Heavy storm landing | TheaterFire

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ch4m3le0n@reddit

I was sitting next to a pilot in the back of a plane in weather like this once.

As we came in to land, he looked out the window, said "This will be interesting", and tightened his belt.

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Air NZ pilots are excellent with the wind. I'm from Wellington and I always fly ANZ into the capital. Just recently (May) flew in from Aussie and it was hella dicey, my cousin damn near broke my hand, the baby.

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ch4m3le0n@reddit

Yes. Been flying into Wellington for 40 years. It’s funny because eventually you get used to it. Meanwhile everyone else on the flight is screaming.

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alonsogp2@reddit

The problem is clear to me: the pilot should've been sitting in the cockpit. He was too far back.

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m__s@reddit

That’s why it was interesting.

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ch4m3le0n@reddit

Your logic is sound

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Pikeman212a6c@reddit

How Larry makes dead heading slightly more amusing.

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Rude_Worldliness_423@reddit

That’s so mean to do to you 😭

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JoyousMN_2024@reddit

Initially, I was very confused and had to read through your first sentence a couple times. But then it all made perfect sense. Good story.

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aarrtee@reddit

i would do my next few trips by train or automobile

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SiskiyouSavage@reddit

I had a landing many years ago like this at DEN (passenger not pilot), followed by quite a bit of sliding on the snowy runway. Was a disconcerting feeling looking out my window in the direction of travel.

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the4ner@reddit

🎶Landing in the 90s

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drakula05@reddit

Perfect landing

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LeFishTits@reddit

People in the back thought they just rode the "whip" at kennywood

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MisLeadingUserPost@reddit

Quite shitty and a go around, for sure

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PM_YOUR_AKWARD_SMILE@reddit

Fuck me. Go around.

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IDGAF_ButIKindaDo_@reddit

I’m surprised they didn’t go around after it looks like the slip didn’t work the first time….. unless I’m missing something.

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Cagliari77@reddit

How can you tell from this clip that they didn't already go around and this is like the 2nd, 3rd (or more) attempt and their fuel is not anymore sufficient for more go arounds?

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PM_YOUR_AKWARD_SMILE@reddit

You need enough fuel for go-arounds and a diversion. So we don’t know for sure if they were mayday fuel, we have to assume they were not. I’m also assuming there’s not a medical emergency or a hijacking in progress,

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Cagliari77@reddit

OK thanks. Exactly my point. We don't know many details here. Just a landing attempt. Rest is lots of assumptions about why they attempted.

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PM_YOUR_AKWARD_SMILE@reddit

If they had to land in these conditions, with mayday fuel, they already fucked up long ago.

There’s a saying in folkstyle/freestyle wresting: first line of defense is your head, second is your hands, third is your hips (sprawl). But if you have to sprawl, you already done fucked up.

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Cagliari77@reddit

Well isn't it obvious that they had to land in these conditions?

I mean the footage is right there :)

Why would they "choose" to land in these conditions if they didn't have to?

I don't get the logic here.

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PM_YOUR_AKWARD_SMILE@reddit

Sounds like you don’t know very much about aviation.

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Cagliari77@reddit

I don't. That's why I'm asking.

Why would they attempt this if they "don't have to"?

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PM_YOUR_AKWARD_SMILE@reddit

“Get there-itis” is a term in aviation. You have lapses in judgment because it’s human nature to force things when you are impatient or aren’t thinking clearly. Fatigue is a contributing factor in these instances, but mostly bad judgment.

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Cagliari77@reddit

Ok.

And why doesn't the tower intervene and close the runways/airport until the storm is over, so pilots are unable to make bad judgements like this one? So kinda take that decision away from their hands and force them to divert or keep going around until the tower clears the runways for landings again.

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PM_YOUR_AKWARD_SMILE@reddit

A lot of decisions are left in the hands of the crew. Each airline has its own rules for weather & crosswind landing limits. Winds can gust and change drastically by the second (wind shear). Generally the crew has enough info in the cockpit and reports from other pilots, as well as info from the tower.

But this is a clear case of needing to go-around.

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IDGAF_ButIKindaDo_@reddit

🤦‍♂️

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Cagliari77@reddit

What? I was seriously asking. How did you tell if this was the first attempt and there weren't already go arounds before this?

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IDGAF_ButIKindaDo_@reddit

This was 100% a foolish landing. Period. I get it, we don’t know what the fuel situation was like. But even if this was attempt 3 as you state…WHY???? Divert for F sakes after attempt 2!!!! 3 go arounds in this? I’m out.

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DasbootTX@reddit

That’s what I saw too

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Jeanes223@reddit

I saw 1 wheel touch and was like go around go around. Then the rest of em were on the ground and i was like well...you got em down tine to ride this bitch till the end. Good luck.

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aftcg@reddit

Pilot needs some tailwheel time. Absolutely crap skills

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vghouse@reddit

Even just relearning basic crosswind landing skills. There’s not even an attempt to put ailerons into the wind here…

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hoitytoitypitot@reddit

Can amateur pilots fly that plane?

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Bananas_are_theworst@reddit

I would be throwing up as a passenger, no doubt

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schmigglies@reddit

Landed in crazy crosswinds in MEM evening of 11/24. 2 or maybe 3 go-arounds, I can’t be sure. We were getting tossed around like an empty beer can up there. I’ve never puked on an airplane ever but I had the airsick bag out. Fortunately managed to keep it under control.

On our last run at it the pilot was able to get it smoothly on the ground like it was nothing, I was so impressed. And I was all the way in the back, I was expecting to get a lot of movement but he did great.

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spavolka@reddit

I landed in Vegas like this once as a passenger and it was sketchy. I’m an off-road racer so I’ve seen some shit and am not easily shaken. The landing we did sucked bad! It was back when I still drank and I hit two double vodka tonics in a quick layover. Other guys in our group were asking why the drinks so early and not lunch. I said don’t forget, we gotta take off in that shit in like 45 minutes!

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RelativelyRidiculous@reddit

Landed in Dallas almost like this once. Not quite as much yaw at first touch down, but close. I learned to fly in an old biplane my grandfather had converted to crop dust. While it looks to me like the pilot in that video almost wrote a check his ass couldn't cash, I could feel that the pilot in my case never felt he almost lost control or broke a sweat. It makes a big difference when you can feel how intentional every movement is verses whatever that mess up there in the video is.

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reddsal@reddit

Pucker up!

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Sensitive_Wave379@reddit

I could have done that….in my dreams

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jbc247@reddit

Caption is accurate, not an amateur pilot.

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Going_Solvent@reddit

I know next to nothing about aviation. Can you explain why you can tell this is a very professional landing? Thanks

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-Nicolai@reddit

Amateur pilots are not allowed to fly commercial airplanes. Glad I could help.

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usrdef@reddit

Sky King would like a word with you.

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TheGacAttack@reddit

This is the actual, correct answer. All the other replies about skill and talent... nope. That wasn't it. Top-level comment is a cleverly written, subtle insult.

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Going_Solvent@reddit

Antipatico

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Boring_Ad_4711@reddit

This shit would be upside down if it was anything but a pro

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Jeanes223@reddit

Not just any pro. Lots of hours on type too.

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IDGAF_ButIKindaDo_@reddit

It ALMOST wound up upside down. I’d have gone around. Pro slip, but touchdown on one wheel then another slip…… looks fucking terrifying tbh.

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theArcticChiller@reddit

It's a crosswind landing gone wrong. Ideally, the pilot would keep the wings level or establish a very gentle bank (to the allowed extent) towards the wind while aligning the plane with the runway. In this case, the wind raised the wing, which is exactly what should be avoided to maintain control during a crosswind landing.

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Lemon_hawk@reddit

It’s not, they should have gone around.

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ActuallyBaffled@reddit

Which is somewhat expected in a 737

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Hoosier_Farmer_@reddit

"heavy storm"

... 5+ mi visibility, lol.

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CandaceSentMe@reddit

Walked away from it and they’ll probably be able to reuse the equipment. Good landing.

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Aggravating_Plant848@reddit

Walked away on shaky legs...there, fixed it...

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Scrota1969@reddit

Would this be at the tail end of what’s considered safe? Seems so wild at the end there but I’m not a pilot so not sure

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IDGAF_ButIKindaDo_@reddit

Most sane pilots would have gone around and or looked at diverting.

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Cagliari77@reddit

Maybe the pilot had dinner plans in an hour at that city.

"Oh I'm not missing this date." :)

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IDGAF_ButIKindaDo_@reddit

That must have been some pussy!

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UpsetStudent6062@reddit

First officer is there for a reason. They can call go around

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SagittaryX@reddit

Pilot monitoring, no? Though probably the Captain is making the landing in stormy conditions.

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durandal@reddit

I prefer F/O flying in shitty weather, gives more capacity to the captain for situational awareness and decision making.

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Choice_Mission_5634@reddit

Yeah no, not necessarily. Both pilots are fully qualified to fly the aircraft to limitations outside of low time FO's.

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Ok-Gazelle4595@reddit

I’m pretty sure this is in the UK where when these storms come through every diversion airport is the same or worse, this could’ve even been a diversion

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Gastroid@reddit

Gifs like this are a good reminder that alternate airports are a thing for a reason.

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VeraStrange@reddit

Sometimes this is the alternate, then you just have to deal with it.

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vee_lan_cleef@reddit

Yeah, the pilot may be professional, kept up a very good slip that seemed like a stabilized approach, but you can see how quickly things can get messy when you have to then flare and actually put it down while still in that slip.

A truly professional pilot, unless this guy absolutely had to land because of an emergency, would have diverted.

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Original_Emphasis942@reddit

If you're within the limits of the aircraft, max cross wind component, there's nothing wrong in shooting the approach?

That is what a truly professional pilot would... unless he had information arguing against it. Like wind shear, etc.

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mouse_puppy@reddit

Imagine being a passenger in the tail. Watch how much it moves 3 distinct times

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adlibbin@reddit

Need to send this to the person in charge of pilot’s pay and give them a bonus because that was badass

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Leading-Loss-986@reddit

It must be nerve-wracking to be ON a plane doing that much crabbing, but I do enjoy watching it from the safety of my sofa at home.

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friendlybyker@reddit

Total AI. FFS, the wing tips disappear and reappear and that slide is not how a real plane would slide on the tarmac. Total BS

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the_silent_redditor@reddit

Imagine this being your only comment amongst 6 months of simping on GoneWild subs lmao

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IdaCraddock69@reddit

Oh my goodness I checked lol

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SilentWatcher83228@reddit

Real pilots don’t go around

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High-Hope@reddit

No crabs on the landing strip!

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Estimate-Leading@reddit

Damn!

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I_Want_A_Ribeye@reddit

I remember when I was learning about crosswind landings and how there was a “maximum demonstrated crosswind.” Meaning, it’s not a limit, but anything beyond that and you have become a test pilot.

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Designer_Professor_4@reddit

Are the center wheels in that plane negative cambering on purpose to maintain position or due to the plane getting shoved back and forth by the wind?

Could just be a video artifact but I'd swear I see them going 10 to 15 degrees.

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Foih_Fg9@reddit

Thought he's gonna jump scare me lol

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VerStannen@reddit

So that’s why the bottom of the engines are flat like that.

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AboveAverage1988@reddit

I mean, no, but also yes.

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DadCelo@reddit

“A professional pilot”

What does that mean?

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AboveAverage1988@reddit

Technically it means he's getting paid to fly the plane.

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-Nicolai@reddit

As opposed to a random jackass from seat 7B

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gefahr@reddit

They're ineligible for the aviation Olympics.

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Canikfan434@reddit

There’s someone who knows what the rudder pedals are there for. Not sure where this is, or what this weather system is; I suppose it’s possible that there ARE no “better conditions” to be had. Or maybe this IS their alternate!

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unphiltered5@reddit

He’s all yaw and balls

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JoyousMN_2024@reddit

In my head I first read this as, "He-yaw and balls." Which also seemed appropriate.

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wrenchedups@reddit

I’ve spent decades working in aviation and am hearing this phrase for the first time.

I’m going to borrow it.

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MikhailCompo@reddit

He straightened up before wheels down, seems like pilot error....easy to lay blame from my armchair of course, being in that situation is very different!

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throw-away-imessedup@reddit

Fucking pro. Or Ryan Air, still not sure...

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Beyllionaire@reddit

Isn't it dangerous to touch down with the wheels sideways?

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dontpushpull@reddit

that is why alien use flying saucers.

there is no wrong direction. all directions is directions

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Comprimens@reddit

Aww, yeah. Crosstrack dialed in and everything going smooth as SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT. Aww, yeah.

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OkBid71@reddit

This clip is the border between landing and falling with style.

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DDS-PBS@reddit

"Also, can you please get my spare boxers and pants."

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Joaquinmachine@reddit

Straight to the airport bar

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alcoronaholic@reddit

Okay! 🍻

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VapeMasterino@reddit

How did this plane even take off with the weight of the captains balls?

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milaga@reddit

I would clap. After this landing

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Poker-Junk@reddit

Nicely done

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revealing_milf@reddit

oh 😮

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Prod_Meteor@reddit

Landed with wind shear?

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Wolfgang228@reddit

A perfectly executed crosswind landing!

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sassyfrood@reddit

Whewf, I’ve had a few very windy landings and go arounds in Japan, but this one takes the cake.

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AlarmDozer@reddit

Wowsas, this gave me /r/SweatyPalms

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RogLatimer118@reddit

What decade was that filmed? Looks old.

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GatEnthusiast@reddit

Maybe, but video taken during poor weather conditions rarely looks good. It looks a bit foggy/misty, and obviously windy, but it's during the day. The sun really lights up the fast-moving mist which makes video clarity not come out so great, typically. Then again, I'm no video expert.

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talkingtron@reddit

Skills, patience, calmness

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Fantastic_Egg949@reddit

May have a few passengers with brown nickers after that landing 💩

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zoinkability@reddit

A couple pilots as well, possibly

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Rich-Dig-9584@reddit

I mean, look at how well the pilot puts the plane down on the center line. Not to mention the absurdly good correction after eliminating the first crab.

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Charlie3PO@reddit

Not saying it was easy or that I could have done better, but it was NOT a spot on landing.

The whole point of the pilot's decrab maneuver is to eliminate sideload on the main gear at touchdown. You can see them do that and if they had touched down at that moment it would have been perfect, but they didn't. They didn't put in enough aileron into the wind (assuming more aileron was available), resulting in a roll towards the downwind wing which caused a rapid drift to develop. Their response to that was to relax the rudder and re-crab the aircraft, yawing the nose back into the wind while still drifting downwind.

The result was that it touched down with maximum side load, possibly even more than if they hadn't tried to decrab at all.

It's not easy to get the timing and coordination correct and I've never flown a 737, so there's no way I could do better. But none of that changes the fact that the plane touched down with maximum drift angle instead of minimum. This is a perfect example of the coordination and timing being off.

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FishTshirt@reddit

As a person with no experience in aviation is there any automated assistance to help land in heavy crosswind or is the pilot literally just manually turning into the wind until they maintain a straight line?

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jawshoeaw@reddit

Nope. It’s one of the few times pilots are almost 100% hand flying. There is such a thing as “autoland” but not in this condition

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vanhawk28@reddit

All by hand. Even at the few airports when you can do a full auto landing the plane can’t land itself in anything above even a very mild wind.

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Thoth-long-bill@reddit

Where?

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Trashy_pig@reddit

Japan?

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m5er@reddit

More right rudder

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bassthrive@reddit

This sub has too many praise heavy crosswind videos that are actually quite shit side loaded landings.

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One_Level8217@reddit

It’s looks cool tho!! Reminds me of that shocker of an EK380 landing in Manchester in heavy crosswinds that went viral a few years ago. The pilot nearly lost it and it was all over the show but all the comments were praising him for his excellent performance all over the internet…

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