FPN for cigarette butt
Posted by IlI_Mayo_IlI@reddit | miltonkeynes | View on Reddit | 30 comments
Hello all,
Just a quick question. I was stopped by a bloke who issued a Fixed Penalty Notice for a cigarette butt I dropped.
He stated that the notice will be sent via the post, and that his machine is playing up before he scurried off rather quickly.
I have no problem with paying as I did drop the butt.
All I need to know is what the expected fine will be. The Milton Keynes council website seems to be intentionally vague, saying it could be up to £2500.
Thank you for any assistance and advice
PieIndividual2570@reddit
This happen for us in Manchester too and approach by 2 environmental officers. After verifying identification details both issued £150 fixed penalty fine. £300 total. If not paid within 10 days, the fine could be in excess of £2500
Possible_Succotash37@reddit
The fines are around £80 if you pay within 2 weeks. A mate of mine got fined a while back during our lunch brake because he dropped his cigarette and went to grab a litter picker to pick it back up (we work as litter pickers for suez and Milton Keynes council).
They know we drop our trash then pick it up and throw it in our vans with the litter pickers, so they follow us around at lunch trying to catch us out, despite our job literally being to clean up after their failures
gogginsbulldog1979@reddit
Why would you give him your details? Just run off.
morbid-mentallity@reddit
I had someone try give me a ticket and I literally refused to give my details and walked off bit they folled me for a good 5mins all the way through the market.
Dedotaded-Wham@reddit
you did it in the first place because you thought you could get away with it
IlI_Mayo_IlI@reddit (OP)
It was a subconscious action. It was never about whether or not I could get away with it because that thought process never crossed my mind.
Again, as I mentioned I have no issue with paying the fine. I have been informed of the consequences for my actions and that is fine with me.
I was merely inquiring about what the cost would be so I can plan accordingly.
Dedotaded-Wham@reddit
Take some personal responsibility. You wouldn't put it out on your leg or something. You consider throwing it on the floor acceptable for it to be a subconscious decision
PercySmith@reddit
He is taking responsibility, he accepted he was guilty, gave his ID and address and is paying the fine. Get a grip.
Dedotaded-Wham@reddit
You're referring to the things he is legally required to do. I'm talking about having the integrity to not litter
LeonardBetts88@reddit
Happened to me year before last and it was £80.
Like another person replied, you can just walk away and you don’t have to give them your ID.
PercySmith@reddit
Yeah mine was either £60 or £80 two years ago.
CalmIntroduction7766@reddit
Any idea what to do if ive lost the slip and moved address?? Got one a month or so ago and a tad worried.
LeonardBetts88@reddit
I’m not sure, if you’ve moved then they have no way to contact you so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.
Fairly sure my brother in law gave a fake address and he’s not in prison so I’m sure you’ll be ok.
1Pawners@reddit
Someone used my name and a random address, one year on and £400 ‘attachment of earnings’ on my payslip, now have to go to court to challenge it.
LeonardBetts88@reddit
This is mad, they have body cams and told me I could request the footage so surely it would take 20 seconds to realise the person in the footage isn’t you
CalmIntroduction7766@reddit
Okay thankyou, I visit CMK regularly though and just a tad worried but should be okay (:
vivalaalice@reddit
Mine was around £100 when I got it. Even if they catch you you can still just want away, the police aren’t going to come for a cigarette butt (wish I’d know this)
butthole_network@reddit
Or you could pay the fine and accept it's not nice to have streets full of litter?
clues13@reddit
I would not mind paying fines, if the money was used and showed improvement in mk. We are already paying ridiculous amounts on council tax and imo getting no value. The redways and streets still seem full of litter. I would rather pay towards more people picking up, then have these ticketing. I think that many go unpaid and ends up being a long expensive wasteful process trying to enforce it.
vivalaalice@reddit
To be fair, I don’t even smoke any more and agree in theory. However, the way they operate is foul. I was with a group of male colleagues and all of us dropped fag butts and I was the only one they fined (only girl, youngest, in a pink fluffy coat).
They also tried to fine my partner who was vaping and didn’t drop anything. And to top it all off they tried to fine a man with downs syndrome at a bus stop (also also was also NOT smoking and as far as my partner could tell they had not dropped anything) and my partner intervened to say ‘you didn’t drop anything mate don’t give him your information I’ll walk you away from this situation’ and the ‘enforcer’ said he couldn’t do that and fucking followed my partner home and threatened to throw a brick at him for intervening.
If this was a genuine attempt to make our streets cleaner it would be great (I live in CMK and am constantly disgraced by the litter) but the people who give out these fines are nothing but bullies
HouseUK@reddit
i got slapped with one a while back, was smoking outside my office with a client and they caught us both,
Point is though they removed the cig bins from the lamp posts about 2 months before, when I raised that point he claimed the homeless people stole them which is total BS unless homeless people wear hi-viz and drive a van cause I saw them taken down.
I've quit (unless I'm drunk) now but after i got caught i bought a portable ashtray i put on my key ring.
Papaya-Extract@reddit
£150. If it were up to me, you'd pay £2,500. Twat.
IlI_Mayo_IlI@reddit (OP)
You’re an angry person aren’t you?
dallibab@reddit
I'd wager that yes is the answer to that.
bellxrose@reddit
Chill out mate, go have a drink or a nice dinner it’s Saturday x
Papaya-Extract@reddit
When I see someone being needlessly destructive, I can.be.
IlI_Mayo_IlI@reddit (OP)
Your comment could have been the same without the language. As I stated I recognise that I made a mistake, and am more than comfortable with the consequences.
I hope that people are more pleasant to you when you make a mistake.
mr_bonner94@reddit
Can’t do anything just walk away
IlI_Mayo_IlI@reddit (OP)
He caught me fair and square. I have no issue with accepting the outcome for my actions. He was also rather polite about the whole situation. And at the end of the day, it is still illegal to litter so I cannot fault him for doing his job.
Vapor_Steak@reddit
Unfortunately, only £150