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Omshadiddle@reddit

I’m wondering if they mean rental e-bikes that people use to go from a to b and then park and leave, as opposed to customers’ e-bikes.

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J-L33@reddit

That was my thought as well - that this was geared more toward people dropping off like Wombis or Veos or Limes near the rack indefinitely.

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J-L33@reddit

It’s kind of like zipcar but for bikes - you pay a subscription fee and get access.

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sparhawk817@reddit

It does sound distinctly Australian 🤣

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That was my thought as well. Its annoying to have to move Lime bikes/scooters so I can lock my bike. Stupid phrasing though. It should say no Bike Shares or no Lime Bikes (or whatever company is common in their area).

Also, how are they going to enforce it? They aren't going to cut people's locks.

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passwordstolen@reddit

Call and have it towed.. works for cars.

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BuildBreakFix@reddit

In the US It works for cars only with very specific signage stating state vehicle code, there are event rules regarding sign size, placement, font etc is most jurisdictions. This sign isn’t that.

Same or similar rules and laws apply to ticketing, booting, cutting locks etc.

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qerecoxazade@reddit

With respect, this response is incorrect. That's not how it works in the US.

This is an issue decided by states. Some states have zero laws, and leave it up to municipalities. Some states have explicit laws and do not allow municipalities to modify them. Some states have a baseline law and allow municipalities to add individual protections for property owners or vehicle owners, as they see fit.

Some municipalities require posted warnings. Some towing laws only apply to cars/motorcycles/trucks. Some municipalities allow you to report the business for a crime. Some require you to fund your own small claims court trial. Some make the person cutting the lock pay court fees. Some will charge YOU for locking your bike to somebody else's property without permission. Some require a professional to remove the bike. Some allow the owner to remove the bike by himself.

The only incorrect view of this sign is saying that US law determines its legality. It's covered by individual states and municipalities. Absolutely nothing about towing, cutting locks, signage, boots, or remedies for breaking these laws are universal.

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PollutionAway9782@reddit

that depends on your state. i can tow any car on my property.

i can not boot them however

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Mr3Truths@reddit

You sure about that?

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Comfortable-Fly5797@reddit

Do you really think a business is going to cut locks off bikes that probably belong to their customers? And if you have a decent lock you'd have plenty of warning before they managed to cut it anyways. And most likely this is a public rack in the public right of way.

I'm willing to bet the business got annoyed with people bringing their bikes in because the rack was full of Lime bikes.

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Mr3Truths@reddit

From the message seems like the rack belongs to them. If it were mind, with message posted, I'd cut them off.

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JasperJ@reddit

You’d be paying to replace the locks.

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qerecoxazade@reddit

That's not how it works in most places.

In most places, cutting locks to dispose of bikes on private property is legal. In the places it's not, you still have to take them to small claims court to get your lock reimbursed.

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PollutionAway9782@reddit

i would buy you a new lock after you pay the 500 for vandalizing my bike rack and making me repaint it.

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JasperJ@reddit

What? Who vandalized a bike rack?

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PollutionAway9782@reddit

when the lock was put on it was vandalized. the putting the lock itself was the crime. and of course the paint wa scuffed when the lock was removed.

people comiting small crimes should not complain when people fix them.

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JasperJ@reddit

… good luck with *that* argument in court.

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PollutionAway9782@reddit

its an easy win for the lockpart. geting money out of someone for scratched paint would be harder, depends on how offten you paint

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idiotsecant@reddit

This is crazy. All you have to do is go look at what bikes are still there at 2AM. If you're outside business hours you've got no particular entitlement to leave your bike there.

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Mr3Truths@reddit

Not if its attached to my property and the sign is posted. No different from costs incurred (Uber to the impound, tow fee, storage fee) when you park on a private lot with postings that you will be towed.

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JasperJ@reddit

You would be paying those tow fees, uber fees, etc if you had *this* sign posted as well.

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Mr3Truths@reddit

My sign would be clear and permanent. Bike rack is for paying customers only. Other bikes will be removed. Then I'll gladly see you in court.

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mps_1969@reddit

If it's their rack , Yes

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402915@reddit

They can ask Lime to make their block a no-park zone.

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ChrisTrotterCO@reddit

If it's lime yes your right they can.

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UmbraTitan@reddit

Either that or "stop locking up your electric motorcycles here."

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Mr3Truths@reddit

That's even more confusing

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FriendlyArachnid6000@reddit

Yeah well we are between invention and regulation on those like we were quadcopters. No there should not be 30 teenagers with nearly motorcycle tier performance vehicles doing mini mass rides in the street with no training or registration at all, but it will take a tragedy for people to understand.

The young adults with actual motorcycles are a much bigger issue though. Motorcycles and social media don't mix. Too many people show up and the guns come out. It's not cool to block up 1/4 artery of an entire city with 100+ motorcycles.

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professorbiohazard@reddit

Being into ebike, motorcycles and quadcopters I feel your take on quadcopters is hilariously uninformed. If your referring to DJI camera drones then the wide-angle view makes "spying" on people near impossible because the person is mostly just a spec on the screen. If your referring to fpv quadcopters then it's even sillier. Their so noisy that nobody is using them to spy on people. And most pilots are doing freestyle skateboard style tricks and are mostly trying to find places to fly without people in them

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FriendlyArachnid6000@reddit

Spy or just annoy, you have to register with the FAA and the police can tell you to fuck off and not be a nuisance in public.

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PollutionAway9782@reddit

the police can not just tell you to fuck off its a fed offence for them to do so( you can sue for it not like a proscuter is going to help)

also depends on the weight of the drone

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FriendlyArachnid6000@reddit

Most consumer drones do not qualify.

FAA rules make it simple: you can only fly over people if your drone fits Category 1–4 requirements, which generally means it’s either under 0.55 lb, has protected blades, or is certified to limit injury; all drones that weigh over 0.55 lb must be registered with the FAA, and if your drone doesn’t meet the safety categories, flying over people is prohibited — and police can order you to stop or leave if your operation is unsafe or illegal.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/public_safety_gov?utm_source=copilot.com

People should be able to enjoy nature without a bunch of assholes buzzing around on electric shit

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PollutionAway9782@reddit

they can call the faa if they belive its a saftey regulation. but they cant stop you or make you stop. the faa is not giving no local cop power

if you dont belive me read the link you provided.

also

Drone pilots operating under Part 107 may fly at night, over people and moving vehicles without a waiver as long as they meet the requirements defined in the rule. Airspace authorizations are still required for night operations in controlled airspace under 400 feet.

its easy to get the 107 took me a week of watching youtube videos

when i got my drone most were over the weight limit

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LSpliff@reddit

How would they know if the ebike was actually rented by customer who rode to the brewery vs. just left there? Chalk the tires? 😀

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zgrad2@reddit

Yes, we have these signs at most businesses in Brisbane, due to the amount of rental Lime ebikes being locked up, so it is most likely the same reason.

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SmokeyCatDesigns@reddit

Almost certainly. I have seen far too many of those app rental bikes in bike racks.

I’ve had to free my bike trapped by the app rentals at bike racks, and it is very hard because of the way they lock the wheels and also sometimes beep obnoxiously when moved once they are no longer active.

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pdutch@reddit

If that's what they meant, it wouldn't have been very hard to add that, but who knows.

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Mysterious-Intern172@reddit

That is gay.

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Ok-Awareness3794@reddit

Customers only, ebike customers ok

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mdubdotcom@reddit

Maybe they mean door dashers

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Gawehay@reddit

Hope not. That'd be pretty dumb

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unseenmover@reddit

Id say f that and park my ebike there

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ahotdogcasing@reddit

OP could have just like...asked someone at the brewery...

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Proof_Machine5290@reddit

I think it's just a "Reserved for Customers Only" statement. Probably tired of moving rented ebikes away from their Business. I think those rent-a-ebike companies are going out of business...lol

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Tabbbinski@reddit

Why don't you just pop in and ask them? Grab a few off-sales, put them on the counter and ask your question. If they are anti-ebike just walk out, letting them know they lost business. If it's aimed at share bikes, tell them they should clarify the notice and enjoy the beer.

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Worldly_Abalone6341@reddit

It means no locking unless you buy a beer

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Fasciadepedra@reddit

Probably they only want customers private owned bikes to park and not the bikes of some rental system flooding the parking, and these probably happen to be ebikes, more than 80% of the ebikes that people park there.

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tokin247@reddit

What's the name of the brewery?

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Dangerous-City6856@reddit

This might sound wild, but did you go inside and ask?

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muchabon@reddit

It's absurd that your comment doesn't have the most up votes here

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Zym1225@reddit

It means they don’t want your money.

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Zippa7@reddit

The majority of people dont know the difference between an electric dirtbike and electric bicycle. Like a scooter vs a moped. If it has pedals to move the bike its an ebike or motorized pedicycle aka moped. If it doesn't have pedals to move it is a scooter or motorbike.

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wlexxx2@reddit

maybe the rack is too small or weak for ebikes

also they want only customers, to use it

not well written, is what it is

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EquivalentChemist771@reddit

It means dont lo k up your E-Bike but customers can lock up their Bikes or Bicycles not their eybikes cause they're not allowed

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ArmchairPancakeChef@reddit

It's a very poorly reasoned request and makes no sense. So what if one of their customers has a ebike?

Idiots.

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RollingMeteors@reddit

>What does this mean?

¡Fuck if I know!

¡No hablo Ingles!

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RichTrifle1785@reddit

THE BIKE RACK IS FOR CUSTOMERS WHO NEED TO LOCK UP THEIR BIKES ONLY!!!

Who says e-cyclists don’t need to lock up their bikes?

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Alkanna@reddit

Who would possibly want to steal one ? /s

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lilpumpfanaccount@reddit

They might be talking about the new e-bikes Lime has, it’s become a pretty annoying problem in downtown where the ppl that charge will drop them off right at the bike rack for reason. I remember when the scooters first came out they would park them at the bike rack lmao

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Winter_Basis_6653@reddit

customer only parking

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ThelIIusion0fSeIf@reddit

Yeah my community has become very hostile towards ebikes and it's almost exclusively because of teenagers riding electric dirt bikes everywhere they shouldn't be.

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Spiritual_Wafer_2597@reddit

but this is just them locking them up in a bike rack?

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ThelIIusion0fSeIf@reddit

Yeah I know, that's exactly the point I'm illustrating. Generally when a niche hobby (like ebikes) comes up it only takes a small percentage of those acting irresponsibly to turn most people against the concept in general. I would say there are a lot of older adults in affluent areas especially who reflexively have a negative reaction to anything ebike related without any nuance.

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mickeyaaaa@reddit

Probably due to fire risk...

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Many_Translator1720@reddit

Ask them.

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Bueler77@reddit

I'm wondering if the manager is just retarded

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RoundSyrup4424@reddit

It means find a different brewery to drink at 🍺

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nowaybrose@reddit

I think it means city bikes and lime bikes etc. I’m actually keen to go to this kind of place that values me using my personal bike, I’d just talk to owners about getting the wording right.

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JolyonWagg99@reddit

Sounds like this brewery is run by hipster fixie doofuses. Drink elsewhere! 😅

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Legitimate_Fennel_54@reddit

E bikes are the lamest motorcycles of all time

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Stonkpilot@reddit

Show me one that is not... Go to a fucking bar and stop drinking fruity pebbles.

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KiwiJay83@reddit

Someone is projecting….

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RileyTrodd@reddit

This guys out here gate keeping poisoning yourself lmao

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burieddeepbetween@reddit

This is the answer. Vote with your wallet.

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thirtynation@reddit

Nah just ignore it and go about your business.

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mayorlittlefinger@reddit

But, politely, let them know this is why you left

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burieddeepbetween@reddit

I don't care about them making more money in the future. Places to drink are a dime a dozen.

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This_Instruction_206@reddit

I think they probably meant hire bikes, . like Lime, and not individual people's e-bikes. It's poorly phrased, but where it says about customers needing to be able to lock up their bikes, that to me is a clue they meant hire bikes because personal e-bikes need locks, Lime et el doesn't.

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Xethos@reddit

Or they are covering their asses so people don’t blame the pub for operating a motor vehicle while under the influence of alcohol they sold them.

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Deathtotyrantsn2019@reddit

Sounds like it was written by a DEI hire.

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potificate@reddit

Did you not think to ask?

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SuckEmOff@reddit

It means don’t leave rentals there like Lime bikes

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Mr3Truths@reddit

I can see if others with ebikes are using the bike rack as their daily parking/storage. But what if the person with the ebike is a customer?

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Ohio_guy65@reddit

Could just be a poorly worded notice. They might mean commercial e-bikes like others have stated. Could also be confusion on what an E-bike is.

My city has a lot of people riding things they call E-bikes but aren't. They're basically electric off road motorcycles, some have pedals some don't. They have a top powered speed of at least 40 mph, fat off road tires, and dirt style motorcycle frames. These things aren't even close to class 1, 2 or 3 E-bikes. Most people don't know the difference between an E-bike, an electric motorcycle, and whatever some of these other things are, so they call them all E-bikes.

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kashuntr188@reddit

it means don't park your ebike there. they are also saying you don't need to lock up your bike.

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Rawlus@reddit

the right thing to do is to ask the brewery.

my take is that the rack is for customer owned bikes and not lime, or other rental transit e-bikes and scooters you see mostly just left scattered around the streets and sidewalks of major cities.

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damixmaster@reddit

But I need to lock up my e-bike

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F1890@reddit

The way I read this, I’m guessing they might have a problem with people that are not customers parking e-bikes there and leaving them for long periods of time. Maybe people that live in nearby apartments and don’t want to carry a heavy ebike upstairs or something?

Also, is there an electrical outlet near the rack? I also wonder if they e had issues with people who are but customers leVing bikes there to charge?

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Reataz@reddit

Rack is for the shopping customer population and not employees, residents, or other random people.

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wdaloz@reddit

But like, get more bike racks then, those are your customers

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LilAbeSimpson@reddit

Indoors or normal outside bike rack?

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iHeartQt@reddit (OP)

Outside normal bike rack! But it might also be used by an apartment building that borders it? I can’t tell

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LilAbeSimpson@reddit

If it’s right next to a building structure that is your answer.

Nobody wants to risk their home/ business accidentally catching fire from shitty battery.

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fluffycritter@reddit

Don't the shitty batteries only catch fire if they're left plugged in though?

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alex_c2616@reddit

Nope, not at all.

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fluffycritter@reddit

Good to know! thanks.

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IM_OK_AMA@reddit

The kind of person who puts up this confusing sign probably isn't too hung up on the details.

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LilAbeSimpson@reddit

Do a quick google video search for E-bike fire. No charging required.

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poedraco@reddit

Written by someone who only has a overly priced acoustic bike and wears spandex

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Wisco_Nick@reddit

Maybe he thinks I take my e-bike key with me when I park 🤷🏼‍♂️🤣

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Impossible_Rule_3869@reddit

It means the person was drunk when they typed it.

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kancecurio@reddit

Maybe the E in this case is for Employees. No Employee Bikes? 🤷🏽‍♂️

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Gobias_Industries@reddit

It's hilarious how everybody is freaking out like they're some sort of ebike haters when there are far far more likely scenarios.

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Coasterfreak72@reddit

My bet is they are trying to free to space from being taken by the larger cargo e-bikes that already have a way to lock them to themselves. Otherwise they tend (in my experience) to take up the space of 2 if not three regular non-e-bikes.

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chuckwolf@reddit

They do realize that e-bikes are bicycles and customers do own them, don't they?

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Khalil_Mamoon@reddit

Their insurer probably requires it regardless of whether the business has a stance either way

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Known-Math-4713@reddit

It’s pretty clear, he doesn’t want e-bike. That’s completely understandable, it’s potentially just extra problems. They get stolen more often than regular bikes, so they attract thieves, but more importantly, they can be a fire hazard. With all the cheap, low-quality Chinese batteries out there, I totally understand his point of view.

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Melburnian@reddit

I'm quite sure they mean either e-motorbikes or the Lime type rentals, not regular pedal powered e-bicycles.

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M5K64@reddit

"Ebikes are not bikes" that is what it says.

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Barnbutcher@reddit

I’m sure someone else has already said this, but I like hearing myself type. I’ve seen signs like that in Atlanta, and they were referring to the little rental scooter/bikes that are parked all over town . You can rent one from any of the racks around town and just leave them parked wherever you end up. I’ve seen people park their personal e-bikes in the racks with these signs, so I image personal privately owned bikes are ok, as long as they aren’t part of a rental fleet.

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