With the US military unveiling its future aircraft, which aircraft are you must excited about ? Anything you hope to see in any of them ?
Posted by Youngstown_WuTang@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 105 comments
KuyaGTFO@reddit
A KC-46 that’s not fragile
Hyduch@reddit
NGAS here we come
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
Picture 6, Boeing MQ-25 Stingray
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
Picture #6 is a fuel tanker
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
Aircraft in order
F-47
B-21
Bell MV-75
E-130J Phoenix II
Holycroc_RVA@reddit
So the F/A-XX modifying the prior YF-23 basically.....
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
Certain parts on the F/A-XX look VERY similar to the YF-23
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
troaway1@reddit
Want to get the youth vote? Promise to rename the F47 the F67
GuitarKittens@reddit
I think it's always been silly that we can't just go in order. It feels like that would be easier on everyone, no?
Oregon687@reddit
I'd get excited about medicare for all.
RandomObserver13@reddit
I used to be so into this stuff…Air&Space sub, constantly reading about current and new developments…but yeah, now I’d just like to see something that doesn’t take 10 years to develop and cost $1 billion per unit plus an insane amount of maintenance hours. Maybe it’s just getting old but I’d rather spend on things that make people’s lives actually better than a new plane with 5% more capability than the last one that will most likely never be used in combat, or at least necessary “defending our freedoms” combat, which hasn’t really occurred since WWII.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
I get what you're saying but your enemies aren't going to go to sleep while you cut the defense budget
Hugs are cool but do nothing for your peer advisory who's developing weapons to kill you every day. The US must be prepared
lueckestman@reddit
Hugs? Bitch we want free chemo.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
So do I , but that doesn't mean I want to cut the defense budget and destroy the United States to get it
CoastRegular@reddit
Yeah, but how prepared do you need to be? We spend more on national defense than the next TEN countries, combined.
Practical-Object-827@reddit
That’s a misleading statistic. Corrected for PPP, 2&3 combined match us. We are still too high but that stat is loaded to make it look worse than it is.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
We spend this for a reason, nobody will try us
It keeps me and you safe, aircraft carriers and the best jets in the world isn't cheap
Saltydecimator@reddit
Where you gonna get this “free”???? I’m not pro mil industry complex but nothing “ is “free”.
lueckestman@reddit
Probably by taxing billionaires.
Saltydecimator@reddit
Looollz. How you gonna convince them of that????!
lueckestman@reddit
Not my job. Just saying it's possible.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
You misinterpreted, hugs do nothing to our enemy the only thing stopping them is force
GuitarKittens@reddit
I grew up with this kinda stuff. I still play a game called Kerbal Space Program and use it solely to make aircraft.
I will probably leave college with more debt than I could ever repay and fewer job opportunities than ever. Screw the military, I need people to get along so desperately at this point so we can actually work on the important stuff.
Saltydecimator@reddit
Ya. Global leader Cage match and leave us out of it
RespectTheTree@reddit
I think that's naive, but I won't argue
RandomObserver13@reddit
I can accept that. I felt differently 20, 30 years ago. I think it’s gone too far, started with the JSF.
aqaba_is_over_there@reddit
Go back to pre Regan economics and we can have both.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
I love Medicare also, but it won't be Medicare if our enemies outgun us. Look at Ukraine, your enemy does not care of you become more peaceful over time.
Always be prepared
SteadfastEnd@reddit
Navy FAXX
magnumfan89@reddit
I find it kinda funny that there's all these futuristic stealth aircraft, then just a random C130
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
Looks can be deceiving, don't let her boring look fool you
ProjectNo864@reddit
So much .:hardening:.
aqaba_is_over_there@reddit
I'm curious if at some point things get un-networkrd. Take a page from Battlestar Gallacta.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
You have to nowadays with China, Russia and Iran always trying to hack into everything
magnumfan89@reddit
Interesting. I was just more talking about the platform itself, the C130 is about 70 years old.
BreadUntoast@reddit
C-130, B-52, Arleigh-Burke, and M2HB will outlive us all
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
For her mission I guess the platform just works
Congress and Navy must like it enough cause its getting a $3.5 billion check
gegunner1@reddit
It’ll be interesting to see what Northrop ends up putting into.
JFlyer81@reddit
My first thought too lol
aqaba_is_over_there@reddit
Narwal Eagle
MonkeyKing01@reddit
US Aircraft are kind of "meh" at this point. Far more interested in China's stuff these days.
tdager@reddit
You mean the US/western allies stolen stuff? Unless you are PLA or a Chinese government shill, there is NOTHING interesting or innovative about Chinese military aviation.
DuelJ@reddit
Speculation on J-20s doctrinal role is pretty interesting tbh.
I'm holding off on forming opinions on the other Chinese jets tho.
DuelJ@reddit
Valor and the Redtail.
MohnJaddenPowers@reddit
Gimme my Aurora already!
lionelum@reddit
No matter year, no matter nothing always be a variant of a C130..... if is not the perfect plane is very close.
KosmolineLicker@reddit
The Bell Valor is what I'd love to see more of, as I've already seen it flying during test flights.
tdager@reddit
Th ones that do not need the meat bag inside of it. 😁
Aat117@reddit
Have you considered that you lose a lot of style/coolness points when you take the meatbag out of the plane?
tdager@reddit
LOL fair point!
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
You'll the picture #7 like the guy said above the factory is already rolling for her
TheVoicesSpeakToMe@reddit
SR-72
dskivvy@reddit
Most excited for the F/A-XX. I feel like it’s been overshadowed by the f-47 and we don’t know a whole lot about it.
gamehenge_survivor@reddit
I would like to see competent leadership in control of them.
CarminSanDiego@reddit
Every new development is and will be plagued with grift. Greed will be our downfall
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
Maybe it is greedy but just remember these platforms are the reason you'll be allowed and have the freedom to criticize the US arms industry
It's an oxymoron, the thing you hate will protect your freedom to say it
Actual_Environment_7@reddit
Airplanes are cool and all, but this is a tone deaf take. US military contracts are so inefficient and corrupt and they have been for a long time. And our rights haven’t faced an external threat for decades. Those threats have been coming from inside lately.
CarminSanDiego@reddit
Bro I am US arms.
Every single acquisitions program has been riddled with corruption and absurd inefficiencies. I see it first hand. We dump insane amount of money into programs that should’ve been wrote off as sunk cost years ago (ie T7, KC46)
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
You not wrong unfortunately
Aerocat08@reddit
T-7A Redhawk
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
The new trainer aircraft !
Aerocat08@reddit
She’s a beauty!
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
All these new planes including the two new fighters the F-47 and the F/A-XX will be ready by 2028-2030
In 3 to 4 years the military is about to look so different this is crazy! I can't wait
Time_Restaurant5480@reddit
Very initial OC and "fit to be used in emergencies" is not FOC.
ChaceEdison@reddit
My money is on the B52, I bet it’ll be serving for longer than any plane shown above
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
That's getting upgraded to the B-52J
TheVengeful148320@reddit
I don't think so. The last I heard they slashed a lot of the program budget for that and basically gutted a lot of it. But these things come and go so we'll see.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
Sixguns1977@reddit
No helicopters?
1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1@reddit
MV-75 is a tiltrotor. The problem with helicopters is range, they range that they want from a helicopter is nearly impossible, especially within a roughly blackhawk shaped footprint, thus the MV-75.
Razgriz01@reddit
It's still a bit of a headscratcher for me why they went with this for a blackhawk replacement, it's so much larger. The Sikorsky proposal would have made a lot more sense, it's still roughly blackhawk sized while being significantly faster.
1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1@reddit
Because the Defiant didn't meet the requirements. Sikorsky/Boeing appealed and lost.
The MV-75 is much wider than the Blackhawk but it's also not as long, which they deemed to be a fair tradeoff considering that it's twice as fast and has more than double the range. The Defiant also had comically large rotors that are a bigger issue than the MV-55's width.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
Yeah this is the Sikorsky fault , the MV-75 was the much better choice
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
The Sikorsky went head to head sign the MV-75 (PIC 3) and lost, I guess it had issues that killed it
Sixguns1977@reddit
I'm more interested in the gunships. AH-1, AH-64, etc.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
There are new helicopters but not for awhile as they are planned after any of the aircraft mentioned above. The Future Vertical Lift like the Bell MV-75 is designed to replace vehicles like the Blackhawk UH-60
The Bell MV-75 is in here but I don't know if that counts as a helicopte
CARCaptainToastman@reddit
I reject the MV-75. She's the V-280 dammit!
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
MV-75 is shorter and sounds more kickass though 😂
CARCaptainToastman@reddit
I work for a company that's been making parts for that program before it was even designated the MV-75.
Calling it anything other than the V-280 just feels so wrong to me.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
That's awesome 👌, she's the future. I absolutely can't wait to see her
Sixguns1977@reddit
I don't think it does. Definitely not what I was looking for.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
It's replacing certain helicopters, I guess the military likes this better. Times might be changing, we getting old
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
The Bell MV-75 is in this post
pulupulu123@reddit
Thank god the V280 won the FVL program. I love tilt-rotors and the type would probably have died without it.
Razgriz01@reddit
It makes zero sense to me why they picked it to replace the Blackhawk when the footprint is Chinook sized, if not larger.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
My most excited aircraft on this list next to the F/A-XX and F-47
hgwelz@reddit
The Chinese J-36 is the most intriguing - tail-less with 3 engines and possibly thrust vectoring.
ChaceEdison@reddit
It’s weird you’re being downvoted so hard. You said it’s the most intriguing, not the most impressive.
I’m also intrigued and curious to see what development China has come up with. Is it a genuine comparable plane or a Potemkin Village plane
hgwelz@reddit
Yes, I'm being downvoted for having an opinion that I find the J-36 most intriguing. LOL.
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
When it comes to Russia and China I just don't know, I gotta see more of them in combat. Russia fooled many with its military being lackluster before this war they used to be in every video game as a US rival
Soft_Language_5987@reddit
Lol. Dumbest shit I’ve read today
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
You no post history and barely any comments, we found out on Twitter a week ago that many of the accounts are from foreign nations pretending to be American
I'm not saying you're a Chinese or Russian bot but obvious to anyone not paid that the Russians underperformed in Ukraine and it's also that the Chinese military is unproven in modern combat
1ThousandDollarBill@reddit
It has three engines because they aren’t very good at making extremely powerful engines
Agusfn@reddit
Downvotes because china bad
stlthy1@reddit
The Arkbird
Kanyiko@reddit
I'm... not exactly excited by any of them. Is it me, or does everything nowadays look like F-22/YF-23 clones?
discreetjoe2@reddit
Are you surprised that everyone is copying the best design?
Kanyiko@reddit
Just massively annoyed. The 'modern' section of my model plane collection is beginning to look boring very quickly at this pace. v_v
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
Both are correct, this sucks from what we are used to design wise with everything looking so different BUT from a military standpoint its better to save lives than look cool
zoomie35@reddit
Maxwells electromagnetic equations is why
a_scientific_force@reddit
Optimal designs tend to converge towards a single solution. Look at how similar the A350 and 787 are. That's the closest we can currently get to an optimal solution for a twin-aisle twin-engine composite airliner. It's the same story for aircraft built towards any specific combat-related purpose.
tumanskyr15@reddit
Idk why but i js feel like NGAD's maneuverability is just going to be dih on a stih (not like it matters bc stealth but still)
ChevTecGroup@reddit
The anduril fury. Just because they are building the factory 30mins away by my old job
Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)
Picture #7 ! Hell yeah!
It operates ahead of manned jets to detect and "engage threats, reducing risk to human pilots. The prototype, designated YFQ-44A, has a common name "Fury" and completed its first flight in late October 2025. "