Egypt's new UAV stealth drone.

Posted by BB-TG@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 50 comments

Egypt announced a stealth kamikaze drone, JABBAR 250.

LENGTH: 2.34m
WINGSPAN: 3.45m
MTOW: 250kg
SPEED: 576km/h
ENDURANCE: 2.5 hours
MAX RANGE: 1,500km
PAYLOAD: 50kg

I don't think this is very stealthy, considering how there's a long nose prop a huge panel gaps.

Very curious about your opinions on it.

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arahnovuk@reddit

Not sure it's stealth but it will have small radio signature

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Fast-Satisfaction482@reddit

But they colored it black! It's invisible.

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DarkArcher__@reddit

It will have a radar cross-section equivalent to its own physical cross-section. That is to say, every radar will see it bright and clear

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arahnovuk@reddit

You don't know how radar works right?

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Apexnanoman@reddit

Yeah something less than 10 feet long and moving very close to the ground is going to be a decently hard target just due size alone.

And if Egypt is worried about its neighbors....Jordan, Sudan, and Chad are going to have a hell of a lot more trouble hitting it than someone armed with modern US or EU equipment.

It could also be something they just want to sell to the Russians or Ukraine. Because both them will probably use any armed drone they can get. I mean even a crappy drone with a low probability of success is better than none at all.

(I have no idea if they would be looking to export it. Just spitballing.)

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BB-TG@reddit (OP)

Yeah something less than 10 feet long and moving very close to the ground is going to be a decently hard target just due size alone.

This is how Houthis and Hezbollah fought Israel.

Their drones were always VERY low altitude once they reached land, slightly higher from buildings.

Small, slow, probably composite material drone with minimal thermal fingerprint.. very challenging to defeat.

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DarkArcher__@reddit

Keep in mind modern stealth aircraft have radar cross-sections equivalent to small birds, and at times insects.

Radars will have no trouble picking this up, the same way they have no trouble with quadcopters. Even cold war era radars on German AAA vehicles deployed in Ukraine are proving effective against small drones.

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Apexnanoman@reddit

Oh I know they can pick it up. I mean they can see birds. But hitting a smaller target is harder than a larger target. Just depends on how cheap they are relatively.

And while drones aren't free they are exponentially cheaper than a crewed plane. And you don't make very expensive sausage of it gets exploded.

Drones are a functional example attrition warfare and material based warfare. Though I don't know if these are cheap enough to make it cost effective to use swarm tactics to overwhelm air defense systems.

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Neovo903@reddit

It's like a convex mirror with those curves, that ain't stealthy

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boraras@reddit

So if you attached two of these together and then attempted to fly it over a basketball court but it went out of control, would you have "careened a dual JABBAR"?

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KoalaRashCream@reddit

Nothing stealth about this. This is visible to every sensor suite used globally

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Leefa@reddit

The documentation I've found online mentions nothing about this being a stealth craft. It's a target drone, meant to be seen. Don't know where OP got that info from.

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KoalaRashCream@reddit

Bots

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jxyoung@reddit

My 1st reaction was: it’s named Jabba the Hut?

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FeliciaGLXi@reddit

Cool looking drone, buuuuut... why is Egypt investing in high tech stealth UAVs when half of their population lives below the poverty line?

Priorities, right?

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Potential-Car4759@reddit

Literally a basic dyi drone which egypt will say cost 1m each and steal money even more from its poor population

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FeliciaGLXi@reddit

Basic DYI drone???

You sure about that?

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Potential-Car4759@reddit

Pretty sure there are DYI guys able to do better than this in their garage

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kinkakujen@reddit

As usual for islamic regimes.

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DarkArcher__@reddit

Is the high tech stealth UAV in the room with us?

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GeckoV@reddit

It’s the opposite of stealth shaping. You can think about it in very simple terms. If you shine a light on it, will it shine back? That rounded nose reflects light back to any direction from the front. Usually you put a sharp chine with sloped surfaces to make sure this doesn’t happen from most orientations, and this design doesn’t have any of that.

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Sxn747Strangers@reddit

Is this just a marketing tool with a suggestive design rather than a working prototype?

From what I’ve read of it, it’s not in production, it has not been deployed anywhere yet and it’s being marketed by a private company.

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