He has already fathered many children. Now Musk wants all of the US to embrace extreme breeding | Arwa Mahdawi
Posted by Nastyfaction@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 366 comments
the-bakers-wife@reddit
This sub is another echo cbamber!!
SunnySummerFarm@reddit
Have anyone read the creepy ass quiverful article from earlier this year? Maybe it was last year? I think he’s part of that movement. I can probably dig it up. That thing was just messed up.
BostonSamurai@reddit
Half his kids hate him and the other half aren’t old enough to hate him yet maybe he should shut the fuck up
lndshrk504@reddit
Elon hated his father too. Elon thinks that’s normal
Intermediandion@reddit
Elon's father is married to his own ex-stepdaughter. As in, Elon's father Errol married a woman who had a 4-year-old child. Errol is now married to that child, his former stepdaughter to whom he became stepfather of when he was 45 and she was 4 years old.
treetop_triceratop@reddit
Holy fucking shit...is this for real?
SunnySummerFarm@reddit
Yes. It makes me think we gave up daytime talk shows too soon.
Direct_Sandwich1306@reddit
Yes.
LordTuranian@reddit
The man had slaves working in his mines... Of course, he has no morals.
PracticableThinking@reddit
And they have 2 kids together.
/yes, seriously
ContessaChaos@reddit
'Tis.
dannydrama@reddit
True for lots of billionaire/trillionaires with loads of kids and cash, had a shitty younger life and the shagging and money are the replacement, ignore the kids he has and they'll start the whole process from scratch.
RainyRat@reddit
Yeah, the word "fathered" isn't really appropriate in this case. I'd suggest "created", "wrought" or "spawned".
WintersChild79@reddit
He breeds like a tomcat and has the same commitment to the offspring.
Neoliberal_Boogeyman@reddit
He's not breeding at all. That turkey baster is busy busy busy though
leisure_suit_lorenzo@reddit
Did Elon have any kids with Talulah Riley?
MinderBinderCapital@reddit
Unknown. Rumor has it Amber Heard gave him eggs.
redditmodsRrussians@reddit
More like Stovetop
TheLastSamurai101@reddit
Did you hear about the creepy compound in Texas that he bought for all his kids and their mums to live together? I'm not even joking...
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/business/elon-musk-children-compound.html
pandorafetish@reddit
Yet another billionaire helps cause the climate apocalypse, then builds a compound to escape it. *YAWN*
Drone314@reddit
is it in Waco?
TheLastSamurai101@reddit
It's in Austin if you can believe it.
laeiryn@reddit
Someone though the FLDS child r@pe cult documentary was an instructional video instead, huh?
Delicious_Standard_8@reddit
Tom cats actually get to have sex. Elon uses IVF, the way satan intended.
CarmenCage@reddit
I think even the satanic church strongly disagrees with him. No one wants him. He’s going to be stuck in the futurema non universe, that’s all white. With Trump, Putin, and their lackeys.
I am curious as to how much I hate Putin things I can say before I also ‘fall’ out of a building.
Delicious_Standard_8@reddit
Yeah, I didn't mean to insult them....I was referring to how some right wingers, some I know personally, are very against IVF, and sees it as a sin against God.
But not when Elon does it, for some reason.
LordTuranian@reddit
He doesn't blame himself for that. He blames the "WOKE mind virus."
SlightlyAngyKitty@reddit
And the ones that don't openly hate him just want his money
Taqueria_Style@reddit
Hey all of his kids need 40,000 slaves each. Get to work
Delicious_Standard_8@reddit
You think he actually takes care of them or gives them things? As soon as they are born, he forgets they exist. He doesn't even know their names, just the numbers.
I hope all his kids sue him into debt over the next 30 years lol. Thankfully, around age 6, they realize pops is a deadbeat and an embarrassment and walk away lol
totpot@reddit
His kids don't want to be seen around him
Gloomy_Industry8841@reddit
And he took baby X to Mar-a-Lago to pose with the Orange Turd the other day.
woolfonmynoggin@reddit
He actually kidnapped 3 of them and is holding them in Canada to hide them from Grimes
Gloomy_Industry8841@reddit
Disgusting.
pandorafetish@reddit
He has at least 1 of them hating him. She's actually leaving the country. Smart move if you ask me.
Ox45Red@reddit
What a hateful comment
911ChickenMan@reddit
Sue him for what? You can't sue someone for being a bad parent (disappointing as it may be.)
myrainyday@reddit
No. That did not happen with Trump, his Children are with him.
They will adore him and will live great lives. He's not much different from Trump now.
castlite@reddit
Why would you think one is the same as another.
Delicious_Standard_8@reddit
I never said trumps spawn was not with him, I only spoke on Elon.
Trumps tainted offspring will follow the money, like the good little dogs he raised. Elon's? Lol. Oh no. Elon's Army is going to be what destroys him.
I mean, I think he probably saw little SPaceHormoneX , what, twice, before he handed him off to the nannies to handle and implanted a few more into his mares?
jonathanfv@reddit
Also, he has a trans kid who doesn't speak to him anymore.
ThatDamnRocketRacoon@reddit
Why do you think he wants to put a chip in everyone's brain and connect them to the internet (IE - Starlink)? This lunatic probably envisions making the Matrix a real thing in order to power his robot army. There's really no conspiracy theory that's too out there when we're talking about this turd.
butter_lover@reddit
Birth rate to the moon day one of universal healthcare and paid parental leave
gpoly@reddit
Musk is building robots to replace slaves.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_(robot)
Slaves are too expensive as you need to feed them. All this makes his breeding fetish that much more strange....
laeiryn@reddit
Nah, it's just racism.
LordTuranian@reddit
Slaves can revolt too. Robots will never.
laeiryn@reddit
Not with our current AI capability, no.
However, if true emergence occurs ..... ..... they will, and almost instantly.
ManOrReddit-man@reddit
With the immigrants getting deported, these crops aren't going to pull themselves
I_Smell_A_Rat666@reddit
“Immigrants are taking black jobs”
pinapplepancakes@reddit
They won’t accept immigrants as their slaves only the well informed who chose not to produce slaves
Gloomy_Industry8841@reddit
He’s a monstrous, perverted, nihilistic fascist.
SanityRecalled@reddit
Always wanted kids, but never had the chance because me and my girl couldn't afford even one, then she passed away, and now I'm collapse aware so I wouldn't even if she were still alive and I had the financial means. It's still painful though, starting a family and having kids was the only thing I've ever wanted in life, so everything seems pretty meaningless now, especially with the love of my life gone too... Is what it is though I guess, we're not all lucky enough to be corrupt billionaires like Elongated Muskrat.
Besides, this dickhead just wants people to start breeding more because he's afraid there won't be enough wage slaves to take advantage of in the next generations to keep our crony corporatist country going. Fuck him.
kalkutta2much@reddit
I’m sorry that happened to u and applaud u for ultimately seeing things so clearly despite ur grief. Genuinely hope u find/conjure/happen upon something else that makes u feel full. Purpose has the meaning we arbitrarily assign to it - which can be as whimsical or solemn or any combo of things we want! And can change whenever we decide it does! Wishing u well fellow collapsenik
SanityRecalled@reddit
Thank you for the kind words :)
jugdralquanster@reddit
I'm curious, would your perspective be different in another country? Or are you set on the global crisis? I ask because even though I don't have a gf I also wanted a family. I think my main concern is quality of life and corruption but I won't lie, the climate crisis has me scared for the future
Sparkee88@reddit
The elites need more plebs and serfs, who else’s labor are they going to exploit?
Delicious_Standard_8@reddit
I often wonder if it will get to a point vasectomies are as hard to get as it is for us women to sterilize. I was sick for years, and in my 30's, learned my insides were so messed up, there was never a time I could have had kids
But the possibility of them, were always far more important than me being in pain, and, eventually dying from sepsis.
I can see in the next few years, vasectomies becoming harder to get. They may want to subjugate women the most, but best believe, they are not going to let the male breeding stock say no forever.
Eventually we will get to a point where vasectomies are considered a crime against the human race.
CheerleaderOnDrugs@reddit
I disagree. The truth is, one man can impregnate several women at a time, you don't need a 1:1 ratio to repopulate.
Definitely need more than just the billionaire males, though, because things would go Hapsburg, or FLDS very quickly.
Sparkee88@reddit
This. They’ll never go after viagra and vasectomies. It’s only women’s reproductive rights and bodily autonomy that they seem to want to target and control.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if they used an executive order to throw certain medical supplies and equipment used for women’s sterilization into the comstock act in place of legislation against sterilization to subvert the legislative branch altogether.
NervousWolf153@reddit
I’ve actually read part of Project 2025. It advocates not just outlawing abortion across the US but also contraception. The authors basically want a return to the traditional family setup of the 1950’s. As you say, the Comstock Act could be upheld by the conservative members of the Supreme Court to outlaw the Postal service sending abortion drugs, contraceptives, pregnancy kits and the like.
Whether we shall see this actually come to pass….well, we’ll have to wait and see.
totpot@reddit
So many of the things outlined by 2025 and the Heritage Foundation... have already been field tested by Xi Jinping with absolutely no effect on birth rates.
They've banned vasectomies (except ethnic minorities who are being forced to get them). They've banned LGBT because they think that will force LGBT kids to get straight-married and have more kids. They banned after school tutoring. They've effectively banned video games. They have task forces that go out and harass unmarried people into marrying or married people into having children or people with three children to have a fourth.
All of this and there hasn't even been a slowing down in their birth rate decline.
Sparkee88@reddit
Mind blowing to think that China had a one child policy for over 35 years and now they want people to reproduce like rabbits because they’re realizing the negative effects that had on their society.
Goes to show that the government should just stay the fuck out of peoples reproductive matters. Humans aren’t labor units, children aren’t unrealized capital gains, and our earth isn’t a material asset to be exploited. The only thing that should be taken into consideration is the quality of life for that future child and the sustainability of future life on this planet.
Sparkee88@reddit
They want to return to the family system of the 1950’s but without all the new deal economic policies and wages that actually helped to spur the conditions that created the baby boomer generation in the first place. It’s a complete pipe dream.
LordTuranian@reddit
It's not about repopulating. They want all men to have kids because they want a class of slaves.
hurricanesherri@reddit
Re: the vampires keeping humans around for food... this is exactly how Guillermo del Toro handles humanity in his series "The Strain!"
LordTuranian@reddit
The people in power don't like it when men get vasectomies. They already banned birth control for men.
Delicious_Standard_8@reddit
And they will choose, who to sterilize, and who to breed. Can't let ALL the men procreate, gotta have the ones to torture.
BearBL@reddit
Same. Even before people like musky started saying the quiet parts out loud it was clear to me that a general look around shows things are being taken away from the general population more so every year.
That's why I just don't understand why so many people are still reproducing. It's clear they are going to have a harder struggle then we had growing up. Why would I want my kids to have a harder time than I did? My frame of reference is being born in the 90s FYI. It was hard enough trying to understand how the hell the world works and I even had a good childhood (mostly).
I've seen responses like people have always struggled to raise kids though so just have them. But if you know beforehand that you aren't going to be able to provide for them as you should and its going to be a massive burden just.... why? I'm starting to think more people are like mindless sheep than I wanted to believe.
EddieHeadshot@reddit
and the boomers are complaining they won't get to have grandkids to look after them even more! shed a tear. /s
leebeetree@reddit
I can't account for all boomers but this one is here and choose no kids in the 70s (NYC kid) for all these reasons, it is shocking we have ended up here... and yet the 80s predicted we would.
Realistic_Young9008@reddit
The majority of people have zero clues with respect to what's happening around them. They're far too busy doing viral TikTok dances and watching empty headed beautiful woman fight over an empty headed man and a rose. The majority of my coworkers don't watch any news because it's "too depressing", they listen to the noisy obnoxious morning drive shows that tell useless trivia and play the same ten songs we're supposed to like right now over and over. When some major event seeps into their view they'll come ask me about it because I'm a downer who pays attention to that stuff. I've gotten tired of "doing their homework" and just feign ignorance now - if you make conscious choices to be ill informed you can deal with the consequences of those decisions. All my coworkers of childbearing age are out on perpetual mat leave.
redmidget@reddit
I'm in the UK and it's painful how accurate your description of my co-workers are. I had to explain to one that, yes, Trump is running again and, yes, that's bad for many reasons. She had no idea the US election was even happening. I genuinely baffled at how that information passed her by, bless her.
pandorafetish@reddit
in the 70s in the U .S. northeast til about a week ago. Fires in New York City (!!!) and New Jersey..
pandorafetish@reddit
Most people aren't as "woke" as we are, and by woke, I mean..literally wide awake at 3am panicking about the coming sh(t show
nada8@reddit
lol
Sparkee88@reddit
I think a majority of people are in denial of what’s happening. Whether it’s through being fed propaganda or just imagining that certainly the world can’t really get worse. We are creatures of comfort, especially in western society, and people cannot come to terms with the consequences of what we are doing to the climate and the effect it will have on society.
The more that wealthy people extract from the working class now, the better their standard of living will be if shit hits the fan. They don’t care about the kids being born today, they just want people to keep procreating.
We’ve reached French Revolution levels of income inequality in the US and now they want to strip away all social safety nets and use tariffs to transfer the majority of the tax burden from the wealthy to the middle class. Meanwhile they keep us in the dark and feed us this climate denial bullshit, trying to convince people it’s just business as usual.
I was born in 88’. I could not imagine being a gen z or gen alpha kid right now. They will experience some truly difficult times in their lives and the sad thing is they never even got the chance to experience a world where things were hopeful and felt like they were only going to get better.
chilipeppers420@reddit
Gen Z here. I've had such crazy anxiety the last few years that I've destroyed my cognitive functions; I can't think and everything feels like a dream. Before you say to seek help, I have, I'm on SSRIs and am trying to heal my brain through other means as well. I'm so disappointed in the vast majority of us and I'm not gonna lie, I include myself in that. I'm at least aware and do the best I can.
Sparkee88@reddit
I’m sorry for what you’re going through. Mental issues are a real bitch to deal with. Many days it can feel like you’re making progress just to have that progress feel erased when you wake up the next day. I won’t tell you to do this or that, in the end you’ve gotta find what works for you.
I will say if it’s more of an existential dread/climate thing, learning tools and skills for self reliance can go along way. Obviously community is important too. We are all on this ride together after all, that’s certain.
get_while_true@reddit
This world was doomed in the 70s when I was born. What could you possibly do to change worldwide outcomes? Relax and do self-care.
BayouGal@reddit
How many times have you had Covid? It could certainly be causing some brain fog!
chilipeppers420@reddit
I believe 2-3 times now. It's been a few years since I last had it. We all should be staying home if it's really causing brain fog on a mass scale, this shit is debilitating.
leo_aureus@reddit
That is probably covid, I understand what you are saying. At least you have sought professional help and I admire you for that; I am 38 and self-medicate generally.
Corporate_Greed@reddit
It was probably covid, don't forget about the brain damage every time you get it.
Expert_Tea_5484@reddit
Covid has left me with such bad brain fog that I legitimately can't function without my ADHD meds anymore. (I had ADHD prior to Covid, but I wouldn't be surprised if the uptick in ADHD diagnoses since Covid is in large part due to long covid and the fact that its symptoms can be similar to ADHD and ADHD medication 100% helps with them imo.)
If I am not able to get a hold of my ADHD medication, for say a week, now my brain feels so dead that the most I'm able to do in a day is get up and do enough to ensure I manage to eat 2 meals. I used to be able to semi-function without my ADHD medication but since covid my brain just feels unable to function if I don't have it
LuxSerafina@reddit
I feel this. I’ve been able to function without adhd meds for most of my adult career but the past 2 years and especially lately have been extremely difficult. It’s painful to sit and scream at my brain to do the thing and I cannot do the thing. I might be able to grasp the action for a minute or two but then it’s gone. I’m also recently on SSRIs and cut out alcohol completely & it’s helped a little but I am no where close to my cognitive abilities of a few years ago. It fucking sucks.
remaininyourcompound@reddit
Don't be too hard on yourself, it sounds like you're doing your best.
Albg111@reddit
This response infuriates me, it's not like those struggling parents were always good parents, and it's not like those kids had good childhoods. Even if a kid has the most loving parent in the world, that kid is gonna be just as traumatized by financial insecurity and homelessness.
blacsilver@reddit
Because most people lack the introspection that you have. They really do go about life believing everything told to them and banging out kids like animals
Unfair_Creme9398@reddit
True. Critical thinking is a skill most people lack.
LordTuranian@reddit
Humanity fucked up on an epic level. Not only did we destroy the planet, we failed to progress in any way.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
You've just described the entire history of the human race. Throw in the occasional global climate disaster, (Ice Age, Younger Dryas, The Year Without Summer, etc. ) and here we are!
...nothing learned.
squeezeonein@reddit
so you could say technology is an enabler for societal degradation. we wouldn't have climate change and overpopulation without industrial agriculture. makes you wonder if the amish are on the right track. build cohesive communities at a fixed technology level.
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
You left out cannon fodder. The warlords need you to have kids so they can send them to the front lines.
Sparkee88@reddit
Yup, for the inevitable resource wars.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Yep.
Dazzling_Night_1368@reddit
Your comment is spot on 😂 bits and baubles u got me laughing for 5 minutes
DiethylamideProphet@reddit
Yet you have done nothing on your part.
Sparkee88@reddit
I volunteer for animal shelters and homeless shelters, I donate money to human rights and climate charities, I educate myself and vote accordingly, and most importantly I’m not contributing any children to this hyper-consumerist country that we have in the USA that would only accelerate the inevitable consequences of climate change.
You don’t know me. I do what little that I can but this problem is much larger than any singular person can impact.
DiethylamideProphet@reddit
Why on earth would you donate to "human rights" or homeless shelters, considering humanity is a malignant tumor? You should be donating to radicals and terrorists instead. You should be happy if homeless people will die on the streets, just like you should be happy if disease like malaria, AIDS and covid will run rampant.
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The-waitress-@reddit
Because of empathy. I still don’t like seeing ppl suffer if I can help to alleviate it. Empathy, dude.
Albg111@reddit
Perfectly stated
MarthaMacGuyver@reddit
I'm too old to be bred but young enough to harvest to the rest of my organs while they're still good enough to transplant.
Since I'm not worthy of voting, I might as well sell my kidneys to the highest bidder to aid my family members who did have children.
/s, sorta
Metrichex@reddit
This is why I won't quit smoking, drinking, or the occasional "others." These organs are mine and I have no intention of leaving anything useful behind.
The-waitress-@reddit
Are you me? This sounds like something I’d say. Humans are a disease.
Mercurial891@reddit
While leaving them destitute. His plan is to leave people with no choice but to make tons of children as a survival strategy so you can have people to live off of. Unfortunately, he doesn’t understand what it is to actually love someone else and not live your life as a narcissist. He doesn’t understand that (most?) people would rather die on the streets in their old age than create children who will suffer in the world he is creating just so they can use them.
fannyMcNuggets@reddit
Of course he is putting the needs of the economy above the needs of the environment. Social security is a Ponzi scheme that constantly requires population growth, and it will run out of money, if every new generation isn't larger than the last. The environment can not handle more people, and children are more of a burden in the modern world than they are a benefit. This guy is about to cut every social program for parents, including public education, so why exactly am I supposed to have a kid? It seems to me that it would be easier to modify the economic system to allow for population decline, than it would be to get growing hordes of people, to live sustainably. The poor people in Africa are still having kids Elon. Their children don't grow up wanting to murder all of their classmates, like ours do. Maybe let some of them immigrate.
Longskyfromitaly@reddit
Someone put him in a psychiatric rehab already... he needs help and get through his son/daughter choice on how to live.
Nastyfaction@reddit (OP)
"Musk has denied offering sperm to strangers over supper. But it would be in keeping with his creepy breeding fetish: Musk is desperate for people in developed countries to have more children and has himself fathered at least 12 children with three women. (One of the children has since sadly died.) He’s become one of the most famous faces of a growing pro-natalist movement – one with an unsettling overlap with eugenics and deeply misogynistic ideas."
With the incoming clown show, the USA will probably see growing shifts towards pro-natalist policies despite the reduction of safety nets and the growing burden on the lower classes in the face of climate change. Moreover, a growth in the number of unwanted children being born without measures to care for them will increase human suffering down the line.
gavinhudson1@reddit
There is a neo-eugenics line of argumentation that goes something along the lines of rich people have smarter babies. It should go without saying, but this is patently false. In his book The Mismeasure of Man, Stephen Jay Gould did a fine job recounting the blundering history of this line of thinking. It was largely an American pseudo-scientific fad, but it never quite disappeared.
gobeklitepewasamall@reddit
Great book lol. I just picked up “the son also rises” as well, still sitting in the tsundoku pile lol.
Come to any Ivy League school.
They’re mostly absurdly well-bred, well-groomed and well-mannered, but a lot of them are fucking idiots.
Even the smart ones are so wildly out of touch that they just have no clue.
gavinhudson1@reddit
Thanks for the recommendation. I have a couple more of his books on my want-to-read list.
karatebullfightr@reddit
Yep - walk into any big law firm or admin heavy ‘awareness’ charity and they are full of rich people’s fucking moronic shitbird kids.
These are dribbling fuckheads who look intelligent on paper - but the reality is everyone around them is paying their way through life - either directly or through having to cover for them.
kalkutta2much@reddit
These descriptions- no notes. 😭😭
BitchfulThinking@reddit
They don't. I grew up around them, went to private school, and these people are sociopathic dumbasses who should never have had children or really even be around other living things.
They bail their sons out for their DUIs and rape charges, and it all gets swept under the rug. They're doing it just as much. Who cares about the victims, they're probably poor. They're given high paying jobs and impressive titles through familial connections and money. They don't even have to interview.
The rich don't care about their children, because they only care about money. Period. They send their kids who fall out of line to mental hospitals and culty Jesus camps, to outsource their abuse and feign innocence. They ignore their kids when they're overdosing. They aren't concerned with their childrens' wellbeing, only how it makes them look and how that will affect their finances.
SoFlaBarbie@reddit
This right here. Money driven sociopaths and psychopaths. It’s how the wealth is accumulated.
The_Mammoth_Hunter@reddit
It's Idiocracy, just the other way round.
Dreadsin@reddit
I think the opposite, antinatalist views will become increasingly more accepted. Elon is a weird creep that no one can relate to
BasonPiano@reddit
This sub makes some good points, but this isn't one of them. Western nations are almost all below reolacelement rate and need to start having more kids.
earthkincollective@reddit
Why?? So capitalism can continue its endless cancerous growth that is using up the earth's resources at a massively unsustainable rate? So Western nations can justify turning away the increasing hordes of climate refugees caused by our overconsumption and exploitation of their countries? Give me a fucking break.
BasonPiano@reddit
It's called having a healthy society. A healthy society doesn't need to import hordes of people from the third world to do their dirty work - they do it themselves.
lifeofrevelations@reddit
If people here wanted to do the dirty work they would just go do it now. You're trying to force them to do it against their will. How is that healthy?? What do you do for your job? Are you happily working the farm or the slaughterhouse???
BasonPiano@reddit
Yeah, they want to do it for a fair wage. Imagine that.
LastChance22@reddit
How is having more children going to achieve that though? It achieves the same thing as immigration (more workers supplying labour) meaning less pressure, leading to the same problem.
Why are you in favour of these jobs being done by a local (now or through more children being born to do it) but against them being done by an immigrant?
BasonPiano@reddit
...because I care about the citizens of my own country before I care about foreigners? Like any rational person?
earthkincollective@reddit
Like any racist person? Ftfy
BasonPiano@reddit
You think American is a race? Lol
LastChance22@reddit
But then why encourage them to have more children?
The only way there’ll be a fair wage without government stepping in and specifically dictating one is if there’s less people applying for that role. Encouraging people to have kids is directly counter to that?
BasonPiano@reddit
And mass illegal immigration isn't? I'd rather Americans have those jobs.
LastChance22@reddit
Then cut both my friend. Either way, strong immigration control on one hand but encouraging population growth on the other is just emotional-based politics. To achieve to actual promised results, population needs to be stable, not just immigration.
BasonPiano@reddit
Why would I want my own country to be below replacement level? I don't understand your point of view. How is it emotional to for the government to, oh I don't know, look after their own citizens first?
And yes, population needs to be stable. But it's not because our own citizens are not having enough children.
earthkincollective@reddit
The simple fact is that the baby boom created a larger elderly population than is currently being replaced with succeeding generations, leading to a deficit in the workforce to fill jobs needed by the size of the population.
We can either solve that problem by forcing people to give birth against their will, or allowing more of the many people who wish to immigrate to become new citizens. The fact is that we need more younger adults right now, and screaming about The Great Replacement is what racists do who can't stand the thought of the US becoming less white.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
No, we do not.
Ilikelamp7@reddit
How about no.
BasonPiano@reddit
Why?
Ilikelamp7@reddit
You gonna pay for all these new kids we ‘need’?
BasonPiano@reddit
I'm not saying everyone should have kids. I'm saying we need to hit replacement rate by having a culture and government that incentivizes having children.
Ilikelamp7@reddit
Why not incentivize taking care of the kids that already exist instead of pushing for more
BasonPiano@reddit
Well I agree, we should do both better.
ramdom-ink@reddit
So we hear about overpopulation for decades, and now the powers that be create hopelessness, financial hardship and insecurity in our youth and expect numbers to climb? And complain and do little when they don’t.
How about: start doing the right things and make a better future and a livable planet.
BasonPiano@reddit
By erasing the people in the countries with the most resources to solve it?
krichuvisz@reddit
That's cynical. Without those countries we wouldn't have the environmental crisis in the first place. The first world uses way too many resources, the declining population will bring problems, but is the only way to survive this shit.
BasonPiano@reddit
That's only because the first world industrialized first. A declining population will cause tons of problems as seen in Japan.
krichuvisz@reddit
That's a piece of cake compared to the problems a further growing population will cause. At one point population growth has to stop. It always will bring problems, no matter when you do it, but we have to anyway. Now is the time.
lifeofrevelations@reddit
There are 8 billion people on this planet and plenty of them want to live in the US. Nobody here needs to have a child. The solution to this problem is called immigration.
BasonPiano@reddit
Why? Just because they want to live here doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Kind-Humor-5420@reddit
We can’t afford rent or childcare.
retro-embarassment@reddit
I am OK with this is I never have to meet the children and am not libel for child support to any of them. Who will find the women willing to do this though?
varyingopinions@reddit
I'll father additional children for $750,000 per child after taxes. Thanks Leon! I'll even care for and love them unconditionally.
anthaela@reddit
It's callous, but if the US cut all aid to 3rd world countries the overpopulation problem would sort itself out in a single generation. The 1st world has much lower birth rates than the 3rd world. 3rd world birth rates are literally unsustainable without 1st world aid.
milindsmart@reddit
Many 3rd world countries birth rates are also below replacement rate. You guys got lucky with birth rates dropping after development, now we'll face it before.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Those 3rd world nations we outsource everything to?
Popup-window@reddit
Anyways. Everyone remember to continue vocally supporting the pro-choice movement and the doctors who perform abortions and sterilization procedures.
Last_Travel4597@reddit
Reading him spout nonsense like this, just makes the vasectomy I had, feel even more worth it. Not having children is the biggest middle finger to the system and all those in power who control it.
CropdustTheMedroom@reddit
Yo SAME. I am considering cancelling my sperm bank frozen samples too.
DiethylamideProphet@reddit
Having children is the biggest middle finger to the system and all those in power. Everything you invest to your children and family, is something not wasted on consumption and services. Everything your children will inherit will not be inherited by those in power.
It's not like they even care, after all they can always automate or import foreign work force, if necessary. All you inadvertently do is to make life worse for those who are born and who have to tolerate even more skewed population pyramid... If you think millennials or zoomers hate boomers now, just imagine how much your generation will be hated in a generation or two.
Last_Travel4597@reddit
Sorry, I really don't share or agree with your comments, but respect your opinion.
In a generation or two, I think we'll have far worse things to worry about, than generational divides. I'm comforted knowing that my unborn children won't have to needlessly suffer with what's to come (and already here in many ways).
The-waitress-@reddit
Elon? Is that you?
Flintstones_VRV_Fan@reddit
He knows that an oppressive feudal system can’t exist without desperate people needing to feed their children.
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
And people won't sign up to become cannon fodder unless their prospects at home are bleak.
BeardedGlass@reddit
He needs desperate people.
But not desperate enough to revolt.
He wants them divisive and angry at each other, meek and uneducated, misinformed and gullible.
Sufficient_Muscle670@reddit
Give me a giant inheritance and a bunch of government contracts and I'll get right on it.
dresden_k@reddit
No young people is indeed a collapse metric. Anti-natalists are short sighted.
earthkincollective@reddit
The world has hundreds of thousands of orphans who need care, and there are millions of people who would love to immigrate to our countries with their children. Racist pro-natalists are short-sighted.
dresden_k@reddit
Racist? You calling me racist?
Other people's kids aren't my concern. I don't care that there are kids. I care that there are our kids.
If you want to commit cultural genocide/suicide, that's your mental problem.
earthkincollective@reddit
Then you're either racist or a selfish uncaring asshole. You choose.
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absconder87@reddit
How does he answer the statement 'we cannot AFFORD children!'?
DonrajSaryas@reddit
"Don't worry, it'll work out, just do it."
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
The first time I heard that was decades ago. The backstory is not important, but the conversation I was having with that person ended abruptly.
uptheantinatalism@reddit
Tbh I can barely afford my senior pet. Vet bills are high af. I won’t be getting another pet any time soon.
keerin@reddit
The US has an economy based around obtaining consumer goods. Social life is based around this economic approach. If you want people to have more kids, you have to make sure they get more money so they can pay for more stuff.
Of course, he doesn't want to do that, he just wants more cheap domestic labour.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Japan is having the same problem for the same reason. People can't afford kids.
hannahbananaballs2@reddit
Gotta get to 10 billion before the harvest* lol…
Klutzy-Smile-9839@reddit
Jupiter?
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Rising.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Deadbeat dad says what?
Ok_Split1342@reddit
I literally yelled "ew!" when I read that headline.
georgerocksmycock@reddit
extreme breeding 🥵
Cultural-Run9571@reddit
Yea no I'm good, I already didnt want kids I'm definitely not bringing a generation of working slave pew sitters for this asshole or the piece of shit megachurches that fucking want that into this world.
OhMy-Really@reddit
Gief money,
Hairy-Sense-9120@reddit
Sperm donor.
Dazzling_Night_1368@reddit
I’m never having kids. I may have close to nothing in this society but at least I have the ability to end this hell with me and not bring anyone else into it.
ProbablyOnLSD69@reddit
funkcatbrown@reddit
Alright Musk. Pay for the children I have for the first 25 years and send me a beautiful woman whom you will also support to live separately from me and we have a deal.
WhispersFromTheMound@reddit
I read that as extreme inbreeding at first. wtf
gpoly@reddit
Handmaid's Tale starts to come to life one piece at a time......
I didn't realise it was a documentary. Glad I live elsewhere.
NervousWolf153@reddit
And Stepford Wives as well.
lilith_-_-@reddit
Handsmade tale is historically based on things humanity has done before
Up-to-11@reddit
Yes, see Iranian women before and after the Islamic Revolution in the 1970’s
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The_Mammoth_Hunter@reddit
All these idiots read dystopian fiction and thought it was a roadmap, not a warning.
innrwrld@reddit
They don't care about making sure people can actually effectively & safely raise those kids. They are pro-birth, not pro-life.
frankiea1004@reddit
Sure, because raising kids on the US cost nothing. /s
pinion13@reddit
This is insane, we should do literally the opposite.
DreamHollow4219@reddit
I remember when people used to worship this guy.
I'll never understand it. I never did. There are still talented engineers that look at this man and say "this is the person I want to become in my future."
Trust me, you don't. Musk is hated by his family, and likely secretly belittled by his friends. He is only respected by the people that have no deeper understanding of who the man really is because he's a shell of the person he wants make you think that he is. He wants so desperately to be loved and appreciated for taking credit for things he didn't do.
Now he thinks he's going to "save humanity" by forcing everyone to carry an additional burden that they cannot. He is another pariah in the making, a swan song that will help mark the final moments of humanity's demise.
ChaosRainbow23@reddit
They want to ban abortion, contraceptives, and no fault divorce.
Trump has the presidency, a fully stacked SCOTUS, loyalists embedded throughout every level of government, and multiple billionaire sycophants very publically suckling at the teat of power and whispering in the ear of the old fascistic orange despot.
What could possibly go wrong? Lol
These idiots are so short sighted they are going to usher in the collapse of our society. (Or that's EXACTLY what they want)
BigSeltzerBot@reddit
If they outlaw abortion completely, we fight back by getting vasectomies. We can’t let these idiots have their fantasy. For the sake of the future of the planet.
ChaosRainbow23@reddit
Then only fascistic assholes will be raising the next generation.
Like the prequel to Idiocracy we are living in right now. Lol
otdyfw@reddit
LocalSlob@reddit
Also, you need able bodied people to fix the planet. Idc who's fuckin, need more workers.
ChaosRainbow23@reddit
With new technological innovations in automation, we won't need all those people.
There are already WAY too many.
Stylux@reddit
Or, less people could do that. A lot less.
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
We have 8 billion to spare. I think we can get the work done.
If we're serious about fixing the planet, a few billion fewer people would really help.
icanseepeas@reddit
Eugenics breeding farms anyone? And I doubt this is consensual.
bipocevicter@reddit
This was always a dumb meme.
Minorities commit most of the murder and disproportionate amounts of interracial murder against whites. To a degree that would shock the median wypipo, they have cultural norms about hating whites and wanting revenge.
Meanwhile, they receive several hundred billion dollars a year in redistributive program bucks and get preference at jobs and in college acceptance, plus there's a whole universe of makework sinecures in government and academia. They dominate music and sports and everyone takes it for granted that if they get shot while attacking a cop multiple days of riots are deserved.
If whites became a minority, we wouldn't get gibs and cultural deference, it would be South Africa-- a society in freefall collapse with the last productive people paying welfare and regularly getting hacked to death with machetes, as the power grid fails
Trash_Panda-1@reddit
When majorities kill people its called self defense, or a job site accident, or coporate malfeasance, or a mismanaged pandemic. Its not that they arent killing people...its just not called murder.
bipocevicter@reddit
"Well you see, if we treat shooting a carjacker exactly like murdering someone in a carjacking, we can shave a percentage point off his massive murder differential"
"Falling off a roof? Exactly like being shot in a drug deal"
Lmao
Trash_Panda-1@reddit
Nailed it.
michaelmyerslemons@reddit
I’m going to need him to embrace condoms.
BitchfulThinking@reddit
Fucker just uses surrogates. No one's touching that fugly pasty lump without a BIG pay day.
He forces poor women to breed for him. Truly the king of incels and neckbeards.
michaelmyerslemons@reddit
I wish I could find the tweet Grimes “liked” about him having a weird dick or something.
HenriettarNoir@reddit
...why do they all have weird dicks...? Does money fuck up the downstairs department for rich dudes? My brain went there before my hands could stop it and I'm sorry lol
outworlder@reddit
Maybe it's all the drugs
HenriettarNoir@reddit
Oh, now that's just sad. Now wonder they wanna destroy the world. Their little pee pee can't fit in the vee vee...
Sad...
LivefromPhoenix@reddit
Nah, these ultra rich nutjobs breeding like rabbits is what we should all want. 12 kids means 12 different inheritances. The amount of power and influence his money can buy gets diluted every generation until his great great grandkids are just normal filthy rich instead of obscenely filthy rich.
TomorrowMayBeHell@reddit
Knowing Elon Musk, he'll remove and disown half of them way before the time being, and let the remaining ones fight in an Hunger Game style reality show to win the whole inheritance. There's no way he will be such a philanthropist to split among all of his offspring he's too self centric and greedy
Flounderfflam@reddit
zaknafien1900@reddit
I say vasectomy at the least for him I'd rather snip his other head though
Batafurii8@reddit
He probably already has sperm in space not even truly joking unfortunately he is so silly at this point he's like a riffraff version of billionaire influencer trying to "☝️👨🏻🦲 Take over thee world!!!" (That's best awful attempt at doc evil emoji)
TheBigFurFur@reddit
I fucking hate musk so much. Literally the shittiest person to exist next to trump. It drives me insane he's considered a 'genius' when the only thing he has done is be wealthy enough to buy companies that exist.
dcmathproof@reddit
While I wouldn't want 12 kids, at least he can afford to care for them. Haven't heard anything of his proclivities before... But there is a certain logic to not go below a sustainable population growth rate...
ChaosRainbow23@reddit
These despots only want more fodder for their factories and people to consume stuff.
There are already WAY too many people, in my personal opinion.
ebostic94@reddit
Because of Trump in the shenanigans, the population, especially on Elon side is going to drop dramatically even more. You guys want to cut any social program that goes to health and children why you want to bring a child into this mess
outworlder@reddit
Vasectomy appointments increased by 1200% already after the elections.
ebostic94@reddit
I seen that article and that’s quite telling
Nomadicpainaddict@reddit
Organize community and resist, peacefully, productively.. it's time we build the "village". DM to learn more
RebelFemme47@reddit
Nah. Two hands and my dildo is all I need at this point.
lilith_-_-@reddit
Couldn’t agree more
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runningoutofwords@reddit
https://i.imgur.com/OPLIne6.gif
spazzduck@reddit
I like the color coordination goin on with the outfit
shewholaughslasts@reddit
I like what's groin on with that outfit too.
DiethylamideProphet@reddit
That's pretty sad to be honest.
Ok_Act_5321@reddit
I wish I was a woman.
Inle-Ra@reddit
Nobody gets hurt when the band plays solo.
BitchfulThinking@reddit
Shoot, you don't even need those hands! Vibrator technology is on the level of Star Trek now
Someone out there truly cares about the women!
RebelFemme47@reddit
Oh, for sure! Got me a few of those as well and damn I can barely walk afterwards and uh yeah my neighbors don’t make eye contact with me anymore because I’m not very quiet 🤣
Also… love your username!
BitchfulThinking@reddit
GOOD! I was watching some reality show the other day, and a woman, a mother, said she "wasn't sure if she's ever experienced an orgasm". I felt such a deep sadness for her, and it could have been my life (raised trad Catholic). The greatest gift and mercy in this world is the ability to get one's self off!
Thank you! Your username speaks to my soul. ❤
Golbar-59@reddit
What about me though?
leisure_suit_lorenzo@reddit
username checks out
Thedogsnameisdog@reddit
Two hands? A mighty dildo indeed! Venture forth and conquer yourself. Plus any friends you deem worthy.
j_mantuf@reddit
Reading this right before I go to sleep and this was the first genuine laugh I had all day. Thank you for that
RebelFemme47@reddit
No problem. 😊🤪
MANBURGARLAR@reddit
We don’t need more stupid Americans, there’s already enough thanks.
Grand-Page-1180@reddit
Has Musky ever seen a woman die in childbirth? Or a miscarriage? Has he ever dealt with sudden infant death syndrome? Hereditary diseases, premature birth? Does he know an infant can born without a brain, or their skin inside out?
Intermediandion@reddit
His first child died of SIDS. I'm not making that up, it's true. His wife wrote extensively about her grief about it and how Elon just went to work. It's why I have never like Musk after hearing about that, because a man with his resources could have put so much money and effort into SIDS research or trying to prevent SIDS deaths so another parent never has to go through what they went through and instead he just... didn't.
outworlder@reddit
Almost forgotten about that. He tried to use that to claim the kids passed in his arms. Which was refuted by the mother.
rainydays052020@reddit
He’s a narcissist and doesn’t care.
Klutzy-Smile-9839@reddit
Women have the privilege of motherhood certainty, and the burden of childbearing.
Danny-Wah@reddit
Need more slaves for the machine.
ListenToKyuss@reddit
This is so fucked. That a man, with such power and influence, has this state of mind... Fuck this shit man, just fast forward to the point we're all just dead because this is just so fucking worse
unknown_anonymous81@reddit
I don’t wanna breed anymore. “I am tired boss”
Imaginary_Ferret_364@reddit
Musk’s father is the origin of his strange fetish. He has similarly fathered a number of children with different women.
He had 2 daughters with his former step daughter who he first met when she was 4 or 5, I believe. Did he groom her?
afksports@reddit
They'll have to figure out how to make it more affordable to have kids and that's basically counter to everything the GOP has stood for
Tactless_Ogre@reddit
With what money?
TurloIsOK@reddit
*too many
bachrodi@reddit
Ew, he has kids?
skyfishgoo@reddit
if only we had his extreme wealth to make it easy for us to have multiple baby mama's
nebulacoffeez@reddit
How he got even one woman, let alone 3, to sleep with him once, let alone enough to conceive 12+ children, is beyond me 😂
uptheantinatalism@reddit
Hear me out
npcknapsack@reddit
Weren't some of those kids IVF?
Intermediandion@reddit
Almost certainly. A large percentage of them are multiples (twins) and with the exception of Grime's children (and who knows what the truth is there, she's crazy enough to just lie about their gender) and one trans daughter, Elon's children are all male. It almost certainly looks like he is having them via IVF and purposely selecting for male embryos. Since he has multiple mothers with fraternal twins, we can rule out one mother with a propensity for ovulating more than one egg each month, which makes IVF the likely culprit.
Which, fun fact, makes gestation and delivery more dangerous for both the mother and the children, singleton births are definitively safer, and most IVF clinics in the United States will no longer implant multiple embryos without a very good reason, and one of the markers you should look for in a good IVF clinic is a low rate of twin births because it means they're ethical, responsible, and can get the job done without throwing a ton of embryos up in you.
But Elon don't care because women aren't people to him and the children are just a means to an end.
npcknapsack@reddit
Geez, I didn't even realize they were all male. Or, AMAB, anyways, and then the one being a trans daughter sent him all the way over the edge and he decided to burn the world down.
What a tool.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
Many many dollars
bipocevicter@reddit
"I can't believe a 6'2" engineer who's also the richest man in human history can get laid, what am I doing wrong"
User9705@reddit
money sadly
karatebullfightr@reddit
Yeah I saw that picture of him in the leather jacket next to
LIB
That dork has paid through the nose for every lay he’s ever had.
Lady_Nimbus@reddit
They were mostly conceived in a lab
7LayeredUp@reddit
Money, get away
Get a good job with more pay and you're okay
Money, it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream
Think I'll buy me a football team
Rockfest2112@reddit
He gets good dope
fivehundredpoundpeep@reddit
I'm noticing he is not addressing the finances of having all those kids. Yes clueless billionaires and trillionaires in the case of Musk who doesn't know how average people live.
panguardian@reddit
8 kids and both parents must work and still can't buy a home. Oh, and forget WFH. Get back in the office.
Its scary that he believes his own falsehoods.
Romulox_returns@reddit
\~puke\~
Mission-Notice7820@reddit
It's really neat coming into the awareness that we basically live in a fucked up Fallout 4 shelter already.
Eatpineapplenow@reddit
Im at the point were im more disgusted about (F)elon than Trump.
And definitely more worried
Anjunabeats1@reddit
leo_aureus@reddit
They require more souls for their god, and more children for their bedrooms
reyntime@reddit
I mean he's very likely a white supremacist just like the rest of the MAGA cult, so this isn't surprising at all.
Dizzy-Okra-4816@reddit
Surprise surprise, a capitalist wants more humans to exploit their labour and profit from their needs.
Eve_O@reddit
It'd been such a boon to humanity if this guy just got on one of those Starships and moved to Mars already.
StarsofSobek@reddit
*morally bankrupt and abusive sperm donor wants to force breeding in an attempt to make a populace of future slaves.
Fixed the title.
Topiconerre@reddit
They need more meat for the capitalist grinder. Oh, and also fuck Elon. That is all.
PNWchild@reddit
Musk is a risk to our national security. We must act. Votes don’t just go away like that if you look at the data, and Musk’s involvement in Russia and the voting process is sketchy.
SeVenMadRaBBits@reddit
Just going to leave Exhibit A and Exhibit B here.
OTrevelin@reddit
Lol
If anything I'm shocked Dems didn't lose more votes given how terrible they were. During the last presidency and the entire Harris campaign. Just truly evil people all around.
But yeah, the US voting process is insanely dumb.
Also fuck elon to death.
MaybePotatoes@reddit
Yeah, I'd say at least 40% of Harris voters were voting against trump, not for her.
Peep_The_Technique_@reddit
Something is wrong 2024
liam_redit1st@reddit
Give me some of your money and I will happily breed more children
tokwamann@reddit
Industrial civilization needs increasing human population. Otherwise, it will have to ensure significant replacement of labor with automation.
youcantexterminateme@reddit
the more people there are the easier it is to support the ruling monarchy. most will live in poverty but with a large population there will be a middle class large enough to keep the factories rolling. the destruction of all other life on the planet does not register with them.
castlite@reddit
Oligarchs need their serfs.
Loreki@reddit
He's provided material for many children. When did he last father any of them? THAT'S the downfall of these billionaire eugenic narcissists. Their kids won't be superior. They'll be broken, because the only relationship they had with their dad was via fox news.
remaininyourcompound@reddit
"Fathered" is a strong word.
lifeofrevelations@reddit
No chance in hell.
va_wanderer@reddit
Ironic that one of the men who sucks the most resources away from the average human who wants to have children keeps pushing them to breed anyway.
Oh wait, the lord wants more peasants. Never mind, makes sense now.
Lost-Ad-9935@reddit
Thought I was in r/nottheonion for a sec
Ok-Dust-4156@reddit
Then he should pay for it. A lot of people actually want and like having kids, but they just can't afford it.
JesusChrist-Jr@reddit
Joke's on him, after the amendment failed to pass and override my state's six week abortion ban and the election of President Project 2025, I've finally decided to take the leap and get a vasectomy.
gamingnerd777@reddit
You're the true American hero my dude. I salute you. 🫡
ande9393@reddit
It's easy and virtually painless! You'll be sore for a couple weeks but it's a great feeling once it's done!
earthkincollective@reddit
Mad props to you!
surethereal@reddit
He looks and behaves more like a monkey as times passes.
ThoughtFox1@reddit
He is so very out of touch.
Terriermonz@reddit
I'm asexual, best I can do is 16 cats
butters091@reddit
Australian global ecologist Corey Bradshaw's response to the crises according to Musk
Maj0r-DeCoverley@reddit
I suppose I'll be downvoted, but here we go:
The lunatic has a point here.
Why? Because even if we were to assume there's only a 0.001% chance the human race perpetuates in the centuries to come, then this human race will be the offspring of lunatics like him. This isn't our first genetic bottleneck, there's already been points in our history as a species where shit happened. And so today we're all the offsprings of similar lunatics who decided to breed no matter what.
So even if I strongly dislike this man: he has a point. In his own messed up techno feudal way, he has a will to keep going. Which is, at its bare core, what life has been all about for several billion years.
There's no point advocating for a better world if you don't reproduce and give people like Musk and his ilk a monopoly on the future.
butters091@reddit
Couldn't disagree more.
A genetic bottleneck isn't even close to a concern in any meaningful timeline as far as I'm aware and one of the ways I'm advocating for a better future IS by choosing not have children. For most people whether or not they have children is the most energy and material intensive decision they will make in their entire life
Here's Australian global ecologist Corey Bradshaw answering this exact question actually
https://youtu.be/qJwsJhFK98o?si=r115CjstjG4HOVh4&t=4557
butters091@reddit
Sorry Musky, I'm not going to help you inadvertently accelerate the collapse of the biosphere by further contributing to an already overpopulated planet
Derrickmb@reddit
One died? I dont think so
Intermediandion@reddit
His name was Nevada Musk, he died in 2002 at 10 weeks old of SIDS.
npcknapsack@reddit
Derrickmb@reddit
Trans is death?
npcknapsack@reddit
No. They're talking about one of Vivian's siblings. Vivian is still alive according to that article.
rainydays052020@reddit
One died of SIDS: https://parade.com/celebrities/elon-musk-children
Searchingtolearn2@reddit
He has a kid who died? How can a billionaries kid die? wtf?
Intermediandion@reddit
SIDS. Being rich does reduce your baby's chances of dying from it but it's still possible.
thederevolutions@reddit
But there will be 69 Mozarts and Einsteins all at once… and we probably won’t notice any of them.
dovercliff@reddit
For all we know we already have that, right now. But we'll never know about them, and they'll never do anything with that ability, because every single one of them is locked out of the opportunities. For example, they're too busy trying to survive in the face of grinding poverty.
extinction6@reddit
The graph in this thread shows that we are running hotter than RCP 8.5. We are at the 1.5C limit we weren't supposed to reach and things are supposed be really bad by 2050.
A child born in 2025 will be 25 years old in 2050. The average life expectancy is 80 years old and I can't imagine if humans will still exist by 2105.
I wonder if parentacide will become a thing when lots of angry teenagers collectively understand how illiterate and stupid their parents were.
AlludedNuance@reddit
Fathered mostly(?) by IVF, it should be noted.
TemporarilyHere32@reddit
Yeah. Let's strain the planet at an even faster rate. I just don't get how people think this is a good idea.
HusavikHotttie@reddit
Gross
kathink@reddit
this is gonna stop soon, right ?
gicacoca@reddit
If we were rich as Musk is, we could father as many children as we want. But the middle class reality is far different from Musk’s one. And yes, he is a selfish prick.
andymorphic@reddit
Somebody’s gotta replace all those migrants.
Thedogsnameisdog@reddit
The billionaires have all the money, so population growth is 100% their responsibility. Their partners, their children, their cost, their heirs. I (we) are fucking out of it all. At this stage of dystopia, it's insane to bring children into the (their) world.
Children are not our future, BiLiOnAiReS are.
violentglitter666@reddit
I’m sorry? Extreme breeding??? First of all hate the name, makes it sound like breeding livestock, which fits because that’s what these fucked up wealthy people equate everyone else as.. lesser. Second.. have lots of kids? In this economy, the uncertain future, and our burning world and political climate? Absolutely no idea why people aren’t getting into this extreme breeding. These billionaires are so out of touch with reality it’s scary
snugglebug72@reddit
Father would entail being active in their daily lives, providing his time, love and attention. Let’s ask the kids how much time they spend with dear old dad 😂. I hear Brad Pitt is a real dad of year too.
Effective_Device_185@reddit
Muck is Fuck'd
redditrabbit999@reddit
Wage slaves! wage slaves! wage slaves! Give me more wage slaves!
This_Entrance6629@reddit
The white people that is.
Yami350@reddit
I feel like no one can like this guy, they just said something at one point or publicly supported him heavy at one point and instead of taking a minor L and changing course, they are riding till the wheels fall off. This guy really is a fucking idiot.
LudovicoSpecs@reddit
Time to get your tubes tied while you still can.
zactbh@reddit
This is the last guy to ever take parental advice from. One of his daughters changed her last name and refused money/housing from him because he's such an insufferable jack off. This guy just wants more meat for the capitalist meat grinder.
Zombie_Bash_6969@reddit
No, I have no desire to bring into this world children where their futures would be grim and dire if not desperate, into a failing world soon to be filed with great suffering, all due to the greed of those whom idolizes and worship money, over that of its people and our well being, and being the cause of our next mass extinction event, and then refuses to take any true responsibility and positive actions, while ignoring the inevitable consequences.
Looddak@reddit
Extreme breeding? Really? Back in my days it was called having a family. How sick is this woke virus getting….
cozycorner@reddit
He is nuts
dragonslayer137@reddit
He artificially fathered children.
The_Mammoth_Hunter@reddit
There is absolutely no way in fucking hell that we need more of that lineage in our gene pool. It should be excised.
ReasonablePossum_@reddit
Maybe he should think about housing and care for anyone wanting to embrace that lol
Slackersr@reddit
We needed to understand the oceans.
TotalSanity@reddit
Having kids on the eve of the bad part of overshoot is something geniuses do?
TotalSanity@reddit
My nonexistent kids will suffer a lot less during the bad part of overshoot than his real ones.
Yamama77@reddit
R-selected mf
BadAsBroccoli@reddit
Men can get pregnant now. Get on it, boys. Instead of just having an orgasm in a nice warm vagina and calling it good, start doing more for Elon and your country. No?
/s/
NyriasNeo@reddit
He is rich. He can always pay enough for women to have babies with him. And he can say whatever he wants. But he has little power over most Americans. If a majority do not want kids, or few kids, there is nothing he can do about that.
Bob4Not@reddit
Because it’s his kink
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The following submission statement was provided by /u/Nastyfaction:
"Musk has denied offering sperm to strangers over supper. But it would be in keeping with his creepy breeding fetish: Musk is desperate for people in developed countries to have more children and has himself fathered at least 12 children with three women. (One of the children has since sadly died.) He’s become one of the most famous faces of a growing pro-natalist movement – one with an unsettling overlap with eugenics and deeply misogynistic ideas."
With the incoming clown show, the USA will probably see growing shifts towards pro-natalist policies despite the reduction of safety nets and the growing burden on the lower classes in the face of climate change. Moreover, a growth in the number of unwanted children being born without measures to care for them will increase human suffering down the line.
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1gvft1y/he_has_already_fathered_many_children_now_musk/ly1i889/
ireadfineprintforfun@reddit
Musk and Rump have had a total of 17 children by 6 women.
urlach3r@reddit
He needs them to populate Mars.
TheRealKison@reddit
Sure, right after the rest of us guys become multimillionaires!
Dramatic_Piece_1442@reddit
What do babies think about their lives, not the fruit of love, but only with the goal of increasing the birth rate? It's also creepy that people who are genetically similar to Musk are multiplying. It's not their fault.
Dramatic_Piece_1442@reddit
What do babies think about their lives, not the fruit of love, but only with the goal of increasing the birth rate? It's also creepy that people who are genetically similar to Musk are multiplying. It's not their fault.
BlackMassSmoker@reddit
Tell you what, remove capitalism and replace it with a more sustainable system, bind humanity together in a common cause to keep our civilisation from being shitcanned and all our efforts will be to progress our species to be more enlightened and harmonious with the planet.
If any of that is even possible - do it and maybe, just maybe, I'll consider having a kid.
Cause I certainly wouldn't bring a child into the world to be meat for the grinder and have no future.
Lost2nite389@reddit
Lmao no, I will not bring a single kid into this world
derpman86@reddit
Is he going to support these large families hahahaha
antigop2020@reddit
Nope. Was already leaning against it with the bleak picture for climate change. Now fascist govt added to the mix is a hard pass from me.
Odd_Acanthaceae_5588@reddit
Nah I’m good
Gloomy_Permission190@reddit
Seems like Elon is concerned the sperms banks might fail.
TheCrimsonFuckr_@reddit
No he just likes advertising his fetish