My friend's kid wants to build a PC for ~1k any comments on the parts he chose?
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- Ryzen 5 7600
- id cooling frozn a410 black
- Gigabyte B650M D3HP
- Silicon Power Zenith Gaming 2x16gb 6000mhz
- Crucial p3 plus 1TB NVME ssd
- Asrock challenger oc RX 7700 XT
- Deepcool matrexx 40 matx
- EVGA supernova 650 gt
He already has peripherals. His dad reached out to me because I used to build PCs a lot in the past, but I've been out of the game for a while now and I thought I'd reach out to you fine people for a second opinion. I don't think he's especially concerned about futureproofing but a little bit of wiggle room for upgrading could be nice for him.
Ecstatic_Job_3467@reddit
That will rock. 7600x is about the same price, or sometimes cheaper than the 7600.
SeiBot187@reddit
And has a higher stock clock speed. If you can get the 7500f for cheaper, id consider it, its basically a 7600 without integrated graphics
Asahida@reddit
I totally agree for a few bucks. I was kinda apprehensive since I always had an integrated GPU before. But now, the 7500f I got had been 115€ on Ali, while the 7600 was ~175€ in my country so the decision was very easy in my case.
juanpecan@reddit
my 7500f paired with a 4070 and 32gb of 6400 DDR5 has been pretty damn solid for 4k gaming
Gamesrock22@reddit
Having onboard iGPU is kinda clutch for troubleshooting purposes, not worth losing it for the few bucks in savings tbh.
R3xz@reddit
You can also dedicate the iGPU for specific tasks if you like to multi-task with more than one monitors, say your browser or discord for example. It also tend to be better at video encoding than the dGPU if you do any sort of video processing work.
Berzerkly@reddit
How do you assign specific processes and programs to the igpu
R3xz@reddit
Should be in the "graphics settings" from the Start Menu.
aVarangian@reddit
I'd only do that if gpu-bottlenecked.
whoppify22@reddit
I’ve seen that there’s no benefit to using it for a dual monitor setup like that, has that changed now? I haven’t been keeping up with much on that and always thought you just use gpu for everything.
R3xz@reddit
You can and it's usually easier that way for vast majority of users. Most people also won't see a major benefit, or even introduce some latency depending on their settings and software used. For me I mainly did it for power efficiency reason when I used to live abroad, and I brought the habit with me when moved back to the US.
My satellite monitor/s are for online research, YouTube, and communication apps - while using the iGPU for these tasks, my main GPU can literally just idle. If I open up my CAD programs, video/photo editing software, or games on the main monitor, only then will the discrete GPU kicks in.
It's a very minmaxer/poweruser sort of thing, and how I also think about it is that if you paid money for it, why not actively utilize it? Instead of just using it for troubleshooting. Hopefully that help to encourage more people to tinker with their hardware and software.
10YearsANoob@reddit
Depends on where you are. In my country that's the difference between one and two monitors
doomsdaymelody@reddit
Depends on the price difference, for $20 or more in savings I'd gladly ditch the iGPU
Anadoion@reddit
Especially since their going after market cooler anyway
bacon31592@reddit
7600 comes with a cooler though. It's not a great cooler, but it should be good enough if you are just playing games
AJO928@reddit
I’ve been researching to build a PC for me gf’s cousin, and I can confirm that right now he can get a 7600x for the same price as a 7600 right now
Snowflakish@reddit
Second hand GPU is, I think, the best choice I’ve ever made.
Still
I’d go AM4 5600x instead of AM5 4600x if upgradability don’t matter
WideSolution706@reddit
I'm afraid I will be exercising my right to not comment!
Kaptain101@reddit
Thats an awesome build, buy a 7600X instead since theyre the same price or cheaper. could maybe go with 5200mhz ram to save some money since i don’t think the 7600 will benefit from 6000mhz quite like a higher end cpu will, and put it towards a 7800XT but apart from that, amazing build!
m3mmyfromtheblock@reddit
i agree with the rest here, seems like a solid build. only thing i would do differently: get two nvme ssd's instead of one
this will have the OS and games/software running in essentially seperate "lanes" and keeps things running smooth & fast for a long while. just make sure to install apps on the 2nd drive whenever possible.
tell 'em "Good work."
M0istT0welette@reddit
Get a used 3700x i got one of those from ebay for 50 bucks used it in a pc i built for my friend and its perfect so far
alphic_@reddit
Unfortunately theres a current issue with gigabyte having compatibility issues with silicon power ram, and the p3 plus is not a good ssd with slower speeds and units dying overtime and we can get better psu, if you’re from the us i can recommend this list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b7jL74
FriendlyRomangutan@reddit
tell your buddy to spend a little bit more and get a better motherboard so you can upgrade this build in future to a 7800x3D or something like that.
LeatherLog1543@reddit
I got an msi b650 gaming + WiFi, works good, has Ethernet and WiFi options
SexBobomb@reddit
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650M-D3HP-rev-10/support#support-cpu
lol
TheAddiction2@reddit
650 is low, buy something used, power supplies either die immediately or last forever so I wouldn't worry about a used one if budget crunching so long as you get a good brand. I'd personally switch out the Crucial for an SK Hynix or a Samsung and the 7700 for something Nvidia or at the very least one of the new AMD 9000s with hardware upscale.
LeatherLog1543@reddit
Why buy old when it could come fried from the retailer?
abareaper@reddit
you could likely get a higher end nvme ssd for the same price as the crucial p3 plus. for example, check out Teamgroup mp44 1tb.
MentalUproar@reddit
The P3 plus is a perfectly fine drive. Theres no need for a better one.
abareaper@reddit
p3 plus is a perfectly fine drive, but when there are options that are better, for the same price - its worth the call out. this isn't a "oh if you spend $xx amount more you can get __". this is a "for the same price you can get a better quality drive"
either way though, its worth the call out and OP can make the decision themselves. teamgroup is perfectly fine, but that's just one option, there are others.
LeatherLog1543@reddit
I got a wd black from newegg when I bundled my cpu, my motherboard, and the aforementioned storage. My cpu didn’t come with the free storage, they lied about that
digitalsmear@reddit
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Why not get the best bang for your buck if they're the same price anyway?
bedrooms-ds@reddit
plus it's from Crucial
ServesYouRice@reddit
Slight changes like DS3H instead of D3HP and make sure that those RAMs are 6000 CL30.
Valiant-Fox@reddit
Pretty much same setup as what i am looking to get myself, so i would say that's pretty good.
Creepy-Asparagus-740@reddit
I just recently built one for ~1k and I was going to get a 7600 but when I was in micro center they had a 7700 for $10 less not used So be watchful when buying
geko95gek@reddit
See if you can get a better model than the ASRock challenger 7700XT. Maybe the Sapphire or Gigabyte, even XFX or PowerColor will have better coolers.
UrLilBrudder@reddit
We don't know the price of the RX 9070 (XT) so I wouldn't advise pulling the trigger on the GPU yet
Mr_Henry_Yau@reddit
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JQ498Q
Modified the build. Your friend's kid can get a better CPU, a better motherboard, and a better PSU with a \~1k budget. Feel free to modify this build if you want to do so.
Modaphilio@reddit
Air cooler = Thermalright Phantom Spirit SE
SSD = Samsung 990 Evo Plus 1TB
GPU = AMD RX 9070 ( wait for release )
PSU = Corsair SF850L
CPU = Ryzen 7 7700
Motherboard = Asrock B650M Phantom Gaming Riptide ( cheap Gigabyte = weak VRM)
videoismylife@reddit
I agree with your sentiment - the 7700 will be more future-proof. However, if OP has access to Amazon US, the 7700X is only $5 more; and for that matter the 9700X is only $19 more than the 7700 - so ~6.5% more for ~15% faster single thread. Also the 9700X is 65W, like the 7700 non-X; it should run cool.
tonallyawkword@reddit
if we’re throwing $100 bills at the project, is that more future-proof than a 7800xt vs a 7700 xt?
Modaphilio@reddit
This is what I should have done, I should have first asked OP where does he live since the prices vary wildly depending on your country.
I 100% agree, I would recommend 9700x if price difference is small vs 7700.
Klutzy-East8687@reddit
W kid
ScornedSloth@reddit
I second the phantom spirit if the case has the clearance for it. There’s also the frozen edge if he were interested in water cooling. Certainly not necessary, but it is around $50, cools really well, and that’s 3 case fans you don’t have to buy. Plus, I prefer the aesthetics of an aio to an air cooler.
LeatherLog1543@reddit
Not recommended buying the Corsair h100i lcd, even if on 50% off sale. Runs bad compared to other options
MrHasuu@reddit
hey this is actually super useful. cause im in a similiar boat. where someone said they got about $1k for their kids to have a computer for gaming. and i wasnt sure where to start cause some GPU are so expensive. im gonna tag along here and see what you end up with.
LeatherLog1543@reddit
I have a gpu that is an rx6800 for around 360 dollars, 1100 dollar budget got me a 7600x and Corsair h100i LCD… do not recommend the Corsair aio because preformance benchmarks sucked compared to most other aios
dripless_cactus@reddit
The sticky post on r/buildapcforme is also a really great reference point for builds at different prices.
LeatherLog1543@reddit
I Could recommend Corsair 650m (whatever the 2023 model was) for the power supply
TKDbeast@reddit
If you wanted to get pedantic, some of TEAMGROUP’s DDR5’s timings are a bit faster than Scilicon Power, but I have very good experiences with Scilicon Power’s customer service, and usually is a couple bucks cheaper, so I’d say it’s the right choice.
I’d recommend to anybody, especially at this price point, the Lian Li Lancool 207 for the case. It’s only $80, and aced all of Gamers Nexus’ benchmarks for thermals and noise.
I’m less familiar with motherboards, so you’ll need to ask someone with more knowledge on them, but I believe micro motherboards get the job done just fine, but might perform worse in some situations. I’d look into it.
LeatherLog1543@reddit
Montech xr was a good case for me, your pick. They do have the fans mounted right, for once
i_like_gengar@reddit
Seconded the lancool 207, amazing case
bedrooms-ds@reddit
ASRock mobos tend to be difficult to troubleshoot (and from what I read) if it lacks leds for troubleshooting.
Also, do his game titles really need 6000mhz?
SexBobomb@reddit
I dislike Asrock due to some ethical constraints but they're no more difficult than any other manufacturer.
And 6000 MHZ is effectively the sweet spot for Zen 4 memory - the price difference between it and lower clocked modules is insignificant for a reasonable performance benefit
m4tic@reddit
most sensible kid ever
TabularConferta@reddit
I think a 2TB nvme is now sub 100 and may be worth it.
Upset-Masterpiece218@reddit
I'd bump the PSU up a little pinch if possible. With these decade long warranties from some of these companies it's worth getting a PSU that can handle the next build imo
1 PSU, 2 systems
Ill_Faithlessness368@reddit
Agreed, still with a 10 year old seasonic ss1250xm2. PSU is one of the PC parts that will last you more if you pick a good one.
Verme@reddit
Pretty solid tbh, good choices
SalamenceFury@reddit
You could also recommend him get a decent 165hz monitor if they ever feel like playing competitive games.
videoismylife@reddit
A new monitor was the most significant upgrade I've made in the last several years - they've become cheap, fast, colorful and huge; gaming is more immersive and I can fit two full pages on the screen when I'm working without having to squint or lean forward.
GeekyNick91@reddit
What about this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6LHqb2 case comes with 4 pre installed argb fans and a argb controller.
danheinz@reddit
you can use a site like pcpartpicker to check compatibility and search for prices.
loosen32@reddit
If you match mobo and video card brands you can have one less RGB software.
Pebbles015@reddit
That video card doesn't have RGB so it's a moot point.
I bet you have an RGB headset don't you? Did you realise that you can't see it on your own head before you bought it or do you pose in front of the mirror?
loosen32@reddit
Harsh. I didn't look up the card before commenting, but I remember the disappointment when I built my brothers comp a few years ago so it's something I try to point out.
digitalsmear@reddit
OpenRGB mostly solves that these days.
jan_the_meme_man@reddit
Or just use OpenRGB for whatever parts you want together.
OG_Dadditor@reddit
The kid clearly did his research, everything looks great. I'd let him get what he chose tbh, he did very well.
bgusty@reddit
I’d personally shoot for a used 6900xt from a reputable seller, bumping you up to 16 gb vram. Should be similar in cost to the 7700xt.
But you’d also need to bump up to an 850w psu, so might be a slight total increase in cost.
MakimaGOAT@reddit
good picks
helvetica01@reddit
I have a family member that is looking at a similar build and budget. this psu comes with 3x 8-pin (6+2) pcie connectors, which will probably be 1 cable with 1x and 1 cable with 2x. you should use 2 cables instead of just 1 that splits in 2x
(our build came with 1 cable with 2x 8-pin (6+2) which is inadvisable for adequate power and safety)
dzone25@reddit
Everything looks really well thought out - I agree with the 7600x suggestion, the 7600 comes with a cooler he's not even going to be using because he's got a solid one that's way better than the stock one 7600 comes with. 7600x doesn't come with one and tends to perform slightly better at a similar cost.
Could maybe bump to a 750W PSU if he wants to but it's honestly great as is, solid 1k build - just do the 7600x switch :)
Hungry_Reception_724@reddit
id try to get a cheaper motherboard by 20-30 bucks and get a 7600x will give you a bit better performance. Other than that, solid build
agua_moose@reddit
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/ has a good build to start as a base and you can continue to tweak it.
Elitefuture@reddit
This actually looks great... maybe a thermalright Phantom spirit if it costs the same. But otherwise, this looks really well thought out