Sometimes I imagine fandom used to be “tamer” back in the day, but then I read things like these. Writing personal mail somehow beats screaming “step on me” on Twitter 😂
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(this is Lucy’s reflection on The Reckoning from Weisbrot’s Guide to the Xenaverse - I am really enjoying the book for these kinda tidbits!)
f0rever-n1h1l1st@reddit
Fandom has always been as bad as it is now, toxicity just has a much more accessable and public forum to scream about it with direct lines to the people they're screaming at
ObnoxiousConsistent@reddit (OP)
on the one hand, i would rather not see it in public but on the other i hope that actors get less creepy personal mail now that dms are a thing (and blocking people is too!)
f0rever-n1h1l1st@reddit
I honestly think, and really hope, that people taking the time to write an email or send a letter are the people with genuine love for the actors. Not saying some psychos wouldn't do that, but social media is so much more of an immediate and validating outlet that requires almost no real effort that
SakuraTacos@reddit
I remember Lucy saying Renee/Gabrielle got lots of prison mail. And I guess Lucy/Xena got all the “Step on me, Mommy!” I could never write mail or @ Lucy and Renee like that, I’d die. But the more lecherous mail like that probably didn’t come from actual fans, or I’d hope not, I’d find it so weird. I’ll make all the jokes amongst us but taking it directly to them, well, I’d rather get a chakram to the head
I was mortified even when I learned Lucy and Renee know explicit Xena/Gab fics exist/have read some. There were a couple questions at different conventions where they started talking about fanfics and I almost got put off of reading them when I learned Renee and Lucy had seen some of the spicier ones haha Lucy was even joking about fics with like double-ended dildos in them and I was mortified like “Oh God no don’t plEEEAASE” Especially because I’d literally just read one like that lol!
ObnoxiousConsistent@reddit (OP)
hahaha well if there were fanfics about me like that, i’d get curious too😂. but no i feel you, i cringe inside at the thought of actually watching that discussion
SakuraTacos@reddit
Here’s a really funny moment from a convention with Lucy and Renee talking about fan fiction: https://youtu.be/_bVMDFYZ0Xo&t=1h24m51s
IseQween@reddit
I loved that book, along with The Complete Illustrated Companion to XWP, by K. Stoddard Hayes. You can also get great "tidbits" from old publications like the Chakram Newsletter (https://www.whenheartscollide.net/chakram-newsletter), Official Xena Magazines (https://www.xenagabrielle.com/xena-magazine) and of course Whoosh.org.
seventy912@reddit
I remember hearing Wonder Woman writers get this kind of stuff too — from men and women. Gail Simone (I think?) tweeted about getting letters saying they wanted more bondage, more corsets, more gagging, etc. Guessing Lynda Carter got the same back in the day.
Also, around the same time as Lucy, Kate Mulgrew had that dominatrix-Janeway fan fiction thrown into her trailer (it is online but I can’t remember what it was called anymore and I couldn’t be more upset over it), not sure if it was by the author or a reader but she claims to have read the entire thing.
Kinky nerds are loud and proud.