What is the most comfortable car ever made?
Posted by mercasio391@reddit | Autos | View on Reddit | 159 comments
I recently bought a 2024 Telluride, and I love it for a variety of reasons. One of the main reasons though is that it’s fundamentally a really nice place to be. It’s got nice seats, a nice ride, well-placed arm rests (super important!), and heat and cooling everywhere that matters.
Recently, this got me thinking: what is the single most comfortable car ever made? Obviously this is a bit subjective, and different features will matter to different people, but I’m curious about people’s experiences behind the wheel of the best commuters ever made.
JourdanWithaU@reddit
When money is no object and you’re being driven, yeah, Rolls Royce or Maybach is up there.
As a driver? Regular traffic?
Chevy Tahoe.
I used to travel a bunch for work and I got to experience a bunch of different rental cars for about a week each. Once I landed a Tahoe, that’s all I wanted. Smooth ride, comfortable seat, good sound system, big door making it easy to get in and out of. But the real kicker, everything adjusted. The seat moved forward/back, up/down, reclined like you would expect. The steering wheel tilts and telescopes like you would expect. But then… the pedals move too. Driving that thing, everything was exactly where it needed to be. Love it.
Tahoe is just the bottom. Suburban is the same deal. You just have to hike an extra 3 miles to get to the trunk. I’d imagine that the Yukon is the same as is the Escalade. You get degrees of luxury but the foundation is solid.
Brookeofficial221@reddit
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SnooGuavas2202@reddit
1996 Lincoln Towncar
118R3volution@reddit
Well realistically probably a Rolls Royce Cullinan or Bentley Bentayga if you’re thinking SUV. Generally though I think Mercedes S-Class is famous for being the most luxurious/comfortable inside and even more so the Mercedes-Maybach S680. These vehicle have extremely advanced suspension, sound deadening and super thick glass for extremely quiet interiors. Then - add some of the best sound systems in the world like Bermester speakers, and insanely comfortable seats and it’s pretty much the best you can get.
SickZX6R@reddit
No way about the Bentayga. The Bentayga is just another half-sporty compromise vehicle that doesn't really excel at anything in particular except being expensive and looking cool. It rides just like an RSQ8, Urus, or Cayenne, which is to say good, but not great. The early 2000s Escalades were easily more comfotable than any Bentayga.
118R3volution@reddit
That’s fair, but as far as the OP referring to a “nice place to be” I’m 100% confident in saying a Bentayga from 2024 is a way way way nicer place to be than an early 2000 Escalade, even if maybe that offers a more plush ride.
SickZX6R@reddit
I'm not arguing that -- the OP's question is strictly about comfort. And having driven a Bentayga on and off-road as well as a vast number of exotics in general, I can tell you that the Bentayga, while quite nice in general, does not offer the same "flying couch" comfort that many older vehicles do.
einTier@reddit
Phantom rides better than the Cullinan. Rolls Royce is practically the only manufacturer still doing the old school land yacht "couch going down the road" style luxury.
They control the body roll using active suspension. I've not decided if this is a good thing or not. It definitely feels weird.
118R3volution@reddit
That’s fair, I trust you know better. I’ve never actually been in a RR or Bentley or Maybach but it’s the reputation and technology that leads me to recommend them.
It would be interesting though prompt the same question, most comfortable/luxurious interior in a vehicle sub but rather more consumer level - say $60,000 max that must be newer than 2019 (5 years old).
shundi@reddit
Lexus, S-Class, 7 Series, A8, RR, Bentley, Caddy - will say I’ve driven all and at those parameters ($60k range / around 2019) Lexus with AVS is pretty incredible
injiner@reddit
Can confirm. VW Caddy is a comfy car, and has a lot of space! /s
FNA_Couster@reddit
I've been in Phantoms, Cullinans, and most Bentleys.
It's subjective opinion obviously but I found the Spectre to be the nicest, Phantom a close second. The Cullinan and Bentayga didn't ride much better than my GLS.
asamor8618@reddit
How'd you get to be in all those expensive cars?
FNA_Couster@reddit
Work in private equity. Clients have a lot of nice cars and we lease a few.
TechTrailb@reddit
It seems that Volvo is a very reliable and comfortable car, at least I like it very much.❤️
Flimsy_Maize6694@reddit
The Peugeot 505
DarkFireGuy@reddit
If you live in a place with good highways then a CTR is pretty cool. Smooth at high speeds and you get a stick.
pm-me-racecars@reddit
The 70s luxo-barges are probably the most comfortable thing us mortals will experience. Like riding down the highway on a sofa
crankbot2000@reddit
Except when you hit a corner and that boat lists so hard your whole body is pinned against the door by centrifugal force.
AZREDFERN@reddit
*angular momentum
pm-me-racecars@reddit
That's why we'll never see that level of comfort again. Heavy cars and soft springs makes for a super comfortable ride, but it makes it roll like crazy.
roflmaodub@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU9s4q0FUS8&pp=ygUYcGFuYW1lcmEgc3VzcGVuc2lvbiB0ZXN0
SnooCalculations8122@reddit
That is cool af
Cessnaporsche01@reddit
Idk, active suspension could do both. I think the super luxury cars already do it
DHGXSUPRA@reddit
My buddies 85 cutlass he had is exactly what I think of. Plush cushion bench seat, just like a couch. ash trays in the back for the smokers. Best part was he had this 07-11 when we went to high school lol
astraeoth@reddit
A ride in an acquaintance's father's Escalade in like '03-'04 time. Literally felt like i was riding a lazy boy couch.
Extension-Rabbit3654@reddit
Uncle had a Cadillac El Dorado, it was like driving on a leather couch.
cedit_crazy@reddit
Idk the 90s licon towns were pretty good you have the road feel of a 70s luko barge with modern climate controls
SlyClydesdale@reddit
Not all of them. The ‘70s Chryslers were fairly stiffly sprung with their torsion bar suspensions. They handled pretty well for the time, though.
The big Mercurys and Lincolns rode the softest, but you’d need a seasick patch on anything but straight roads.
The GM large cars had a strong balance between ride and body control, but their body engineering in the ‘70s meant the hardtop coupes and hardtop sedans flexed and jiggled a lot.
I_amnotanonion@reddit
I own a C-body Chrysler (1975 Imperial sedan). Front torsion beam and rear leafs. It’s comfortable and does actually feel like it handles better than B-bodies of the time (it doesn’t handle well, but just better than you’d expect). That being said, the C-bodies are also unibody and are pretty stiff for what they are so that probably helps as well
Mangonesailor@reddit
My '70 galaxie could go over railroad tracks at 35mph and you'd never feel it. Whereas in any modern car you have to slow down. It was a solid big highway cruiser that was made to move the family on trips. It could seat 6 comfortably and you could put about 6 bodies in the trunk if you wanted.
My '78 coupe DeVille handled curves a lot better than the previous, and the seats were much more comfortable. It didn't have the French pillow-top buckets in it, but the seats were already super comfortable.
I'd say the ride quality cruising is just a little better in the Cadillac than my '14 GS350. But, if there were any divots in the road the Cadillac you wouldn't feel them, but you'll get jostled around in my Lexus, even with the suspension in comfort mode. The LS with air shocks is probably better, but, I've heard folks still complain it's not as soft. Probably has to do with modern cars lacking a lot of suspension travel
Silverchaoz@reddit
I have driven a Datsun 280ZX. The seats are just god tier. So soft and so comfortable to sit in.
squirrel_tincture@reddit
All-around Goldilocks cars, they’re real gems. I learned to drive stick in a 280Z with the very forgiving four-speed… and then I had to learn to drive stick in just about anything else.
candre23@reddit
I learned in an 86 subaru GL wagon, and same. Absolutely no finesse or precision was needed to shift. It was a rust bucket and shit was constantly falling off of it, but that trans was fucking effortless.
squirrel_tincture@reddit
Haha, sounds very similar to my intro to manuals. The “to hell with it, floor it and pop the clutch” doesn’t translate well to many other vehicles, like those with horsepower numbers that have three digits.
doubled112@reddit
The low end torque of a diesel always made switching to other people's cars make me look brand new.
What do you mean blip the throttle? I can't just let this clutch out?
Muscle memory is a powerful force. Don't mind me, it's my first time, I swear. Definitely not been driving sticks for 10+ years.
rudbri93@reddit
The big ol' D bodies were like driving half your house. honorable mention to W bodies, also solid highway cruisers.
mini4x@reddit
GM B bodies are of worthy mention as well. Also Chrysler C bodies.
thegrumpymechanic@reddit
Not to mention those bitchin swivel seats for ease of entry/exit, that thick fluffy carpet, and a rear seat the size of a twin bed... really was a house on wheels.
Man do I miss those swivel seats.
CaptainArsehole@reddit
Did those things have sway bars?
frakking_you@reddit
Lagonda
simioh@reddit
I recently got a Volvo XC60 (hadn't even looked twice at any Volvo before). It's a very nice interior, specially with the upgraded leather, massage seats, seat bolster and thigh adjustment. The steering wheel has 3 levels of heating which I had never seen before. The Bowers and Wilkins audio system is the best stock system I've heard (compared to Bose, Harman Kardon, and others).
mercasio391@reddit (OP)
I have a family member who has one and I have always thought it looked comfortable and secure for long rides, I was wondering if it would come up
mikebrown33@reddit
Late 90s Grand Marquis / Crown Vic
az9393@reddit
Rolls Royce phantom.
im_buhwheat@reddit
Citroen DS
SukiDobe@reddit
I had a 1998 Lincoln Continental and that to date is still about the most comfortable drive I’ve ever had
lord_miller@reddit
Toyota Avalon
Psirocking@reddit
The reclining rear seats and the legroom
MCMaddict@reddit
I have quite of bit of experience with a lot of high end SUV’s including all the rolls Royce models. A 2021+ Escalade esv with the mag ride + air ride is hands down the most comfortable car on the road. Granted idk how they hold up that comfort when they get miles on them but when they’re new they’re incredible.
If you’re going car route, new gen s class for the more “attainable” one or a phantom.
Speaking from an owner/previous owner point of view not parroting information I’ve seen online.
weirdoldhobo1978@reddit
Citreon DS
freezies1234@reddit
1990-1994 Lincoln Town Car
yarrrJake@reddit
Agreed. My 94 was amazing. It was also significant more comfortable than my 96.
freezies1234@reddit
My first was a 90 and it was better than every other generation Ive had… and Ive had em all!
yarrrJake@reddit
I had a 1994 Lincoln Town Car that was easily the most comfortable car I've ever been in. I still miss that thing.
Mrrasta1@reddit
Believe it or not a 1960’s Peugeot 604 is like driving a comfy armchair. As a bonus, you could still start it with a crank, if you had the strength.
ThundrLord@reddit
Idk but I love my 2024 Buick Encore
samarijackfan@reddit
e38 2001 750iL
UrDeAdPuPpYbOnEr@reddit
The late 80s Chevy grandma cars with the velour interior.
MEGAgatchaman@reddit
Any car that's paid off in full.. What can I say.. I find comfort in financial security..
ReverendKen@reddit
I drive a "96 Cadillac Hearse and it is incredibly comfortable. I just floats over the road. To the best of my knowledge on one riding in the back ever complained about a bumpy ride.
toastmannn@reddit
Rolls-Royce Phantom or Rolls-Royce Spectre
overcrispy@reddit
Old caddy with a bench seat.
STERFRY333@reddit
I can sit in my Volvo 740 for long road trips no problem.
vampyrelestat@reddit
1990 Mercury Grand Marquis
cdsbigsby@reddit
Grand Marquis was going to be my vote, too. I had a 1996 and it was like driving a sofa down the road, and you're just cruising along and you look down to find you're accidentally going 105 mph. Fantastic cars.
I'm actually considering a 2010 or 2011 for my next car.
_DirtyYoungMan_@reddit
Once I drive my 2005 Freestyle into the ground my next car will probably be a 4th gen Grand Marquis LS.
cdsbigsby@reddit
I like the Freestyle (and all wagon-type things) but I thought the transmission has already gone out of every Freestyle. Respect
_DirtyYoungMan_@reddit
It has very low miles, 105,000 in 19 years because I've always lived close to work. Most of the miles were highway miles for the 4 years I was racing motorcycles. Last 10 years I've averaged about 3,500 miles per year.
driverdan@reddit
You've never been in a luxury car have you? I owned an early 90's Crown Vic. It was a nice highway cruiser but nowhere near the most comfortable car.
_DirtyYoungMan_@reddit
My buddy had an 83' Delta 88 Brougham with crushed red velvet seats and it was definitely the most comfortable car I've ever sat in.
BeaverMartin@reddit
Probably a 1996 Fleetwood. Rides like a cloud.
cducky0@reddit
Not sure but a 2007 Mercury Grand Marquis feels like you're sitting and driving on a cloud.
Makesyousmile@reddit
Drove a Citroen C6 once. It’s like riding a comfy sofa on a road of clouds. Even the ModelX I own now, with it’s fancy-pants boaty air-ride doesn’t come close.
AvarethTaika@reddit
ls430
INACCURATE_RESPONSE@reddit
The sc400 (Toyota Soarer) was a dream inside. It was more cocooning than a the large sedan series.
Eagle0913@reddit
Agreed. Although I wish the styling was more like the LS400. I think the LS400 is so much more handsome
SharpLead@reddit
Still miss mine. Fantastic cars.
bebopblues@reddit
I remember when I was a kid and my mom bought an LS400, I swear it was the coolest car ever and rides like it was on the clouds.
Deluxe_Burrito7@reddit
This is the pinnacle of Lexus. They’ve never made a car more comfortable (or reliable) since
DevilishRogue@reddit
The Jaguar XJ Series 3 1979-1992 is the most comfortable car ever made for the driver. All the comfort of the land yachts of the era but can actually handle well and is a joy to drive. You can drive hundreds of miles in one and still step out feeling relaxed and as refreshed as when you got in.
RabidAcorn@reddit
80s Lincoln Town Car.
burner456987123@reddit
Buick park ave
Lincoln town car
Cadillac fleetwood
jaquatics@reddit
Yes! First car was 84 Park Ave. Couch cushion on wheels, so plush and so techy too! Ash trays and lighters in all the doors! Digital temp display with outside temp. Miss that thing.
Old-Significance4921@reddit
1999 Oldsmobile 88. My grandfather had one and it was just, plush.
jaquatics@reddit
Had an 84 Buick Park Avenue as my first car. That thing was a couch cushion on wheels. So comfortable!
Left4DayZGone@reddit
Something from the 70’s I’d wager.
My 77 cutlass (owned from 2007 to 2011, I’m not ancient) drove like riding on a silk-lined cloud with cherubs gently caressing your butt cheeks. Instant throttle response, good brakes, pinky finger steering… didn’t handle great but it was so cozy to drive, you could just relax and enjoy. And the Cutlass was “sportier” than the sedans and luxury cars of the era.
picawo99@reddit
I vote for Lexus.
KeyboardMaestro@reddit
Everyone talking about 70s cars being comfortable have NEVER driven a Citroen with Hydropneumatic suspension. I have owned two and they were the most comfortable cars i've ever sat in.
calculating_hello@reddit
Can speak for ever, but for me my grandfathers 1970 ish Mercury Grand Marquis, was like floating along on a cushy marshmallow.
DieselGeek609@reddit
1970s Mercury Cougar, 1990s Dodge Dynasty 👌
mercasio391@reddit (OP)
I’ve been thinking further about this and as a follow up- what is the single most important feature of a comfortable car?
krombopulousnathan@reddit
Fart evacuator.
ArchitectOfFate@reddit
Accessible cars? The big boats, culminating in the early 90s "round body" Roadmasters and Fleetwood Broughams. They fixed some of the slop from the 70s and 80s while maintaining roughly the same level of comfort.
Less-accessible cars? You don't really know automotive comfort until you've ridden in a Rolls. I know it's a stereotypical answer, but good god sitting in a Phantom is a borderline-spiritual experience.
SlyClydesdale@reddit
Probably a Citroën DS or CX.
HandyCapInYoAss@reddit
DS is the correct answer
LordBogus@reddit
This, forever. My dad once sat in one and it went with 100kmph on the side of the road with 2 wheels and it ironed out everything
Karamazov_A@reddit
I second the Citroën hydropneumatic suspension cars.
red_fuel@reddit
2008 Citroën C5 is very comfortable too, even with regular suspension. You would think it has the hydropneumatic suspension.
noisymime@reddit
I had a 2003 C5 with the Hydractive 3+ and it wasn't as good as the old DS cars I've been in. Was a lot better after swapping out the standard spheres for the 'limo' version though.
noisymime@reddit
Gonna go specific here and say the DS21 Pallas. It was the luxury variant of the highest model trim and is insanely smooth.
SlyClydesdale@reddit
The CX Prestige has to be up there, too.
Warmersand55646@reddit
I know a guy who owned a CX and a Rolls Royce Silver Spirit simultaneously and thought the CX was more comfortable, roomier and had a nicer overall driving experience
SlyClydesdale@reddit
Especially when you consider that the Rolls’ suspension was based on the Citroën system in that era.
Warmersand55646@reddit
I know, that makes it all the more crazy that the CX was so good. Also, the series 2 CX shared its wing mirrors with the Jaguar XJ220, Lotus Esprit and Aston Martin DB7. It’s so much more entangled in traditionally luxurious brands than a lot of people realise
hazard2k@reddit
Late 90s/early 00s Buick or Oldsmobile cars. The suspensions were super soft and you were basically sitting on a couch going down the road.
ATXKLIPHURD@reddit
Any late 80s or early 90s Buick or Oldsmobile. Soft, cushy velour and they had the smoothest ride. Like floating on the road
homedepotSTOOP@reddit
My partner had a 93 LeSabre that just FLOATED down the highways on a bench in the front. Cotton that acted like a sponge and gave like a soft mattress. I actually loved that car.
Beachsidehydra@reddit
Had an 01 LeSabre and it was the best car I ever had to date simply because it was so comfortable.
RonBurgundy2000@reddit
The correct answer will always be an S- Class.
PaleGoat4022@reddit
All of you here mentioning 70’s luxo-barges for their comfort and yet forget to mention big old Citroens.Really dissapointing.
LordBogus@reddit
Any citroen with the hydropneumatic suspension
phate_exe@reddit
Aside from 20+ year old luxury flagships that are one repair away from being mechanically totaled - a used and heavily-depreciated 2019-2020ish Audi Etron SUV is probably the quietest, most comfortable thing you can get into for under $30k right now.
drtyyugo@reddit
I once took a 5hr ride in a 2nd gen Escalade and man that car was comfortable af
Raccoon637@reddit
W124
daffyflyer@reddit
The Toyota Century has gotta be up there in my personal "most comfortable things I've been in" at least, and surely would rate pretty high on the most comfortable of all time scale.
Better_Chard4806@reddit
Toyota Century? Isn’t that a Buick?
daffyflyer@reddit
Nah, this thing - Toyota Century - Wikipedia
A weird retro ultra luxury limo thing with (at least in one I was in) Toyota's only V12
Super quiet and comfy, and has those cool super nice fabric seats they like in Japan.
Delicious_Oil9902@reddit
That’s wool - they use it in a few other cars too.
Better_Chard4806@reddit
Thank you I’ve never seen or heard of them before. Why all the down votes for asking a simple question.
SlyClydesdale@reddit
Since 1967, Toyota has sold a line of flagship luxury sedans in Japan under the Century name.
RaveyWavey@reddit
Rolls Royce Phantom
CLS4L@reddit
88 towncar
SentientSquid23@reddit
Any of the Hydropneumatic Citroens.
Mythrilfan@reddit
Either the C6 I drove in was broken or it's not as comfy as it should be. Softer than average suspension than average kinda offset by the stiff seats.
OmegaPrecept@reddit
Lincoln town car from the early to mid 2000's. No other vehicle even comes close.
jwclar009@reddit
My 2017 Genesis G80 has been complimented multiple times for having the most comfortable seats they've ever sat in.
Driving long distances is a breeze, and actually, I look forward to them.
PigDiesel@reddit
1976 Cadillac El Dorado. Drive with one finger whilst floating on a cloud in the most comfortable couch you can think of. I mean if you don’t mind consuming more fuel than a jet fighter and the only crumple zone is your face.
biggregw@reddit
Early 90s Chevrolet Caprice Classics with Velour seats, and 6 full seats.
My 06 Dodge Charger R/T full load with leather and a Hemi is pretty nice and comfortable as well.
Being 6’3” or 190cm tall and 235lbs or 105kg these full size cars suit well
PegLegRacing@reddit
Newest generation Rolls Royce Phantom or one of their other models.
mefall99@reddit
2003 model style buick park avenue
Tronkfool@reddit
My polo. I owe anything on it, so that is high level comfort.
Can_emale@reddit
Most comfy was an old 1978 Cordoba. Float on a cloud ride with handling like a drunken overweight sow. 360ci with a 3sp auto. Thing weighed well over 4K lbs and felt every bit of it but if you were doing a cannonball it be the one you wanted.
ebjazzz@reddit
My first car was a bright yellow 1970 Mercury Grand Marquis. The car was 18 feet long from bumper to bumper, had a suspension that felt like I was floating on air, a 429 big block engine that sucked petrol like it was dying of thirst, and a super soft full bench front seat that was perfect for having my girlfriend sit right next to me while driving.
The most comfortable ride ever.
I do miss the Banana Boat.
AsphaltGypsy89@reddit
My '95 Honda Del Sol and my '98 Honda Crv.
ShocK13@reddit
Probably that Rolls they built and it was so quiet people were vomiting haha. They literally had to make it louder inside.
carguy82j@reddit
Lexus LS
blacksystembbq@reddit
LS430 was smoother and quieter than the newer LS460. One of the few times where quality went down with a later version
carguy82j@reddit
I almost bought an older LS430, but the wife said it was too big for her to drive. That car was so comfortable. I work on European cars for a living and it was one of the most comfortable cars i have ever been in.
geoff1036@reddit
One vote for the Volvo XC90 Excellence. One of the only non-limo vehicles that you can fully stretch out in, with a large dual rear seat screen setup and champagne flutes/refrigerator. it's also way shy of RR or Bentley prices.
ilikeCRUNCHYturtles@reddit
Phantom or Maybach
clutchthepearls@reddit
I really liked my 1998 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi for comfort.
The seats had three different lumbar adjustments as well as side bolster adjustments.
16 inch wheels with a lot of sidewall on a large barge with air shocks in the rear.
mcrissjr@reddit
90s Bonneville super underrated here. My 95 remains the best seats I've ever sat in.
Rude-Manufacturer-86@reddit
Volvo.
jgulliver75@reddit
Had a drive in a Bentley Arnage once. Heaps of torque but you hardly noticed it. It was like driving your living room around.
MichiganKarter@reddit
The Citroen DS and CX with their near zero spring rate hydropneumatic suspension had the best rough road ride ever.
idubbkny@reddit
saabs had great ergonomics
porcelainvacation@reddit
Volvo too
kevan0317@reddit
https://jalopnik.com/these-are-the-most-comfortable-cars-ever-built-1851590758
Wolvesinman@reddit
I am hugely biased to Holden. But, sitting in a Senator with them perfectly shaped cushy leather seats and torquing away from a stop start sublime. The mild rumble getting you there is nice as well.
Schiissdraeck@reddit
Owned a few Renaults from the 90s like a R25 and Safrane. Both amazingly comfortable. Today nothing feels like this anymore. But we can drive the Nurburgring in less than 10 minutes. Woooh...
mwoehrle3@reddit
My wife had a ‘17 Chrysler 300C for a couple years. The ride was phenomenal, seats were comfortable, heated and cooled. The ergonomics were pretty good. Leg room was insane. With the 3.6 the car got 30-32 mpg on the highway. I miss that car.
DG04511@reddit
My aunt had a 1988 Cadillac Sedan DeVille that I remember felt like driving on my family room sofa.
Blaizefed@reddit
Late 90’s Cadillacs and Lincoln’s were about peak “comfy” cars. As in TOTALLY insulated from the road. An argument could be made that Mercedes and rolls were pretty close at around the same time, but even they were a bit more stiffly sprung than the Americans because European roads have bends in them.
Since then all the brands have started chasing Nurburgring lap times, and everything now has low profile tires, so even a Rolls Royce today has a sporting edge. And caddy and the Germans are all chasing what BMW started with the fast sedans.
But for peak luxo barge, it’s hard to beat the Americans just before the turn of the century.
JudgmentDisastrous75@reddit
Porsche Cayenne, Volvo, and Citroen.
V4refugee@reddit
To suggest something unique and out of the box, I would say the Lexus LM.
KevinByMail@reddit
The real answer to this is probably some sort of rolls Royce that is basically unobtainium for normal people. Considering during pro-type testing they made a car so quiet and isolated it caused people to become disoriented and nauseous. I’d say they pushed the envelope past the limit of comfort so far, they actually had to back it down a bit.
nutsboltsandscrews@reddit
Citroen DS, or Citroen SM.
gimpy454@reddit
For a while I had a 1986 ford F150 with captain chairs that basically felt like I was sitting in a La-Z-Boy. Now that I am older I would probably want some actual support in the seat but at the time they were amazing to the point that my wife still brings it up as the gold standard when car shopping.