Thinking of reporting manager to HR but not entirely sure if that is the correct decision?
Posted by AlonePumpkin1945@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 14 comments
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Globellai@reddit
Going to HR will make things more formal. It may force your manager to provide more support but it will add more strain to the relationship, which already sounds troubled.
When fighting the company it is useful to have someone in the company fighting for you. Perhaps talk to your second line manager. They will have an interest in making sure you are productive and may have a more supportive style. You might not be the first to struggle with your manager. They will also know if there's projects that need people under a different first line manager and can move you there. Talk to your previous manager. It sounds like they like you, will offer some advice anyway, and might be able to offer you a role back in your old department.
It helps to know if you want to fight to keep your current role or if the move was a mistake and you want to make another big change. Going back to your old role may be an option.
And if it's a big company there could be an employee representation group (called a "works council" in the EU days). Contact them, they will offer good advice and know all the tricks for dealing with HR.
I'd do as many of the above as I'd feel comfortable with before pushing the HR button. Be aware that if your relationship with the company is that bad, chances are you'll want to leave soon anyway. There is some inner peace in knowing every crappy meeting doesn't matter because it's only a stopgap until you find your next job. Good luck.
AlonePumpkin1945@reddit (OP)
Tbh - I’m concerned about the next person coming in and going through
To respond to a few things here: 1) having someone fighting for me: the manager who told me the results of my performance review admitted that the feedback was unfair 2) I’m not the only one that has had issues with this individual. The previous person in my post left because of her. But I think she made a bigger deal out of things than what I did. 3) This individual seems to have a bit of a reputation for not being liked. Whenever I’ve heard people discussing them / it’s very rarely on the positive
Globellai@reddit
re 4: it seems I misunderstood you comment about "roll off" the role. I thought, being a consulting role, you were moving to a new client project in the same job. If you have already escaped this manager that's great.
Helping others in the same situation is tricky. You no longer have the problem so there's no solution HR can offer you. Maybe make it known to others how you feel and that you'd be willing to tell HR your story as a witness if they went to HR. That way others can establish a pattern of behaviour from the manager and HR won't interpret it as just "these two people don't get on".
Employee reps, if you have them, would be really useful here. They often have good knowledge how HR processes work and can advise.
_Hoping_For_Better_@reddit
I would raise a complaint, but depending on that managers history and relationship with HR it might not have any effect or just help the next person. There is probably more going on, maybe their preferred hire didn't get the job, maybe there is something about you he doesn't like, which might be cause for complaint in itself. But at the very least ignoring you completely and zero feedback is worthy of complaint and poor performance themselves.
YuccaYucca@reddit
Time to go on a job hunt.
Reporting them to HR won’t do anything besides tarnish your reputation further.
What is it that you can’t do?
RainbowPenguin1000@reddit
I completely understand you feel like you’ve beeen treated badly because you have. It’s a managers job to support their staff and give them feedback and coaching/mentoring etc..
However, what do you expect HR to do? They will tell your manager that they need to provide more feedback when required and that’s probably it.
By all means you can report it but don’t expect anything to suddenly drastically change. You will still be in the position you are now.
You said you have a list of areas you do and don’t know how to do - use those areas you don’t know to setup your own training or directly say to your manager “who can help me learn X” to try and push things forward yourself.
ceehred@reddit
Raise it with HR for sure. They'll be concerned enough about the potential of company liabilities and may help you more than your manager currently seems to be doing.
budgrummur@reddit
It sounds like you're not performing as expected at a senior level and your management is ok with you dropping off, rather than risking unfair dismissal. Going to HR is all you can do, if being ignored by your line management, but expect little to improve. Bad management will not improve regardless of what work you're given, better look for a different job.
WastelandOfConfusion@reddit
Just pull back on your performance until they let you go. Keep the cheap money.
RelationshipLife6739@reddit
Bad advice with a job market like this.
WastelandOfConfusion@reddit
I don’t think so. If your employer is unable to treat you with respect then you are fully entitled to quietly quit whilst bagging as much cash as possible. Screw their goals, screw their targets.
RelationshipLife6739@reddit
Only if they have something lined up though, which is way harder said than done these days. Especially if you don’t know when they’re gonna offload them.
Vast-Slip-@reddit
Entirely the correct decision to report this. It's started off as poor management and then clearly got back to the manager, from the senior, who has become vindictive.
It sounds like something on the way to constructive dismissal. You should collate all your requests for support and feedback as part of your complaint. Also compile your managers responses or lack thereof.
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