Had mine for 25 years, done nothing but abuse it, left it to rust for days, then relutantly scrub the rust out, other than that it was wash it and dump it on a rack to dry.

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turbospeedsc@reddit

This is the way i use mine, no problems at all.

The fancy non stick space age one set i got like 3 years ago looks like crap.

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darcat01@reddit

Thanks good to know! Will look into this

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the_instantgator@reddit

What commitment? I've never done anything but wash mine and rub some oil on it.

Pretty good trade-off, IMO

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darcat01@reddit

Don’t you have to wash them like right after you use them, like won’t they rust if you leave them overnight unwashed and oiled, and don’t you have to coat them with oil every time you wash them?

I do like cast iron, they disperse the heat evenly and thoroughly, hold heat well for oven cooking. A really good choice!

My trade off is I have to be careful not to break them.

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turbospeedsc@reddit

I use mine like a regular, wash it after i use it, rub oil on it like once a year.

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jadelink88@reddit

They will rust, so its more work. I've let mine rust many a time. You then have to give a it a brief scrub with wire wool, and oil it. I tend to only oil it when it's looking particularly rusty.

Stored food in it in the fridge for 2-3 days regularly. 25 years later the bottom is pitted, which means it does cook a bit unevenly on the new conducting stovetop, but is otherwise fine.

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Credit where credit is due, non-stick forever treated pans rarely last more than a couple of years, I like glass/ceramic however they do crack and break eventually. 25 years plus abuse and all you have is pitting… like wow!

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the_instantgator@reddit

I've forgotten it in the oven for a couple of days because I pass out after dinner sometimes. So I let it soak for 5 minutes and hit it with a Scrub Daddy or something, and it's good. Then, I just wipe excess water off and wipe some oil on it. It takes like 3 minutes if I'm moving slow.

And if it does ever rust, you can just strip and season, and you have a brand new pan. As long as you don't break it, they're pretty resilient.

I'm not an expert or anything, but I haven't had any bad experiences since I made the switch. They also have enameled cast iron which I've heard great things about but haven't really gotten into yet.

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theskyfoogle18@reddit

I thought that said CASTRATION. I was thinking to myself “I know it went over his head but that’s a bit harsh”.

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the_instantgator@reddit

LMAO damn now I have to see if that's a thing

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Parking_Sky9709@reddit

Can it be removed by distillation?

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JungleApex@reddit

🎶PFAs are stored in the balls, in the balls🎶

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Z3r0sama2017@reddit

I think you mean rainwater is in all the PFAs ohohohoho

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Tall-Fail-9993@reddit

Ayo gottem

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Sufficient_Muscle670@reddit

Yeah, I remember hearing about acid rain as a kid. Every once in awhile I used to wonder what supposedly stopped that from being an issue.

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Pyrrolic_Victory@reddit

Always be suspect of PFBA measurements, they are susceptible to false positives even by good modern instrument practices. Not saying the rest isn’t concerning but just a point of order

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Logical-Race8871@reddit

Dude, I love that we have just nuked the earth. I love that it wasn't radiation, but like, non-stick pans. That rules.

There's nothing in the annals of cosmic horror or dark comedy that comes close to causing planetary ecocide with cooking utensils. You could not write that shit.

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Logical-Race8871@reddit

"The inhabitants of planet Terra discovered that putting the black goo on cooking utensils prevented eggs from sticking rather annoyingly to the pan, a phenomenon regarded galaxy-wide as one of the top 5 worst parts of the morning, along with the Roostersaur stampedes of Praxon-3 and stubbing your toe on the nuclear reactor getting out of bed.

Unbeknownst to the very knownst people of Terra, was that the black goo they had discovered causes most animals and creatures of the world to explode in a fleshy mist when consumed in granular form. What remains of Terra now hosts one of the finest tumor mines in the local quadrant. (Visitors are recommended to bring their own bib, as the commemorative ones do incur an additional surcharge).

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bramblez@reddit

In the end, the problem of eggs sticking to pans was solved completely.

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bramblez@reddit

A thousand years hence, the last human lumbered across the scorched wastelands of Greenland. Though the choking yellow atmosphere, he happened upon the nest of the last chicken, who last labor was to produce the last egg that would ever be. As the fortunate wanderer lit a pile of plastic to cook this last feast, a curious thought occurred as the non stick was retrieved from a tattered backpack: “Hard boiled sounds delightful!”

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Logical-Race8871@reddit

Somewhere, in a distant asymptote of our corporeal celestial plane, the sleepy-eyed father of a small family of sentient sarcomas makes the perfect omelette every morning. All thanks to our planet's sole surviving patent.

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Nadie_AZ@reddit

Maybe we just make a hyperspace bypass through Terra.

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AcadianViking@reddit

Douglas Adams would be proud. This was beautifully written in his style. Perfectly matches the cadence that his storytelling has.

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MrNokill@reddit

The path to not using black goo would have meant a $0,0001 increase in production cost with added risk of more durable pans.

It really was a no-brainer for corporate.

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irover@reddit

Dow/DuPont/3M (et al.) =/=- We. Do not be deceived and/or propagandized by the name of America's foremost stock exchange. To paraphrase XRA,
*♪The Dow Jones Industrial Average is a myth, made up by rich people who don't want to work!"

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Logical-Race8871@reddit

I'm pretty sure DuPont was able to sell Teflon because people bought it. By the tens of millions.

The trust we have put in industrial novelty is part of the problem. It's not like there weren't pots and pans before Teflon. We just went "Ooh a new convenience" and entrusted the power structures to keep us safe.

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derpmeow@reddit

3M/DuPont also deliberately suppressed reports FROM WITHIN their own company on the health risks of PFAS. If people knew, there wouldn't be as widespread support for Teflon. So i absolutely fucking blame 3M/DuPont.

https://www.propublica.org/article/3m-forever-chemicals-pfas-pfos-inside-story

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Nadie_AZ@reddit

"For decades, Biden has had deep ties with and admiration for DuPont, the largest employer and philanthropist in his home state of Delaware."

https://blogs.law.ox.ac.uk/business-law-blog/blog/2020/12/president-elect-joe-biden-and-real-lessons-dupont

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Z3r0sama2017@reddit

Let's be honest, the health impacts from non-stick pans is a price lots of folks were probably willing to pay for the convenience of eggs and crap not burning in.

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derpmeow@reddit

If there were any folks who would have chosen otherwise had they known better, then 3M and DuPont still have blood on their hands.

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irover@reddit

THANK YOU. For fuck's sake. /u/Logical-Race8871 swear to speak (hereafter) in good faith or eat doo-doo.

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irover@reddit

oh my GOD shut UP

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CheerleaderOnDrugs@reddit

Found the Dupont heir!

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irover@reddit

wrong comment level, friendo. Look elsewhere in this thread for the not-so-subtle apologists, the blame-shifters, the sycophantish pro-corporate sophists, the rhetorically-manipulative dastards who so effortlessly sow sentiment (or astroturf -- perhaps another gift from 3M?) amongst those who might otherwise hold a sympathetic view to, you know, longevity, blame being placed where blame is due, respect for the basal principles of justice-if-not-merely-the-legal-system, etc. as for me, i ain't the heir to SHIT, barring a small plot of plastic-laden land, and that's God's honest truth. One day I'll make a quick reference a la occam's razor for determining which parties are least/most likely, via game theory and raw common-sense incentive structures, to be behaving deceitfully/in good faith. it ain't me in any case; too chaotic, inconsistent, really should speak for itself (until the LLMs advance another year or two), y'know?

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Logical-Race8871@reddit

You buy it you break it

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thelingeringlead@reddit

We've been doing just that for centuries. Every tiny advancement in convenience is broadly adopted long before anyone knows how bad it might be and then we regret it later.

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The_Weekend_Baker@reddit

And even when we do know something is harmful, we keep buying it if we enjoy the product. Most people are now aware of plastic pollution and that the recycling claims have largely been bogus, and what are people still doing? Buying hundreds of billions of plastic bottles filled with sugary drinks, that also incidentally contribute heavily to the obesity epidemic.

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CheerleaderOnDrugs@reddit

Buying hundreds of billions of plastic bottles filled with sugary drinks

And plastic bottles filled with WATER.

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irover@reddit

v. supra

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dumnezero@reddit

Bill Hicks on marketing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0

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Pickledsoul@reddit

I'm pretty sure DuPont was able to sell Teflon because people bought it. By the tens of millions.

The same could be said of Radithor. We should have known better by now.

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AnotherYadaYada@reddit

Jeeeesus. Never heard of that, just looked it up.

One rich guy was buried in a lead lined coffin. F’ me!

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canibal_cabin@reddit

But radithor killed rich people, it was ridiculously expensive, so that checks.

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mr_trashcan@reddit

I remember my in-laws wondering why I had cast iron when teflon was so much better (in their eyes). I asked what happens when the coating gets scratched. I'm paraphrasing, but it was along the lines of "throw it away and get a new one." The thing is, most people aren't so ready to throw away a new-ish pan with just one scratch. They'll use it until it is no longer non-stick. In the meantime, god knows what you've been consuming. But yeah, there was a generation or two that blindly embraced every new convenience, as if corporations were acting in good faith.

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A_Bridgeburner@reddit

Much of the PFAS in our water supply comes from random other sources like outdated fire fighting foam.. but I hear what you’re saying and I appreciate the irony in us all being killed by our supposedly innocuous quality of life inventions.

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gardening_gamer@reddit

I was thinking whether anyone has attempted to quantify what proportion of these PFAs are coming from fire fighting foams, and specifically those used at airports, given some of the highest recorded levels surround airports.

I would be all in favour of slapping such an astronomically high surcharge on flying as to make it unaffordable for everyone, and attribute it to "long-term clean up of airport wastes".

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A_Bridgeburner@reddit

My city is going through this right now.. the airport is at the top of the hill and our drinking water comes from a river that runs through it..

https://www.tvo.org/article/hundreds-attend-north-bay-info-session-hosted-by-the-dnd-and-the-city-on-forever-chemicals

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hobofats@reddit

it really is ironic that even the most dystopian science fiction out there failed to capture just how stupid the cause of our own doom would be.

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gaybigfoott@reddit

We use some cheap ass non stick pans at my work.. dumb employee use stainless steel pads on them cause “it gets the cheese off faster”. (It don’t get it off faster) it now I have these nasty pans cycling through orders with zero non stick stuff on it anymore. It makes me sick to think how many people are unknowingly eating food from these nasty hazard pans… all so my company can gain more profit… were absolutely fucked in every way imaginable.

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smackson@reddit

I still use non stick at home. But NOBODY can touch my frying pan. Can't trust anyone not to go at it with a metal fork, unfortunately.

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ContessaChaos@reddit

I live with my grandmother and aunt. I recently went and bought new skillets and got all my glassware out of storage. They don't even look at my pans. Came home a while back, and Mammaw was scrubbing the shit out of the used to be teflon pan with a metal spatula. I think they are trying to kill me. LOL.

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SaltSurprise729@reddit

Thank you for providing me this perspective. I needed to read this.

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Logical-Race8871@reddit

Honestly I'm finding therapeutic value in absurdism and looking at it all from a perspective of cosmic hilarity.

Once you've cracked open the lid of Pandoras box and found it's been empty the whole time, it's really funny.

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Thor4269@reddit

Same vibe as causing the downfall of a planet by sending all of their telephone sanitizers into space

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AcadianViking@reddit

Acid Rain 2.0 just dropped.

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dakinekine@reddit

Well the military base near me spilled 800 gallons of pfas which is apparently used to fight jet fuel fires. No big deal.

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horsewithnonamehu@reddit

Look at the bright side, your internal organs won't catch jet fuel fires any time soon.

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Randyguyishere@reddit

Just Miami? Seems odd to assume it wouldn’t be everywhere

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CertifiedBiogirl@reddit

They probably only tested Miami for now

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RunAwayThoughtTrains@reddit

Can’t wait to see what stachybotrys and aspergillus do when they team up with PFAS.

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Best_Indication_7741@reddit

I’d watch that movie

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Royal_Ordinary6369@reddit

… And it used to rain MEN in Miami…

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maple_taco@reddit

So all because of people being too lazy to care for cast iron?

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saucity@reddit

FUCK DuPont

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unicornh_1@reddit

where are these rainwater samples collected? on land or in the air?

i want to see the difference in reading in material found in both sets..

is it even possible?

logic is if rain causes pollution to go down then rainwater in flight absorbing pfas present in air... might cause higher reading..

did researchers test for it?

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Syonoq@reddit

Florida should outlaw PFAS being mentioned in the media. Problem solved!

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Call_It_@reddit

This content is precisely what is lacking in this community. We have many concerning environmental issues other than just ‘climate change’.

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hobofats@reddit

global erosion of topsoil is another big one that isn't discussed very often.

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NSFW_hunter6969@reddit

At this point you could flip over any rock and find an existential crisis underneath.

Biodiversity collapse, global war leading to a nuclear apocalypse, methane bombs, AI takeover, acidification of the ocean reducing our breathable air. Fuck even just social norms, people are literally just going insane more and more. Near economic depression conditions for some people. In some countries, governments have just collapsed all together. Definitely not just climate change

We are riding a runaway train, and how soon you get to the tight corner that will yeet you into oblivion depends on which train car you're in (country). Ultimately, we are all going over the edge together though.

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Rising_Thunderbirds@reddit

All those factors, I wonder what will be the figurative straw that breaks humanity's back?

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Glodraph@reddit

Food scarcity imo or the increasingly lack of reparations after major disasters.

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dumnezero@reddit

lack of potable water

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NSFW_hunter6969@reddit

If you're expecting some disaster movie type scenario, that may happen depending on where you live. Pretty sure the people chilling in the mall when the flood hit in Spain Valencia, probably felt like the world was ending as they were ripped through the mall by sudden flood waters.

However for most of us, death by a thousand cuts. Too much micro plastics, so early heart attack. Maybe too many PFAs, so you win some cancer. How we die will vary a lot, but the result will all be the same.

Anyway, crew motorfest new island launches Nov 6. So I'm just gonna do that. Also Zero Dawn remaster is great 😃

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Best_Indication_7741@reddit

…”and the band played on…”

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Call_It_@reddit

Lol I’m already beyond existential crisis. Oh well…I’m not inviting any nonexistent souls into this insanity. If it collapses while I’m around, at least it will be entertaining.

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Myth_of_Progress@reddit

If any particular topic strikes your fancy, you can always share an article or make a thread about the subject.

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funtrial@reddit

We need a channel called MotherEarthTV which documents and shares information like this by and for the world

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Millennial_on_laptop@reddit

Great, now it's raining poison.

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Ok-Nature-538@reddit

The movie Dark Waters covers the real story on Dupont and the Ohio lawyer that took them on.

If you want another nugget of information that you won’t want to know. Research Tyrone Hayes and atrazine.

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Overthemoon64@reddit

This might be confirmation bias, but I feel like every single child under 5 im tangentially related to has either autism, weird food allergies, or the rarest genetic disorder. It cant be good to be living around all these chemicals

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BTRCguy@reddit

This is the proposed EPA guide for such chemicals in drinking water:

If the conversion guide here: https://www.o.vg/unit/mass-concentration/nanogram-liter-to-part-trillion.php is correct, then you can put in 1,2,3, or 4 nanograms per liter and see what the result is (more instructive for you to do it yourself).

Then ask yourself how likely it is that enforceable level is ever going to be enforced, given the likely cost of doing so.

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switchsk8r@reddit

well. that fucking sucks. it's funny cause my professors are claiming that at least we'll have rain water collection, but man we definitely do not have that. We've got nothing! It's all fucked. And not even fucked as in we're all gonna die right now, but we're slowly going to rot and melt away cause our world which we made treacherous and poisonous.

for one fucking second we have medical advancement and food security and the next second it's infinite pollution and wet bulb deaths.

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auhnold@reddit

“for one fucking second we have medical advancement and food security and the next second it’s infinite pollution and wet bulb deaths”

-ain’t that the sad fucking truth. I never thought the 1980’s & 90’s would look so good from here.

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CollapseBy2022@reddit

And we still managed to be unhappy.

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demiourgos0@reddit

In the immortal words of Snake Plissken, "Welcome to the human race."

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MothafuckinPlacentas@reddit

In the words of Tracy Jordan, "I hate to say I told you so, so...welcome to Miami"

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2025Champions@reddit

I wonder how much this (and the microplastics etc) contributes to me chronically feeling like shit

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New-Ad-5003@reddit

Well, this, and possibly some fun run-on effects of covid too. I see a LOT of people who don’t know how the dots connect back to that “minor cold”

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Glodraph@reddit

Yeah a lot of people got it and then "I have some issues with memory lately" well they must have forgot they had covid too. In this I include myself. Been super careful but got it once, lasted 3 days of brain fog. Attention span and memory never been exactly the same after that, even if they are still great.

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2025Champions@reddit

It’s crossed my mind more than once. I never had a positive test, or even symptoms, but I wonder if I had an asymptomatic case. I have developed some issues that are consistent with long covid.

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eric_ts@reddit

I am thinking not zero percent.

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dumnezero@reddit

So... the PFAS cycle.

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AbominableGoMan@reddit

Yo I heard the rainstorms ain't nothing to mess with... Welcome to Miami

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NyriasNeo@reddit

It is not only Miami.

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thelingererer@reddit

It's what plants crave!

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eric_ts@reddit

Maybe if this started sterilizing people it would get the religious right on board with environmental protection.... Hahahaha. Not a chance. The one thing the religious right is willing to sacrifice a fetus for is investors' ROI.

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Idle_Redditing@reddit

Is it raining forever chemicals everywhere else too?

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LeeKapusi@reddit

Glad we aren't doing anything to stop it

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AverageAmerican1311@reddit

" Glad we aren't doing anything to stop it." Well, be fair, we are absorbing a fair amount of those forever chemicals into our bodies. We are literally giving our lives for the profits of Big Chemical.

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StatementBot@reddit

The following submission statement was provided by /u/Portalrules123:

SS: Related to collapse as this study provides further evidence that PFAS or ‘forever chemicals’ are pretty much everywhere thanks to our rampant use of them, including hitching a ride along the water cycle to rain down in places such as Miami. Powerful carbon-fluorine bonds mean that these toxins will take a long time to break down, giving them plenty of time to accumulate in the environment and in organisms. We really did take a perfectly pristine planet and rapidly filled it up with toxic chemical substances.

Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1gjt2jn/rainwater_samples_reveal_it_is_literally_raining/lvfr444/

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Portalrules123@reddit (OP)

SS: Related to collapse as this study provides further evidence that PFAS or ‘forever chemicals’ are pretty much everywhere thanks to our rampant use of them, including hitching a ride along the water cycle to rain down in places such as Miami. Powerful carbon-fluorine bonds mean that these toxins will take a long time to break down, giving them plenty of time to accumulate in the environment and in organisms. We really did take a perfectly pristine planet and rapidly filled it up with toxic chemical substances.