[Times column] Jeremy Clarkson: “You can’t cap bread prices if you have no bread” 🍞

Posted by FlipStig1@reddit | thegrandtour | View on Reddit | 41 comments

Jeremy Clarkson looked at the British government’s proposal to keep food prices in check. Their solution is to implement price controls. Before he criticized that approach, he noticed that politicians these days love to claim that they have “working class” credentials and therefore should be voted into office. Here’s a preview:

“If your opponent says he was born in a corridor, you’ve got to say you used to dream of living in a corridor. And when he says he used to have to drink tea from a rolled-up newspaper, you say you had to suck it from a damp cloth. And so on and so on until we end up where we are now; being governed by a bunch of people who are either half-wits, or pretending to be half-wits.”

(Yes, usual disclaimers apply.)

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sausyJeys@reddit

“You can’t cap bread prices if you have no bread.”

**Sometimes his philosophical genius, it’s generates gravity.**

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Guardsred70@reddit

He’s right. Any politician who says price caps are the way is either (a) stupid and doesn’t understand how things work or (b) patronizing and is appealing to voters who are too stupid to know how things work.

Price caps only work when the government allows companies to control everything that leads to “bread” so they have one CEO to haggle with. Convenient for them.

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ShoveTheUsername@reddit

Noone is advocating price caps.

The Govt is asking retailers to identify ways to discount key food types.

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5ma5her7@reddit

What if there is a huge international organization that integrates the market of every European nations, thus providing cheap farming products made in Eastern Europe can be bought in the UK without tariff?

Oh, I forgot the UK just voted to quit that a few years ago...

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OkAdvisor6680@reddit

You do realise Clarkson was pro Remain and liked the EU, right?

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ProfessionalSea6268@reddit

Jesus Christ you mob really can’t help yourself. FFS let it go. You all sound like morons screaming your anti-democracy bullshit everywhere you can regardless of whether it’s related or not.

Maybe Brexit would have worked maybe it wouldn’t. But politicians of all parties (and morons like you and your ilk) went out of their way to sabotage it at every possible opportunity to make it what we have now so you could gleefully claim it was a disaster when it was in actuality engineered that way, so we’ll never know.

Those who tried to overturn the democratic vote are the same ones trying to do the same at every other vote these days. You simply cannot accept any view that is different to your own. And we’re here because of 30 years of people being told everything is someone else’s fault, that the wrong ‘un is a victim, that they are a winner even when last, and never being told no.

If the vote (any vote) was legal and correctly undertaken, then stay the fuck out of it if you lost. Get over it and move on.

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Hardtack_dev@reddit

Here you go 🍼

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Fragrant_Associate43@reddit

Brexit was, and remains, a con job by Farage and Johnson on the British people.

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ProfessionalSea6268@reddit

The leave campaign was prevented from accessing government information to help their campaign. Official government statistics were only made available to the remain campaign. So it was unfair from the start. That is just one example of how remain tried to scupper the vote to begin with.

Both sides told only the truths they wanted you to hear and covered up anything they deemed negative. You would have to be remarkably naive to think either side only told the truth.

The fact remains that every single politician of every single party along with huge swathes of criminally undemocratic individuals have gone out of their way to cause it to fail. They had to make it fail because they simply couldn't accept that leave won the vote. Even if everything told was true, they blocked it, prolonged it, did shockingly bad deals claiming it's all they could get, and told lie after lie to make shortages and delays affecting the whole world or the whole of Europe look/sound like a result of Brexit when they simply were not.

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cheesekun@reddit

You've done what I've done with my comment....stumbled upon a bunch of very close minded people in the grand tour subreddit of all bloody places. They're all hanging out here with their irrational closed minded though processes - unable to discuss anything that remotely threatens their existing beliefs.

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makefascistfearagain@reddit

Lol, the leave campaign wasn't prevented from accessing government data remain had access to. They did however use government data to lie.

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ProfessionalSea6268@reddit

The years between then and now have taught everyone with half a brain the same fact. That you can’t argue with remainers. They twist facts, present only their one sided view, lie, cheat, and anything else they can to try and overturn the result and push their warped opinions.

I get it. You lost and don’t like it. I guess you’re a product of the “never say no” mentality in schools for the last 30 years.

But fuck me sideways grow up get over it. And stop bringing it up in random unrelated conversations. No one but you (the losers) gives a shit.

If you love the useless, money grabbing, unelected EU so much why don’t you move there instead of trying to impose it on everyone else. No, I thought not.

Good day to you, I won’t be replying again as you simply can’t fix stupid.

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Snowbold@reddit

You do realize that Clarkson was opposed to that, right? In the Grand Tour he would rail on it and make insinuations to how things will go economically from Brexit.

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Ok-Ordinary-6762@reddit

The govt haven't proposed a price cap for bread or anything else, it's a none story

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Noitche@reddit

Bullshit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y7qz806q3o

And to claim this is anything other than talks of a price cap is to spin yourself into a apologist dizzyness

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Electricbell20@reddit

Government ministers are pressing supermarkets on cutting costs for shoppers but will not force them to cap prices on essentials such as eggs, bread and milk.

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Noitche@reddit

Government is pressuring retailers to set a limit on the price they charge for groceries.

This is threatening price controls / caps and to claim otherwise is to do the governments communications work for them.

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Electricbell20@reddit

Referencing your source that says otherwise.

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Anderrrrr@reddit

Tonight on a right wing rich man opinions!

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Agreeable-Weather-89@reddit

I am not Clarkson simp, Clarksimp, if you will, I have said before and will say it again Clarksons planning attempt with the restaurant was deceptive and the council made the right call....

So with my motives established. Jeremy is right. Price caps rarely work. Britain has a hyper competitive food market and some of the cheapest food in Europe relative to income.

The only way excessive profits can be made in our market is with monopolies which should be broken up. Setting arbitrary price caps on goods will either do nothing because the cap is too high, or reduce quality in an effort to be profitable at the cap.

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makefascistfearagain@reddit

The point is that a policy that doesn't exist and wasn't actually considered is once again being given life by manipulative, lying right wingers.

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Amzer23@reddit

FYI, I didn't see anywhere that said it was official policy, just that it was something they'd considered or are considering.

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JoeSicko@reddit

I thought they had already shot this plan down.

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B_scuit@reddit

I dont typically agree with any of his political opinions but he's right here. Price caps are idiotic

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cheesekun@reddit

Civilisation has been mostly "right" for the last say 6000 years. "Left" is a recent thing (last 250 years). So don't be too quick to dismiss any merit in "right" ideas, they got us this far.

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Purple-Caterpillar-1@reddit

Worth remembering that democracy came in that timeframe too. It’s not hugely surprising when only the wealthy landowners had a voice they chose policies that suited themselves…

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theslootmary@reddit

That’s so historically ignorant it’s unreal.

For a start, we spent thousands of years on communities where we shared all the food and shelter we possibly could.

Secondly, if you’re going to describe everything after that and up until recently as right… how is that a good thing? We live in systems where countless millions starved to death and did nothing but work to survive, had absolutely no rights whatsoever… and then (according to do) left became a thing… and coincidentally in that time frame we had an Industrial Revolution, learnt to fly, when to the moon, invented the leisure industry, have rights, able to vote, access to healthcare…

The point you attempted to make is so wrong and so poorly thought out it’s genuinely unbelievable

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cheesekun@reddit

What makes you think that humans are special? What about the countless millions of other animals out there that suffer? What about the ants? Not sure what you expect to happen in a world full of chaos and entropy.

Correlation does not imply causation. Perhaps learning the foundations of science, reason and statistics might inform you better

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FLG_CFC@reddit

The main driving principle behind the right is apathy. Empathy for the left.

Clarkson isn't a very empathetic person. He wouldn't have slaughtered the cow that he called his pet if that was the case. He's ego driven and cares about things that benefit him. He's far from a psychopath, but he doesn't live his life for the betterment of all mankind. That shows through whenever he weighs in on a topic that he only has surface level knowledge of, which is just about all of them.

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Miserable_Wasabi101@reddit

Bruh Pepper was given back to the farm he originally bought her from.

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FLG_CFC@reddit

I missed that part of the episode, so I looked it up.

She was only spared from slaughter because the shop was closed, not because Jeremy is an empathetic person. He's a millionaire, not a struggling farmer. He could have kept her for a pet. Instead, he sold her off. There's no empathy in those actions, so my point still stands.

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Miserable_Wasabi101@reddit

I think small, close knit community sharing is very different to a free for all for shelter and resources.

Also, the industrial revolution was 100% free market and profit driven.

Just saying

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