s been more violence committed against the protesters than by them. It’s wild that being anti-war and wanting a ceasefire is so controversial with parts of the left today. God forgive we spend money on our own citizens before sending billions in bombs to places like Israel that brag about how wealthy and advanced they are.
Miserable-Bit5939@reddit (OP)
She does think they’re anti-semitic because she believes Jewish students don’t feel safe on campus. These Jewish students who pop up on Fox News saying they’re Zionists and feel unsagw walking through campus. They need to grow a spine. She has also said the student protesters are puppets of Hamas and want October 7 to happen thousand times over again
gravityraster@reddit
Exactly. If being a genocide supporting ethosupremacist is your thing, own it.
samfishx@reddit
Literally everything they claim is antisemitism… is not. It’s not antisemitism just because it rubs Israelis the wrong way.
jstohler@reddit
Garbage Person Has Garbage Opinion— more at 11.
nkn_19@reddit
Can you believe in the existence of Israel and not be a zionist?
Create two states. Move borders back to pre 1967 lines and end the police state occupation.
Is this zionist?
jefe4959@reddit
No its definitely not Zionist. However it would never be acceptable by Israel. Zionists only want to expand their borders and perpetuate police state occupation. To suggest otherwise means you're basically Hamas and anti-semitic.
nkn_19@reddit
Fortunately, this is not what all Israelis agtee with but it is what the Likud and right wing extremists that have taken over the country believe. They need to be removed for an retire movement towards peace and two states.
jefe4959@reddit
Id want to agree. The problem is that they have truly taken over the country completely. The sensible moderate population has no power, no structural organization, and the it's basically dangerous to oppose the war. In a recent pole, 98 percent completely support the genocidal war. And as much as 60% support blocking all aid, which is essentially genocidal forced starvation and famine. I think the whole thing needs to come down like Aparthied South Africa and a new republic with a new constitution for acutal democracy put in place before there can ever be peace. Because you cant simultaneously have a democracy and an ethnostate as a minority population. That is objectively contradictory and unfeasible without an Aparthied System. You cant have peace through Aparthied, ever. A vast majority of Israeli society has slid into the depraved belief that they can have peace through genocide and ethnic cleansing, whether they're willing to admit it or not. This a mass genocidal psychosis that's run rampant through all levels of Israeli society and government. This is why the world is standing up and saying, NO. But the aligned interests of Power Centers is allowing it to happen. That's why its so evil. Because its so calculated, mechanized, and carried out through civil and bureaucratic channels. Because, yes horrific and depraved mass death has happened around the world between waring tribes and struggles for power. But there's something extra wicked when its carried out with industrial precision by "civil" society.
Illin_Spree@reddit
According to our leaders, actually advocating for that (and not just saying it as cover for the ongoing ethnic cleansing) would be antisemitic because that would make a Jewish state for Jews impossible. It would mean a genocide of the settlers, because according to them it's impossible for Palestinians and Israelis to live in the same country.
Realistically, the 2 state solution is dead. The realistic and humane solution is One Democratic State for both peoples where the human rights for all are respected.
Hello_Destiny@reddit
Palestine has rejected a 2 state solution for ages
nkn_19@reddit
Per Shlomo Ben-Ami, the foreign relations minister who was there during Camp David Summit..
"Camp David was not the missed opportunity for the Palestinians, and if I were a Palestinian I would have rejected Camp David, as well"
this false statement that the Palestinians were given everything they wanted and rejected it continues. Let's stop it.
EmberTwist@reddit
As someone who voted for her in 2020, I say this in the gentlest way possible, Tulsi is no different from the rest. She has no issue changing her opinion or lying for money. Her entire career has been an act. It's time to move on.
jefe4959@reddit
100%
jefe4959@reddit
To me, its completely revealing how unserious and totally off the mark anyone still at this point, still shilling for Israel. Its revolting. Its so easy, obvious and uncomplicated, what is right and wrong.