Exynos 2500: Benchmark confirms 10-core CPU and respectable performance gains for Xclipse 950 GPU
Posted by TwelveSilverSwords@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 30 comments
lutel@reddit
Samsung shitting on EU customers confirmed
FinBenton@reddit
I sold my s24+ to get ultra with snapdragon, just too many issues with exynos.
P26601@reddit
Not a single issue on my S24+ (like, literally) I'm curious what was wrong with yours
FinBenton@reddit
4G/5G radio lost connection all the time when watching live streams and I had cycle the phone in airplane mode to reset it. I RMAd it, got a new one and it had same issue. S24 ultra has been really good though.
From-UoM@reddit
If the latest rumors are true the S25 series will be snapdragon only like the S23.
Flip7 and Fold7 may get Exynos though.
justredd-it@reddit
There were rumors around 8 months back that 8 Gen 4 "for Galaxy" will be manufactured on samsung's Fab, So it maybe the case of a deal between both qualcomm and Samsung that they use S25 series will be powered by there chips
redMahura@reddit
That wouldn't make sense since the reason Smasung is allegedly going all Qualcom is because of low yields at their foundary department for the SF3 node. Also, 8 gen 4 is confirmed to be TSMC
Warm-Cartographer@reddit
8 gen 5 not gen 4
justredd-it@reddit
This is the rumour I am talking about
Warm-Cartographer@reddit
From the Article
According to @Tech_Reve, Qualcomm will once again rely solely on TSMC for making the 3nm-based Snapdragon 8 Gen 4 chipset next year. Reportedly, the chip designer has decided to bet on TSMC once again because it's planning to use custom Oryon CPU cores and doesn't want to compromise power and efficiency with the new set of cores. You could say that Qualcomm just isn't convinced with Samsung's yields or performance.
Seems like 8 gen 4 rumor were more of speculation on Gsmarena side than leak
TwelveSilverSwords@reddit (OP)
8 Gen 4 is all TSMC N3E.
8 Gen 5 is planned be dual sourced between TSMC N3P and Samsung SF2. (But if SF2 yields are bad, it might be TSMC N3P only).
From-UoM@reddit
i was talking about the one 8 days ago here -
https://9to5google.com/2024/09/02/samsung-galaxy-s25-snapdragon-report/
DerpSenpai@reddit
Flip7 and Fold7 may get Exynos worldwide and not just Europe just like the Samsung S24FE
uKnowIsOver@reddit
The device that's getting tested is the S25
From-UoM@reddit
It doesn't say a device. Also testing and actually releasing are two different things
uKnowIsOver@reddit
ERD platforms are always for Galaxy devices.
thehighshibe@reddit
This looks like good news though!
TwelveSilverSwords@reddit (OP)
https://x.com/negativeonehero/status/1833140542219399478
This person claims that Exynos 2500 will have a 16 CU RDNA3.5-based GPU. Essentially the Radeon 890M slapped into a phone SoC!
This is not surprising, and I expected this. FYI, the Exynos 2400 has a 12 CU RDNA3-based GPU, which meant it was like a Radeon 780M.
DerpSenpai@reddit
Reminder that clocks are lower but yes, Samsung and every other GPU maker for phones makes very wide GPUs but lower clocks because it's more power efficient
Ghostsonplanets@reddit
To be honest, such GPU configuration isn't really that wide when compared to others SoCs and Switch 2.
TwelveSilverSwords@reddit (OP)
What's Switch 2 SoC configuration?
Ghostsonplanets@reddit
12 SMs - 1536 ALUs + 12 RT Cores + 48 Tensor Cores
Granted, I was more comparing Exynos 2500 1024 ALU to Snapdragon 8G3 1792 ALUs.
bryf50@reddit
Still not convinced the rumors really add up on this. Sounds too expensive for a Switch successor.
Ghostsonplanets@reddit
And what does the price of the Tegra X1 back then matter? You're aware that Nintendo chose the Tegra X1 before it was even unveiled and sold to the public, right?
Regardless, T239 is the SoC chosen by Nintendo and we already saw it on shipment data from Nintendo. It's extremely unlikely it saw any changes. Especially as it was taped-out in late 2022.
bryf50@reddit
Huh? The price matters because that's how much it costs...
History shows, pre-release, sure thing 100% console spec rumors are like 10% reliable at best in predicting the actual launch specs.
Ghostsonplanets@reddit
What I'm saying is that Nintendo paid full price for the Tegra X1. Not some discounted price like some believe.
And I will disagree on the latter. Both PS5 and Xbox Series configuration were leaked on an AMD ransomware not dissimilar to what Nvidia suffered. And these were spot on to final PS5 and XSeries hardware. So I see no reason to think otherwise on Nvidia ransom data.
dj_antares@reddit
Well, if you count it that way, 16 RDNA3.5 CU would be 2048 ALUs.
Ghostsonplanets@reddit
Unlike RDNA 3, which is a compiler opportunistic for some limited subset of instructions, Ampere FP32 units are physically there.
TwelveSilverSwords@reddit (OP)
Adreno seems to be basically ALU spam. It's missing many Architectural features found in Nvidia/AMD and even Apple's GPU architectures. Will be interesting to see how Adreno 8 series changes this.
Elegant_Hearing3003@reddit
Exynos 2500 has an RDNA4 based (only mobile one to exist) Samsung custom GPU, cool to see the first benchmarks.
I guess they're still building the chip just to get pricing leverage over Qualcomm though, maybe the modem still sucks.