Which CPU to get?
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So I’m currently working on my first PC build, and I initially decided to go with a 9800X3D, but then I realised that it’s not nearly as simple as that. Sure I could get this and not have any issues, but I have tons of other options.
The issue is that there are A TON of conflicting opinions that I see online:
- AMD always, don’t consider intel
- AMD for gaming, intel for productivity
- If you can afford it, always go for an X3D
- Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus is a goated CPU for both gaming and productivity
- X3Ds are also good for productivity, they will do any workload well, just not as well as non X3Ds
- X3Ds are not good for productivity, they sacrifice everything else for cache, everything else has more cores and is many times better in productivity.
- CPU matters for 1440p
- CPU doesn’t matter a lot for 1440p, the GPU is the main bottleneck.
I have seen all of these many times when looking online, so it does get quite confusing. The benchmarks are also quite confusing as they do vary depending on situation and game, and I can’t seem to find 1440p CPU benchmarks.
In my budget, considering my other components choices (most importantly for this post, I’m 90% sure I’m getting a 9070XT) and the budget I left for peripherals (including a 1440p 120-240Hz monitor, I haven’t done nearly as much research here yet compared to the actual build but I have left a good amount of money aside here), a 9800X3D is pretty much at the top end of my budget, and is technically doable but not desirable as they are €100 more expensive than a 7800X3D in my region.
For reference, here are the CPU prices for the options I’m considering in my region, though they do change:
- 7800X3D: €284.87
- 9800X3D: €388.00
- 9900X: €332.60
- Core Ultra 7 265K: €280.70
- Core Ultra 7 270K Plus: €319.15
Please note that I don’t live in the US, so a microcenter deal is impossible. Would have loved to have one nearby but afaik they’re all US exclusive.
Like I already mentioned, I’m getting a 9070XT most likely and a new 1440p monitor. I will definitely be gaming and programming and doing uni work (comp sci degree), but I also need it to be able to handle and productivity workloads. I’m not talking about ultra optimised professional workloads, but I will be trying to learn video editing, blender, adobe apps etc.
It would help a ton if anyone could recommend any of these CPUs, or an alternative that I didn’t list. Thanks.
mgwair11@reddit
Top comment is best advice I think in terms of your purchase decision. I won’t deviate from that recommendation but I’ll add some explanation for how different factors in a build can affect how much a particular loss in features with the cpu is felt.
The X3D advantage is mainly felt when you have a ram kit that doesn’t run at the fastest speed (talking sub 6000mhz on am5/ddr5 speed and CL latency that is above CL30). X3D chips help mask slower ram. The extra L3 cache helps certain games not need access to the ram as frequently as the GPU and cpu coordinate to draw frames. Not needing to talk with ram as much means less delays. Tied to this means better 1% low fps. Avg fps between a non-x3d chip and its equivalent chip with x3d won’t differ much. But 1% lows will. Pretty important if you are playing any competitive games as that fluidly not only matters for the gameplay itself, those games are also the type that actually run at high enough refresh rates where you could run into cpu bottlenecks instead of gpu bottlenecks. That said, your choice both in 1440p resolution and a strong GPU that is capable of 4k gaming even helps you avoid cpu bottlenecks in most all games outside of a few esports titles and some outdated or poorly optimized games whose code would give you cpu bottlenecks regardless of your hardware.
So overall, I would not have X3D as a hard requirement for you to get. Though if you “cheaped out” on ram (putting in quotations bc who can afford to not cheap out on ram in 2026?), and have a slower / more latent kit, then I’d make X3D a higher priority again.
But more crucially, I think you may want more cores given your focus as a comp sci major. As you progress in your studies, there is a very good chance that you find out that you are far to restricted with just 8 cores. It could develop into a big regret and subsequent upgrade occurring sooner than would otherwise be necessary. Compiling code can be expensive. Maybe you want to use virtual machines to test out software. You can make the 8 cores work of course. You will be okay. But having even just an additional 4 could be very much worth it.
Since the difference in price between AMD 9000 series and 7000 series is seemingly doing you no favors in your market, I’d maybe look into seeing what a 7900x (non 3D) would cost assuming you have a ram kit that is decent. If ram is maybe a tad slow by AM5 standards then look at the 7900X3D. See if it is more expensive than a 9800X3D. The results may surprise you. By both going back a generation AND going with a 12 core processor, which is the least desirable model by core count simply because its use case applies to the least number of customers in comparison to 8 and 16 core options (and not because having the extra 4 cores is actually bad), you could find yourself with a better deal for a better cpu that better fits your particular needs—current and future.
Oh, one last thing: I’m not gonna say don’t ever buy Intel but I will just say you won’t see me ever recommending an Intel cpu for the foreseeable future and I haven’t for years on end at this point. First it was terrible performance for the price. But now ever since the issues seem with their 13th and 14th gen chips literally degrading with no fix available…yeah. I just can’t. I could say that any CPU you buy that is modern (aka released within the last 4-5 years) x86 cpu would be good enough. But that just isn’t the case thanks to Intel’s recent blunders. Wish it was different, believe me.
I guess I gave you more opinionated info than I originally set out to provide with this comment lol. Oh well. Hope it’s more helpful than burdensome to read through. Good luck with your PC, and happy building!
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Sadly, it seems that any X3D with a higher core count than 8 is far too expensive, at the lowest more than €150 than a 9800X3D. Guess I have to choose between core count with a non X3D and maximum gaming performance with an X3D
mgwair11@reddit
Thing is 95% of people playing videogames on a PC see next to no difference in 95% of games they play when going between x3d and no x3d. There is a reason why all cpu benchmarks are run at 1080p with a 5090 with only certain cpu demanding games. It’s because that’s what it takes to actually begin to see differences in performance in games. For most actual PCs in real life—the cpu choice, even across multiple generations of releases—does not matter. The GPU and your monitor ends up mattering way more.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
So do you think the higher core count of an alternative (7 270K Plus, 9900X, 9900X3D etc) would more useful than maximum gaming performance?
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Tysm! I’ll have to check out the prices of other CPUs
SevenDeMagnus@reddit
Hi, the proper and wisest way to build anything (not just with computer) is to first identify what is that one thing you're building things around for?
In this case what is that one main game, pick just one?
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
I’m going to be playing a range of games, AAA like cyberpunk, Indie (not that I need a powerful PC ofc), and Shooter like fortnite, CS etc
SevenDeMagnus@reddit
Cyberpunk is a GPU bound game, no need for top 9800X3D which is US$150 more expensive the Core Ultra since your card is not the top too, not the 5090 . my PC build is an Intel Nvidia with Noctua fans (Intel LGA1700 based, a generation older than the amazing Intel Core Ultra), though I have the more amazing workstation class and gaming class laptop (first of its kind) full performance unplugged the more amazing M5 Max 40 core GPU fast and enjoyable enough for Cyberpunk macOS port at 1200p (2k) resolution.
The Core Ultra will balance well with AMD's fastest the 9700 XT for Cyberpunk on 1440p native gaming, no FSR, no frame gen. without ray tracing or with limited ray tracing at medium to high preset..
kmkm2op@reddit
OP also mentioned competitive shooters so really, the choice is realistically between the 7800x3d and the 270k plus and whether OP plans to take the gaming or the productivity more seriously. But if OP was serious about blender, it would be better to go for an rtx 5070, as the 9070xt in blender is slightly worse than a 5060.
This prioritisation of amd vs nvidia for better gaming value vs CUDA already shifts my decision making towards the 7800x3d. Plus is OP becomes serious in a few years time, a zen 7 upgrade might be possible depending on whether ddr6 is ready or not as if it's still ddr5 they will stick to am5.
BilleyBong@reddit
9800x3d is simply the best gaming CPU and still does well in productivity. You could save money and get the Intel if you want to put your budget elsewhere.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Would a 7800X3D be enough? It doesn’t seem to be that far off from the 9800X3D, or at that price is the intel just better?
aragorn18@reddit
The 7800X3D is only slightly slower than the 9800X3D in gaming, but significantly slower in productivity.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Yeah thats the mean reason why I’m hesitant towards the 7800X3D
aragorn18@reddit
At a certain point, you have to decide what you care more about. Productivity, or gaming and future upgradeability?
Makerudji@reddit
Yep, if he wants best of both, expensive 9950x3d is the choice
BilleyBong@reddit
You're right, the 7800x3d edges out the Intel counterpart in gaming, especially in same games that heavily favor the vcache. So unless you're a full time editor then go with the amd chip.
SevenDeMagnus@reddit
But Cyberpunk is GPU bound, 9800X3D is 150 dollars more which you can add to buy the 5070 Ti, or 5080 perhaps used but in good condition.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Sadly, the 5070ti is €250 more than the 9070XT (cheapest of both I could find)
SevenDeMagnus@reddit
even a used 5070 Ti so you can play with RT on Cyberpunk and x5 frame gen
That game is optimized for Nvidia
No_Spare1827@reddit
its true the 270k plus is a monster at productivity and plenty capable in gaming but its also true the 9800x3d is one of the best at gaming and decent at productivity. If u are mostly gaming then AMD CPU preferably an X3d, if video editing, blender, adobe apps and all that are more important than sure 270k. Either way u will have a great PC
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Thanks!
Objective-Tap9317@reddit
Adding to this if you care about being able to upgrade in the future AMD is always better at this thanks to the AM5/AM4 platformer they created, on intel you have to change your motherboard way more.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Yeah I am probably going to upgrade, Intel would be a lot more of an attractive option if they had the same upgradability potential😞
alienangel2@reddit
Just to make sure the decision gets too easy (I am stuck making a similar choice), motherboard upgradeability matters less and less if you are buying a top end cpu. If you're buying AM5 now for a 9800x3D, but the time there is another meaning AM5 CPU worth upgrading to, even if it's still on the AM5 platform there will be other motherboard feature advancements (eg support for faster ram, higher bandwidth PCIe, better SSD or network standards) that you may want to change out to a non-AM5 motherboard anyway.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Thanks!
bartiz@reddit
How about 9700X? Could be inexpensive way of solving your gaming and productivity need. Cheaper than X3Ds and for 1440p should be enough. You could always upgrade year or two later if for any reason you'd feel like it's not enough.
Just a thought.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Its about €300
bartiz@reddit
Well, looks like it's valued way more in your area, but on the other hand, I've paid over £200, so not that far away.
I guess it's also pretty close to the 7800X3D price.
Symphonic7@reddit
I understand wanting to get the most for your money, but you are definitely making it a bit too complicated on yourself. 9800x3D will do everything you need and will last you for a long time. AM5 is great because they're getting at least 1 more CPU generation so in the future you can drop in an upgrade.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I guess ur right
Symphonic7@reddit
Regardless of what you get, you won't be disappointed with any of those CPU choices.
Turbulent_Insect_431@reddit
where's the 7800x3d 285 in EU?
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
I believe it’s on deal
Turbulent_Insect_431@reddit
mind telling me where though? buddy is grabbing a 7500x3d but 7800x3d at that price would be nice, i went through the pc part picker for most countries and couldn't find it
Powerful-Ad2869@reddit
Its mostly AAA title gamers who keep spreading this misconception
just because you play a CPU Bound game in 4K doesnt mean the CPU will become less important. The CPU still matters in 4K as much as it did in 1080p on a CPU BOUND GAME, but now that it’s 4K, *It also becomes GPU Heavy*
Bottleneck depends on the games you play mostly.
Symphonic7@reddit
I've heard some wild shit where people say "oh my CPU is maxing out when I play this game, what should I do" and people recommend them to get a 4k monitor and they wont have that issue anymore. Its like saying oh one of my legs is injured so its hard to run fast, and recommending you injure the other leg so they're even.
No-Ostrich-8621@reddit
Whst about a used 9950x3d? :)
SevenDeMagnus@reddit
:-)Yeah, buy them all used from sellers with good ratings and will give you a few days of personal warranty to test. You may get (all basic) a 9800X3D with a 5090 for the same budget as brand new.
u/ThatRedditBotGuy
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Can’t imagine those would be cheap, even used. I would go with this option for sure if my budget would allow it tho
IANVS@reddit
9800X3D if AMD, 270K if Intel.
Yellowtoblerone@reddit
Ignore everything about what's best or worst. The biggest thing is this is your first build, you want something that's plug in and works. Out of the box, 7800x3d on a basic am5 mobo and ram will give you 90 to 95% of the best experience you're going to have regardless. You're not going to know or notice the difference without telemetry up telling you a number has changed.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
True, thanks!
StormShadow277@reddit
I recently built my first ever custom PC. 9070xt + ryzen 7 9800x3d. It DOES NOT disappoint. Mainly for gaming but it's a damn good CPU.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit (OP)
Thanks!